Fighting terminal cancer vs. not fighting it

Fighting it doesn't always mean a slow death. So tines folks recover.

You choose not to fight it - live to fullest while you can . When it gets too bad - turn car on in garage and go to sleep.
 
This is my life
I’ve been fighting cancer for 11 years now

So long that I’m pretty much out of treatment options
I’ve had every type of cancer treatment pretty much
The strongest chemos, surgeries, whole body radiation, stem cell transplant, immunotherapies, etc
I was diagnosed with advanced stage 4 blood cancer in my early 30’s

Now I just get low dose chemo to try and keep the cancer down, then take breaks till it’s spread a lot again
I’m about to start back up again, but only a few more chemos I can try cuz you can’t be on them forever, usually only a set time frame and dosage
I’ve made it into remission a few times, but it just comes back within a few months
I haven’t paid a dime for any treatment, I just get what treatments I can get covered

My doctor says most people in my position usually tap out and stop treatment and just ride it out
It’s a balancing act, but you have to keep fighting
I probably only have a few years left realistically if everything goes well
I’ll fight till I’m dead, I’m not going out the coward way
I won’t lie it’s hard as hell sometimes and I’ve wished I was dead more than I can remember lol

My life has been pretty lame the last decade, i don’t do much at all
Mostly just go for walks when feeling up to it and watching sports
And shitpost on here
Less and less friends come by every year, everyone is busy with life
I have no kids or wife so it’s not too bad that way if I pass

🖕😤🖕FUCKCANCER🖕😤🖕

Man, I was perfectly content going the whole day without feeling anything for a random stranger... ffs, right in the feels. Sorry bro, and I applaud your bravery.

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Treatable cancer with a decent prognosis? I'lll take the chemo. Terminal, as in there's no going back? Fuck that. I'm going out on my own terms, and there's a strong likelihood I wouldn't feel too bad about taking out other very bad people first too.

As a husband, father, and grandfather... I'm torn. It's been fun, and I'm sure there would still be reasons to smile going forward, but...

Teach my family to never back down and always fight? You mean, teach them a lesson they've already learned from me, and make them suffer while I suffer... for days/months/years?

My family knows I'm a fighter. Terminal cancer is a fight the whole family goes through, it's just a question of how many rounds before the inevitable finish and how much damage we're all taking along the way. My family members are all here on borrowed time too. Me sticking around longer waiting to die also makes them suffer longer, and their days and months and years shouldn't be spent focused on me. My job was to teach them right from wrong and keep them alive long enough for them to (hopefully) do the same for their kids, and so on.

Rinse and repeat, in order to keep humanity churning along until we all figure out how to wipe ourselves out, or some alien InterstellarSherbros get tired of fucking with us and do it first. A global-kililng asteroid is nothing more than a freak-accident cosmic fuck you.

It's terminal cancer, remember? I don't want to be the reason why my kids or grandkids have to have a sad day, when they could be doing something better. In this case, the best thing I can do for them is teach them when it's not about fighting, it's about preparing. If I can minimize how long they will inevitably suffer with my passing, isn't that the right thing to do?

What's the alternative? Hope and pray there is the one in billion chance during my chemo process they happen to find some one-shot miracle cure overnight, and that I am worthy or notable enough to deserve it? Lmfao. They are making leaps and bounds as far as cancer treatment goes, but it's extremely unlikely they find a cure in my lifetime. Maybe in my kids'/grandkids', but not mine.
 
I think it worth keeping in mind that quantity can be looked at differently. Is 90 days of quality life in 3 months more time than say 70 days spread over a year?

As someone who's gone through this with a person I cared about personally speaking compressing everything isn't the same as having that time spread out over a longer duration. I would've rather been able to be with them over a longer period of time as opposed to more actual time together over a shorter period.

What the actual trade off point is I wouldn't know though.
 
I'd ask Dr. Max Gerson...
 
Fam no lie mi feel yuh pon dis one real talk some day mi deh yah like "yo if mi find oot mi done mi jus smoke grabba an’ try di alternative route maybe di ting work real vibez drago.gif" but den odda day mi picture Eternal Champion Donald Trump wid him ear buss open cheerin’ mi on Saiyan #Fight 💥✊Den mi seh iight bet mi ready fi war broski #LetsGoPBPCrew but then di doctor drop in an’ seh “Nah fam yuh blood work crisp see yuh next month” an mi low key feel sad like mi nuh have nuttn fi push toward 🚫🤼‍♀️

Real ting life a pure rollercoaster one minute up next minute yuh feel di dip down bad ahlie fam 😂🎢
 
Hormone theraphy is a commonly suggested start for those who don't want chemo but a less invasive treatment to prolong life
 
Every case is different. A very good friend of mine declined treatment when he learned he had terminal cancer. The last couple weeks were awful. Treatment likely wouldn’t have made things better, but don’t think foregoing treatment means you just pass calmly in your sleep one night. Its still bad.

That’s when you go to Mexico and get Nembutal
 
I just cleared the six year cancer free mile marker, I can’t put in to words how dark of a time it was to be diagnosed. Luckily the initial diagnosis was off enough that it wasn’t terminal.

I did have to endure a whipple surgery though, the most gnatkiest experience I’ve ever been through. It was life changing for the better for a lot of reasons. But it was the thing that brought me to my knees and I gave my life to Jesus in that time, and I haven’t gone back to the old life. Even though I feel great and could easily do so.
 
Every case is different. A very good friend of mine declined treatment when he learned he had terminal cancer. The last couple weeks were awful. Treatment likely wouldn’t have made things better, but don’t think foregoing treatment means you just pass calmly in your sleep one night. Its still bad.
True, toward the end, its bad. But i feel like my step father could have at least enjoyed 4 to 5 months before he died while taking chemo for 6 months. I don;t know why my mom wanted him to suffer, i thought she had high hopes the chemo would help, but what really bothered me was he had no appetite, and he could have got medical THC but she wouldnt let him take it. This woman did every drug in the world back in the 60's.
 
When you have advanced stage cancer, it’s worse than the chemo side effects
And if the chemo works even to kill the cancer a little bit, you will be glad you did it
Trust me on that lol
You are not going to enjoy life at all when it’s that far gone, it’s a lot of pain and I couldn’t even smoke weed cuz my lungs were so bad from tumours in my chest

Every single night I would wake up in cold sweats shivering and having stabbing pains in my abdomen and other areas
Strip your bedding and get new sheets on, then you would just wake up a few hours later to the same thing, drenched and in pain

I felt so much better just after a few cycles of hi dose chemo
Then after the 6 months treatment, it had killed some of the cancer
So I had another treatment, that knocked it down a bit more
Then I had stem cell transplant, which was the hardest and most brutal cancer treatment I ever had
That was the make or break moment, if it worked you could be cured, if it doesn’t, it’s basically over
It didn’t work for me but knocked down the cancer even further
So then I had full body radiation treatment
And that actually killed the rest of the cancer and I was in “remission”
But it just came right back with a few months
So Then more chemo
You kill the cancer in one area and then it pops up somewhere else, like playing Wack-a-mole
Then immunotherapy treatment as soon as it was available in Canada and approved by FDA (or else I would have to pay 10k every infusion)
Then more chemo, but I’ve had all the good chemos, so only options are bad ones that have worse side effects, nerve damage in your hands and feet, etc

I was lucky that my cancer is very treatable, the chemos always seem to knock it down with every new drug we tried
But my time is running out

And I’ve met tons of people on this journey who have been cured by frontline cancer treatments like chemo, 20, 30 years later still cancer free

And I’ve also had many people tell me chemo is just a big conspiracy and to eat dirt and mushrooms and just be healthy cut out all the bad stuff and you will beat it
But I know it doesn’t work like that, it’s not that simple
Being healthy helps, but cancer is a monster, and anything you feed yourself, it feeds it too,
Cancer is just cells that have gone haywire and keep reproducing until tumours form
And after a while it just pisses me off when these goofy motherfuckers try to tell me all this shit they know nothing about or experienced

And that’s the way she goes
Sometimes she goes, sometimes she doesn’t
All you can do is put one foot in front of the other
Keep walking this tightrope of death
We all gotta go sometime or another right

And I just wrote a fucking novel lol
It’s 230am so I’m gonna get some sleep

EARLY DETECTION IS KEY TO BEATING CANCER
SO IF YOUVE BEEN FEELING OFF, TIRED, WEAK, WHATEVER
GO TO THE FUCKING DOCTOR
ITS NOT JUST OLD PEOPLE GET CANCER, 30-40 YEAR OLDS TOO
LAST THING I TNOUGHT WAS WRONG WITH ME WAS CANCER BEFORE I WAS DIAGNOSED
 
Terminal cancer comes in many forms. It really depends on a lot of factors especially the type of cancer as well as it's palliative treatment options. The worse types such as metastatic pancreatic or gastric cancer would not only be a tough fight, but it would also likely be short lived. Whereas there are terminal cancers where people can live a other 5-10 years or more if they are high responders to treatment with tolerable side effects.
 
This is a very individual decision.

Some people may feel it's worth it if there's any chance they could go into remission. Some people do it because while it may not go into remission they might live longer. It really depends on how harsh the chemo/radiation is VS possibility of remission and quality of life.

Chemo/Radiation affects everyone different. Working in the medical field you get people who have relatively mild symptoms from treatment and others legit wish for death due to the symptoms. So Drs. will often encourage trying it to see how well tolerated it is because if you have more mild symptoms it would definitely be worth doing to at least live longer if the quality of life isn't greatly affected.
 
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