Fighters body fat

well, i might think losing fat is important thing in a pro athlete, how is possible they just dont care?

Hunt is a completely different case to Nelson IMO, with Hunt if he got in far better shape he would still be 220 easy - massive legs and very dense bone structure.

I'm guessing the the guy likes his food of course, but 265 / 220 doesn't really matter much at HW, he may gain a little speed / stamina but could lose power and chin and hes almost 40 so why bother?

Roy has more to gain IMO could make 205 and has some interesting weapons there with the major downside running into faster, more skilled guys who seem to be his kryptonite.

He clearly enjoys getting his grub on and knocking out slow moving targets though and I don't blame him.
 
Munoz was severely depressed when the fat picture was taken, so there is a lot of truth to the statement that it was "not his natural state". He probably had a ton of room for improvement in terms of his training, diet, and other behaviors.

I'm sure Nelson has some room for improvement in his self-discipline, but not that much. Also, the current scientific consensus is that if you spend a long time being extremely obese, you can get something called "metabolic syndrome". Basically, you've fucked your body so badly that your hormones no longer function well and your body is racked with inflammation, making it much harder to lose weight than it would be for a normal person. So when a fat person says "it's because my metabolism is slow", there is often a lot of truth to that, however, the reason their metabolism is so slow might be because they were so lazy and self-indulgent in the past.
 
Roy's fat is beneficial for him, it's a shield for body punches and adds a lot of weight when he's on top.
 
I don't know how people can say this. Does anyone know any good heavyweight boxers that are fat?

Fat may be beneficial if you're a powerlifter and you need some extra leverage, but no way in hell is it good for fighters. All it's going to do, is slow you down and drain your cardio. Every extra pound of fat you have, is one more pound of fat you have to push through to land your strike.

If anything, I think weight loss would help Nelson's game tremendously. His strikes would be faster, crisper and he could throw them in better combination. He'd be more mobile, agile and not look so sluggish.

The sport of origin plays a role in the body type these guys have.

Boxers are generally super lean. Even at HW often. Why? Because they have to fight 12-15 rounds. Extra body fat makes that miserable.

However, you do see wrestlers come in fat more often. Why? Because a wrestler doesn't need to compete as long. Grapplers also don't need to be as 'fast', as in they don't need to worry about being fast with their hands or with their footwork in the same manner.

It isn't exactly common, but I mean, look at Rulon Gardner when he won gold.

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Here's Cole Conrad during his NCAA run:

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Sport defines a build more than anything. Nelson was always fat, even as a BJJ competitor. It's the way he is comfortable fighting.
 
Let's be honest: We all have different genetics. Roy's fat absorbs shock. Without his fat excess, Roy risks getting KOd again by Arlovski. Also, fighters usually cut and are ripped from constant exercise. Regardless, runners like Diaz and body types like weight lifters will always look a certain way, unless they work tooth and nail to alter their appearance. Most fighters just train to win or not lose.
 
Well, DC for example was never THAT fat. He has an incredible amount of muscle under that layer of fat. Hes a naturally thick as shit guy. Built like a brick shithouse.

As for Nelson, I think its just a part of his identity. I think he not only embrases being fat, but intentionally eats a lot to try and stay fat. I think he likes being known as that hilariously fat white guy that kicks ass.

and then there are guys like Cain that just have shit genetics. Cain could take a year off to do nothing but lift and eat steroid like candy, and hed still look like sloppy garbage despite being in tremendous shape carsio wise.

This is the most ignorant statement ever. Guys who lose lots of LBS fast, and are pros. they know how to use PED like T3 or T4 or dmp or clenbuterol. so many drugs that people don't have a clue about, and they work. And if Cain just lifted and took steroids for even a short amount of time, he would show it bad genetics or not. Want to know why people use steroids, because they work!!!!!! And most fighters use something to gain an edge for themself. Its the difference between making a little money and making millions.
 
I think some fighters just don't care if they carry a little a fat and look soft. They are more focused on working on their fighting game and technique instead of trying to look ripped.
 
Well for one, they don't even try. But as far as why it was possible for Munoz to do that so fast, he's not naturally a fat guy. His body is used to being in shape as he's been in shape for his entire career. So after he ballooned up for a short period it was easier for him to get back to where he was before before because of muscle memory and his body being used to being in shape.
 
Someone like Munoz had a very clean diet to look like that.

Someone like Cain probably eats what he wants and when he wants. He'd get ripped too if he did the proper things. He doesn't care to get shredded and he's doing a damn good job fighting the way he is now so why bother?

Genetics gets used too much as an excuse, lol. This isn't the fattitude thread, homies.
 
I quit looking for this answer after page 3.

TS, if you're not a troll you're incredibly ignorant about this sport. google "Cormier weight loss Olympics liver". find his comments about Johnson and his weight cut, and cuts he and King Mo used to do. then find his comments about his last HW fight, why he took it, and why it took him a year to get to 205 after the decision was made.

Roy Nelson simply chooses not to. as is his right. for him, the first commenter was correct.

for Cormier, as I said, you're either ignorant or a troll. if you're not a troll, do yourself a favor and take my hints to educate yourself. you have little excuse not, unless you're even lazier than fat athletes (which I have no doubt you are)
 
It's just genetics. It's not like Cain doesn't train hard, probably harder than munoz but would never look like that.

Its more than training, 90% of losing body fat is diet. Heavyweights don't have to cut weight, its why the majority of them are fatter than the rest of the weight classes. There is no incentive for a heavyweight to have a 6 pack.
 
Munoz didn't lose that in a couple of months, it was like over 6. Still, as others have pointed out, they look to be in the shape that best complements their fighting ability, and that varies from person to person.
 
Its more than training, 90% of losing body fat is diet. Heavyweights don't have to cut weight, its why the majority of them are fatter than the rest of the weight classes. There is no incentive for a heavyweight to have a 6 pack.

Diet is most of the battle for weight loss but genetics have to play a factor. Let me give you a bit of my own personal experience on the situation.

I've been lifting for a decade. I've always been an extremely skinny guy, but always had a high body % fat. I have my diet worked out to a T. My brother is a strength coach/specialized sports conditioner and set me on the right track as far as that goes. I go to MMA. I run 7mi a day. Swim 1/2mi+ a day. Lift 3-4X/week. Plyometrics 2X/week. Yoga/hard stretching 1hr/day. When i'm not doing those things i'm drilling head movement drills, footwork drills, bag work, gymnastics with the little sister, free running etc.

I'm at 170 atm and put up fantastic numbers. I'm still nowhere close to abs. 0 abdominal definition. I do everything right as far as diet goes and I put in all the time in the world. It feels pretty much impossible for me to get a low enough body % fat to get abs. Maybe i'm making excuses but I feel there's no real other answer besides genetics. You see guys like Johnny Hendricks come in flabby but you can see a kid off the street in the hood have a perfect 6 pac who drinks everyday and eats pizza w his bros.
 
Well, DC for example was never THAT fat. He has an incredible amount of muscle under that layer of fat. Hes a naturally thick as shit guy. Built like a brick shithouse.

As for Nelson, I think its just a part of his identity. I think he not only embrases being fat, but intentionally eats a lot to try and stay fat. I think he likes being known as that hilariously fat white guy that kicks ass.

and then there are guys like Cain that just have shit genetics. Cain could take a year off to do nothing but lift and eat steroid like candy, and hed still look like sloppy garbage despite being in tremendous shape carsio wise.

bull. shit.
 
People like Cormier, Fedor and to a lesser extent Cain likely function best with a bit of chub on their bodies. They could lose it if they wanted to, but it would be too taxing on their bodies and probably make them weaker. As the old saying goes "if it ain't broken, don't fix it".
Nelson, on the other hand, is too fat, that guy probably doesn't care enough.
 
Anyone can lose a crapload of bodyfat if they severely restrict their carbs and fat intake. Body fat is stored calories.... nothing more. As long as they keep their protein intake high they'll keep most of their muscle mass and use their bodyfat for energy.

The problem is it's difficult to do, and some people find it harder than others. I'm sure Roy has tried restricting his calories, but it probably left him feeling drained and unable to train properly.
Weight is gained and lost depending on calorie consumption, not macronutrients. You can eat 100% protein, if you're consuming more than your body expends you will lose weight. Not to mention, a professional athlete who fights for a living has no business removing carbs and fat from their diet, those are essential to do what they do.
 
Diet is most of the battle for weight loss but genetics have to play a factor. Let me give you a bit of my own personal experience on the situation.

I've been lifting for a decade. I've always been an extremely skinny guy, but always had a high body % fat. I have my diet worked out to a T. My brother is a strength coach/specialized sports conditioner and set me on the right track as far as that goes. I go to MMA. I run 7mi a day. Swim 1/2mi+ a day. Lift 3-4X/week. Plyometrics 2X/week. Yoga/hard stretching 1hr/day. When i'm not doing those things i'm drilling head movement drills, footwork drills, bag work, gymnastics with the little sister, free running etc.

I'm at 170 atm and put up fantastic numbers. I'm still nowhere close to abs. 0 abdominal definition. I do everything right as far as diet goes and I put in all the time in the world. It feels pretty much impossible for me to get a low enough body % fat to get abs. Maybe i'm making excuses but I feel there's no real other answer besides genetics. You see guys like Johnny Hendricks come in flabby but you can see a kid off the street in the hood have a perfect 6 pac who drinks everyday and eats pizza w his bros.

Lolwut? You can't both be skinny AND have a high body fat percentage. Its one or the other. Which one is it?
 
Lolwut? You can't both be skinny AND have a high body fat percentage. Its one or the other. Which one is it?

Never heard of skinny fat? :P It's where you're thin/small bone structured but you have a nice little pudge :D
 
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