Fighters body fat

i'm hoping to see DC lean out a little more, so he can perform better and KTFO jones
 
its just a silly male fantasy that the best fighter will be thick, solid and tight. it comes from watching jacked dudes in cartoons like lion-o and he man, and watching acting movies where bodybuilders put on oil and shoot guns.

fedor was a chubby, anderson silva looks smooth and lanky, roy nelson knocks guys out all the time, tank abbot used to smash guys back in the day.

this guys won worlds strongest man 4 times...

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i guess he'd have won it every single time if he had ripped abs

Maybe if he had lost some fat, he could have been the record holding 5 time champion
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Seriously though I kid. Funny enough he looks chubbier now that he does MMA. He is in his late 30s now though I think
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People who are downplaying the genetics part of this are going about it all wrong. The role of genetics in this is not just metabolism and the presence or absence of disorders. Genetics affects habitual eating patterns, like whether a person is hungry in the morning or whether he has a "sweet tooth" or extreme cravings for sweet foods. Genetics is a factor in diabetes and pre-diabetes. It's a factor in weight distribution, or whether the guy carries fat in his midsection or spread throughout his body. It's a factor in water retention.

Some guys, like Herschel Walker and Adrian Peterson, have admitted they basically have always looked like Adonis no matter how much they work out (or don't work out) and no matter what they eat. That's because they have the genetics. Not just metabolism, but the eating habits that are genetically-informed, that makes it easy to look like that.

People who have those genetics are generally ignorant to other genetics.

Some fatasses are just pathetic face-stuffing losers. But guys like Cain, D.C., and Roy are not in that category.
 
People who are downplaying the genetics part of this are going about it all wrong. The role of genetics in this is not just metabolism and the presence or absence of disorders. Genetics affects habitual eating patterns, like whether a person is hungry in the morning or whether he has a "sweet tooth" or extreme cravings for sweet foods. Genetics is a factor in diabetes and pre-diabetes. It's a factor in weight distribution, or whether the guy carries fat in his midsection or spread throughout his body. It's a factor in water retention.
are generally ignorant to other genetics.

You think your average person doesn't have a sweet tooth or crave fattening foods? Hunger cravings is one thing, but you are the one who has control over what you put into you.
 
You think your average person doesn't have a sweet tooth or crave fattening foods? Hunger cravings is one thing, but you are the one who has control over what you put into you.

Exactly!!! People trying to justify their terrible eating habits withe genetics too.
 
You think your average person doesn't have a sweet tooth or crave fattening foods? Hunger cravings is one thing, but you are the one who has control over what you put into you.

As with all elements of psychology and physiology, they vary by person. As does a person's natural inclination to eat breakfast, eat overnight, etc. For example, I have never in my life had the urge to wake up and eat something in the middle of the night, even if I didn't eat for several hours before falling asleep. For others, it happens every day or several times a week. That's genetics, not simply discipline. If I had that urge, would I have the discipline to resist it? I can say I would and that it would be easy, but I don't know that, do I?

The point is that it's easy to talk about other people being disciplined when it's easy for you to be disciplined. I learned this a long time ago and don't judge people like I did when I was an ignorant 19 year-old. Sure, some people are just disgusting fatasses, but i'm not talking about those obvious cases.
 
As with all elements of psychology and physiology, they vary by person. As does a person's natural inclination to eat breakfast, eat overnight, etc. For example, I have never in my life had the urge to wake up and eat something in the middle of the night, even if I didn't eat for several hours before falling asleep. For others, it happens every day or several times a week. That's genetics, not simply discipline. If I had that urge, would I have the discipline to resist it? I can say I would and that it would be easy, but I don't know that, do I?

The point is that it's easy to talk about other people being disciplined when it's easy for you to be disciplined. I learned this a long time ago and don't judge people like I did when I was an ignorant 19 year-old. Sure, some people are just disgusting fatasses, but i'm not talking about those obvious cases.

You're confusing genetics with habits, which is kind of impressive.
 
As with all elements of psychology and physiology, they vary by person. As does a person's natural inclination to eat breakfast, eat overnight, etc. For example, I have never in my life had the urge to wake up and eat something in the middle of the night, even if I didn't eat for several hours before falling asleep. For others, it happens every day or several times a week. That's genetics, not simply discipline. If I had that urge, would I have the discipline to resist it? I can say I would and that it would be easy, but I don't know that, do I?

The point is that it's easy to talk about other people being disciplined when it's easy for you to be disciplined. I learned this a long time ago and don't judge people like I did when I was an ignorant 19 year-old. Sure, some people are just disgusting fatasses, but i'm not talking about those obvious cases.

This is what I hear from fat people all the time. Quite frankly, it just spits all over my years of working out. I didn't succeed because I made myself miserable losing weight, it was just easy.

Its not exactly judging, its wading through their excuses to break to them truth.
 
You're confusing genetics with habits, which is kind of impressive.

Nah, there are genetic bases to this. If I've never once had the urge to wake up and eat overnight, how could I develop a habit of waking up to eat overnight?
 
This is what I hear from fat people all the time. Quite frankly, it just spits all over my years of working out. I didn't succeed because I made myself miserable losing weight, it was just easy.

Its not exactly judging, its wading through their excuses to break to them truth.

You're mistaking the contrapositive of my statement. The problem is people shitting on someone who looks like Cain or DC and assuming he doesn't work hard enough. Nobody is saying that working out doesn't return visible results.

Imagine what Cain would look like if he didn't work out.
 
Nah, there are genetic bases to this. If I've never once had the urge to wake up and eat overnight, how could I develop a habit of waking up to eat overnight?

There are genetic bases to everything. That's like saying there are letters in all words. Obvious.

Behaviors and habits still heavily determine how things actually go. Have the best genes in the world, if you were raised by a couple of lazy fatasses, you're very likely not going to be an athlete.

This is nature vs nurture. You're basically arguing that only nature matters.
 
There are genetic bases to everything. That's like saying there are letters in all words. Obvious.

Behaviors and habits still heavily determine how things actually go. Have the best genes in the world, if you were raised by a couple of lazy fatasses, you're very likely not going to be an athlete.

This is nature vs nurture. You're basically arguing that only nature matters.

No, I am saying both matter. When I was young and dumb, I thought only nurture mattered.

There's a reason so many Samoans are built the way they are, and so many Kenyans e built the way they are, and it has a lot to do with things out of the individual person's control.
 
You think your average person doesn't have a sweet tooth or crave fattening foods? Hunger cravings is one thing, but you are the one who has control over what you put into you.

When it comes to morbid obesity your right behavior is a huge factor, but when you're comparing a guy who's always around 20lbs overweight to a guy who's not, that's typically just a difference in their genetics.

In fact the behavior that often causes morbid obesity is the chubby guy with the greater food cravings trying to use will power to deny his natural appetite and the body responds by craving even more.

Think about it, when you eat a meal do you:

A) weigh the food or count the calories and stop exactly when you've reached what you're calculating mind has decided is appropriate.

or

B) stop eating when you no longer feel hungry

My guess is that 95% of people fat or thin go with B, the only difference in that equation is the "feel" part of it, which is genetic.
 
This is what I hear from fat people all the time. Quite frankly, it just spits all over my years of working out. I didn't succeed because I made myself miserable losing weight, it was just easy.

Its not exactly judging, its wading through their excuses to break to them truth.

I hear that. I hate it when people say I'm "naturally athletic." Yeah, if working out six times a week, watching what I eat, and losing over sixty pounds in the last four years is natural, you bet I'm naturally athletic.
 
Chill out guys, I'm sure God will appreciate all your hard work.
 
No but by using a little common sense you can. Was Munoz fat before that pic? No. Did he have a long layoff where he let himself go and was probably pounding away at the beer hardcore? Yes. And when he lost a lot of weight, it was after he entered into a long camp. Point was, the weight gain was him going off on a long bender. It wasn't his natural state.

I don't know how it is hard for some people to see that genetics is a real thing that makes some people chubby even when they work hard. I guess you guys believe in creationism too

You sound like a fat guy hiding behind genetics.

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No, I am saying both matter. When I was young and dumb, I thought only nurture mattered.

There's a reason so many Samoans are built the way they are, and so many Kenyans e built the way they are, and it has a lot to do with things out of the individual person's control.

Yeah, it couldn't be their diets, environment, or exercise habits.

Samoans eat a lot and their food is high in fat and cholesterol. They do more strength based exercise. Therefore, theyre fat.

Kenyans eat more carbs and do more endurance sports. More inclined to be thin.

If genetics mattered as much as you claim, then Asians for example would always be short. But Asians can be as much as half a foot taller in America than in Asia. Difference? Different and more plentiful food.
 
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