Fighters at their absolute peak.

chinarice said:
My favorite part about TJ is that he cheated.
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lmao

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PaddyO'malley said:
Robert "The Real Deal" Trujillo
-5-0 in slaps all stoppages
-Scooped a TKO without throwing a single slap (broke di opps hand wid him face)
-Opps runnin' up a weight class just to survive

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holy shit Roberto Duran of Slap Boxing coming to MMA?
 
Peak Jon Jones would beat anyone in MMA history in their peak forms including Fedor.

Motivated Jon is the greatest fighter in human history.
 
JustOnce said:
holy shit Roberto Duran of Slap Boxing coming to MMA?
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Nah him more like Belal mad respectful except w/knockout power he's 5-1 MMA rn ngl way better at slaps

Wi had one tho bro was Irish got di boot fi soccer kickin' di opps I wonder if its cultural
 
PaddyO'malley said:
Nah him more like Belal mad respectful except w/knockout power he's 5-1 MMA rn ngl way better at slaps

Wi had one tho bro was Irish got di boot fi soccer kickin' di opps I wonder if its cultural
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lmmmmaaaaaaaaao

okay it started becoming less of english, but i'm getting that he's the goat lol

yesssss
 
JustOnce said:
You know, when you follow MMA, i don't know why, but it's the sport that makes you feel the oldest because everything passes by so fast. I mean look at it now, it feels like a yesterday that Shavkat, Khamzat, DDP, Aspinall were coming in around Covid, and Covid is all gone and these guys at the top of the mountain now.

I do wonder about this from time to time, but I saw Epo-shaw talking about Cody being a good match for Merab, and who can forget how amazing Cody looked in that fight. I feel like Epo-shaw deleted a lot of peoples' careers, and damn him for that, probably Cody and Barao being the biggest victims outside him hurting a guy in training, but it's also true that it's always a race against time for a fighter to keep up that peak state of their careers.

Who were the fighters, and a specific time in their careers, that you point to and say, man, this fighter at that certain time in the world, was as good as any, that we've ever seen and ever will?

For me, if I pick a few, chronologically,

Takanori Gomi, 24-2 record, Dec of 2005, against Sakurai
- Ended the year as PRIDE Bushido LWGP Champ, A fighter of the year on Sherdog along with Shogun, A top pound for pound fighter on Sherdog with Fedor.

GSP, 17-2 record, August of 2008, against Jon Fitch
- In my opinion, the best form that GSP ever was in. Striking fluid which deteriorated over time, and wrestling and grappling as smooth as ever.

Shogun Rua, 18-3 record, Oct of 2009, against Machida
- Machida looked unsolveable as any fighters ever, Shogun showed up and made him look mortal. Shogun looked as technical as ever with that toughness of his on top of it.

Jon Jones, 13-1 record, March of 2011, against Shogun Rua
- The level of athleticism, destructive gnp, wrestling, and diverse striking that he showed, against the best there was in Shogun, were mind-blowing. It was just a start, but I think the fight that Jones looked his best.

Cody Garbrandt, 11-0 record, Dec of 2016, against Cruz
- Outpointed prime Dominic Cruz. What else can you say?
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For Shogun it was the 05 GP
For Jon it was the Rampage fight

Others to include BJ back 2 back wins over Gomi & Hughes... maybe up until he fought GSP1... also his LW run with Marinovic

Andersons peak was the Forrest fight. He looked great vs Vitor too but looking back getting dropped by pillow fist Sonnen was the beginning of the end. He had a granite chin before

Giblert peak was the Bendo fight. That was also Bendos peak

Rampage peak was vs Hendo

Chucks peak was vs Randy 3

Wanderlei Peak ended when he lost to Arona

Crocop peak was vs Fedor. That was also Fedors peak.

Werdums peak was his ufc title run up to Mexico Cain

JDS peak ended woth the 3rd Cain fight

Cains peak ended with his loss to Werdum

Chucks peak ended with the 2nd Rampage fight


So many of these guys had insane records while fighting the absolute best consistently and being very active
 
BowserJr said:
For Shogun it was the 05 GP
For Jon it was the Rampage fight

Others to include BJ back 2 back wins over Gomi & Hughes... maybe up until he fought GSP1... also his LW run with Marinovic

Andersons peak was the Forrest fight. He looked great vs Vitor too but looking back getting dropped by pillow fist Sonnen was the beginning of the end. He had a granite chin before

Giblert peak was the Bendo fight. That was also Bendos peak

Rampage peak was vs Hendo

Chucks peak was vs Randy 3

Wanderlei Peak ended when he lost to Arona

Crocop peak was vs Fedor. That was also Fedors peak.

Werdums peak was his ufc title run up to Mexico Cain

JDS peak ended woth the 3rd Cain fight

Cains peak ended with his loss to Werdum

Chucks peak ended with the 2nd Rampage fight


So many of these guys had insane records while fighting the absolute best consistently and being very active
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You know, I really thought Gilbert was going to do much better than he did. Giblert is a legend for his name alone, but he is a case where he didn't quite achieve greatness like Gomi, BJ and so on but nevertheless dropped off in performance fast and drastically. Maybe it was because he pissed hot, or I guess it's also true he went though really tough competition.

All of these guys were monsters, but I really feel for JDS too. They should've never rushed that rematch, you know? I mean the trilogy one. They should have not done that, it was a bad idea, and it even turned out worse.

That rampage fight, Rampage didn't want that fight that soon. He wanted to fight again before fighting chuck again, but I guess UFC obviously had other plans. Then Chuck got ktfo..oh well.

All these guys were monsters indeed, but I guess the time is the greatest one of them all, I guess it's like Thannos, it's inevitable....man I feel old.

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JustOnce said:
You know, I really thought Gilbert was going to do much better than he did. Giblert is a legend for his name alone, but he is a case where he didn't quite achieve greatness like Gomi, BJ and so on but nevertheless dropped off in performance fast and drastically. Maybe it was because he pissed hot, or I guess it's also true he went though really tough competition.

All of these guys were monsters, but I really feel for JDS too. They should've never rushed that rematch, you know? I mean the trilogy one. They should have not done that, it was a bad idea, and it even turned out worse.

That rampage fight, Rampage didn't want that fight that soon. He wanted to fight again before fighting chuck again, but I guess UFC obviously had other plans. Then Chuck got ktfo..oh well.

All these guys were monsters indeed, but I guess the time is the greatest one of them all, I guess it's like Thannos, it's inevitable....man I feel old.

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Ya man me too lol. I remember when Anderson KOed Fryklund and soon after signed with UFC. No mma fans knew anything about him when he was matched with Leben lol.

As far as Giblert he was legit. His run in Strikeforce was solid he pretty much beat every good fighter outside the UFC except Alvarez who didn't face until in UFC... and JZ


Ishida, Kawajiri, Masvidal, Thomson, Aoki were all solid top LW
 
BowserJr said:
Ya man me too lol. I remember when Anderson KOed Fryklund and soon after signed with UFC. No mma fans knew anything about him when he was matched with Leben lol.

As far as Giblert he was legit. His run in Strikeforce was solid he pretty much beat every good fighter outside the UFC except Alvarez who didn't face until in UFC... and JZ


Ishida, Kawajiri, Masvidal, Thomson, Aoki were all solid top LW
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I thought Rich was going to beat him too lol oh well only if Rich knew how to defend clinches....like literally both fights.

Giblert looked like as legit as they come....but then steep decline and pissing hot...

JZ actually looked like he was going to be really good too but then....it just fizzled out I guess
 
Fedor when he fought Hendo. Rua in the first Forrest fight. Cro cop against Gonzaga. Wand against Lidell.
 
Sean Chowdhury said:
Some modern examples would be

volkanovski from 2019-2023, the holloway 3 fight where he schooled max and giving islam his toughest fight was something special to watch. Shame to see what's happened to him now but still a great resume

Alex Pereira 2022-2024, knocking out loudmouth strickland, comeback finish against izzy in the first fight, and beating 3 LHW champs in a row is an amazing run in such a short time.

Islam 2022-24, finishing oliveira so easily and tapping out blackbelts like poirier and moicano is impressive, foty against volk too. Arguably surpassed khabib which almost no one could have predicted prior to the oliveira fight
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They never should have had him fight Islam a second time on short notice where he admitted to drinking alcohol leading up to that fight. He got KO'ed from the head kick from the champ a weight class above and that certainly made it easier for his lights to get shut out in his fight against Topuria.

Now UFC might be making the same mistake again and putting him back in there with Topuria, a power puncher, yet again.

I am not surprised though as they have to cash in on the Topuria/Volk rematch PPV main event now. If Volk were to lose a supposed tune up fight, they would lose the opportunity ($$$$) to ever run a big Volk/Topuria fight again, and they would love to do it in Australia if they could.

It just sucks because Volk really needs a tune up right now. Someone he can beat and regain his confidence back without taking damage
 
Typrune Goatley said:
They never should have had him fight Islam a second time on short notice where he admitted to drinking alcohol leading up to that fight. He got KO'ed from the head kick from the champ a weight class above and that certainly made it easier for his lights to get shut out in his fight against Topuria.

Now UFC might be making the same mistake again and putting him back in there with Topuria, a power puncher, yet again.

I am not surprised though as they have to cash in on the Topuria/Volk rematch PPV main event now. If Volk were to lose a supposed tune up fight, they would lose the opportunity ($$$$) to ever run a big Volk/Topuria fight again, and they would love to do it in Australia if they could.

It just sucks because Volk really needs a tune up right now. Someone he can beat and regain his confidence back without taking damage
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it seems like volk is too stubborn which leads to his downfall, he genuinely thought he could beat islam on 10 days notice, and that making a 3 month turnaround against the most powerful guy in his division(Ilia) wouldn't be a bad choice. He should fight someone like sterling or evloev next but he thinks he can beat Ilia so he's gonna rush into a rematch and get ko'd again unfortunately
 
Not sure if this has been said yet....but Pride Shogun was much better then UFC version. He was never the same after the arm break. Pre Arm Break Shogun was on track to be a GOAT.
 
UFC 100 Brock
UFC 205 Conor
UFC 166 Cain
UFC 236 Poirier
UFC 253 Adesanya
 
Fedor when he fought Dan Henderson.

That was two fighters in their primes.
 
Does it count what said fighter is peaking into a Kleenex?
 
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