Fighter suspended for dangerous weight cut! lets talk about weight cutting!

[MixMartialFarts]

Weight cutting has never made me feel like I was going to puke, maybe after the weigh in if you eat/drink too much too fast, but never during the cut. He was more then likely sick to begin with.

 

[jk7707]

He must have gotten ahold of some original recipe fight milk

 

[sfer1]

Figueiredo walks around heavier than 160 and fights at 125. Let that sink in.

 

[campbecc]

a four month suspension is not exactly much of a suspension, he won't have any problem getting a nephrologist to say his kidneys are fine, and if they aren't then being suspended is the best thing that could have ever happened to him.

 

[campbecc]

Random weigh ins same as a drug test. Throw the fuckers on a scale! if they weigh 205 they are not allowed to fight at fricken 185 ect.

it would be easier and more fair to have a blood osmolarity test at the same time as the weigh in. Fighters also cut weight during camp by getting into better shape with lower body fat so just saying they can't be heavier at any point would be restricting their walk around weight not just their fight night weight which is what matters.

Edit: you can also urine but then you run into the problem with them saying they can't urinate (which is probably true) then drinking a ton of water which makes the test less accurate, blood done at the time of the weigh in would be nearly impossible to cheat.

 

[Poatan Power]

I hate just putting "suspended" in the headline or thread title, it's a medical suspension not a disciplinary one. He didn't get in trouble for posting the video.

I wonder if he's got some kind of undiagnosed condition which when put under stress from the weight cut caused him to vomit green-yellow liquid

That's what you'll vomit when you haven't ate. It's bile.

 

[michi972]

Random weigh ins same as a drug test. Throw the fuckers on a scale! if they weigh 205 they are not allowed to fight at fricken 185 ect.

Well a bit od a stretch, but you can get down 20 pounds by good diet and activity itself, but should be some regulations on cutting on water

 

[markys00]

Figueiredo walks around heavier than 160 and fights at 125. Let that sink in.

Uhhhhh. Walk around weight means jack shit.

 

[GBJohn]

it would be easier and more fair to have a blood osmolarity test at the same time as the weigh in. Fighters also cut weight during camp by getting into better shape with lower body fat so just saying they can't be heavier at any point would be restricting their walk around weight not just their fight night weight which is what matters.

Edit: you can also urine but then you run into the problem with them saying they can't urinate (which is probably true) then drinking a ton of water which makes the test less accurate, blood done at the time of the weigh in would be nearly impossible to cheat.

I like this idea, but it can be very hard to find a vein on a dehydrated person. I am not a medical professional, but I have had a lot of blood drawn over the last few years.

 

[Jitter]

Maybe do 2 weigh ins. One day before and other day of fight. If the weight difference is more than X pounds the fight counts as a loss, you lose your purse, and your opponent gets show + win money.

 

[avenue94]

It's pretty easy to solve, promoters, primarily the UFC, are just too lazy and cheap to solve it. And they won't until someone dies.

 

[campbecc]

I like this idea, but it can be very hard to find a vein on a dehydrated person. I am not a medical professional, but I have had a lot of blood drawn over the last few years.

being dehydrated shrinks fat and makes veins easier to find. Plus don't they do blood tests for drugs on the same day as the weigh in anyway?

 

[GBJohn]

being dehydrated shrinks fat and makes veins easier to find. Plus don't they do blood tests for drugs on the same day as the weigh in anyway?

I was just going by what I was told by folks taking my blood, and I don't know if they draw blood around the weigh in. That might make sense, though, as dehydration will also make foreign substances easier to detect.
Edited to add: the people taking my blood are not generally working with athletes with extremely low body fat, so both thoughts on finding veins may be true, just in different circumstances.

 

[TheChance]

I was just going by what I was told by folks taking my blood, and I don't know if they draw blood around the weigh in. That might make sense, though, as dehydration will also make foreign substances easier to detect.
Edited to add: the people taking my blood are not generally working with athletes with extremely low body fat, so both thoughts on finding veins may be true, just in different circumstances.

While being dehydrated makes the veins flatter and harder to poke any halfway decent phlebotomist will have no trouble with a veni puncture on any fighter. They tend to be very vascular.

 

[MRT]

Of course I agree that something needs to be done about this pointless and dangerous practise of weight cutting in combat sports...it is *ridiculous* that this has not been stamped out yet.

Having said that, the most embarrassing part of this whole thing is Mohegan Tribe Department of Athletic Regulation director Mike Mazzulli stating that "[a]fter looking at that video, I was appalled that a fighter would go that extent to lose weight.”

Either Mazzulli is simply lying about his knowledge (i.e. he is well aware that this type of thing happens all the time and is just covering his own ass because the vid was posted) or he is a clueless jackass who has no business being the director of the agency responsible for sanctioning fight. Either way, his statement reflects very poorly on himself, IMHO.

Unfortunately, I suspect this kind of punishment for the fighter and his team will have *zero* effect on the actual practise of weight cutting and will merely remind them to be more discrete about it by not posting pics and vids, even after the fight.

 

[SlomiGa]

What a rookie. You cut height first then weight.

 

[Tito Tapped]

It should always be up to the fighter to decide which class they want to fight at.

They also get to decide how they want to go about making the weight they agreed to fight at in the first place.

You want to dictate how fighters cut weight and where they are allowed to compete? What about fighters that get hurt sparring too hard? Why aren't you policing gym sessions that are too rough? I bet that leads to way more injuries than poor weight cuts do. Should we be like the NFL and make rules about how many practices fighters are allowed to have and when they have to wear pads or not?

 

[TerrorTimmy]

Weight cutting needs to be ended already. It robs us of a lot of good fights and quite frankly fighters can't be at their best a day after severely dehydrating themselves

 

[BEATDOWNS]

Maybe do 2 weigh ins. One day before and other day of fight. If the weight difference is more than X pounds the fight counts as a loss, you lose your purse, and your opponent gets show + win money.

They did this for one card can't remember which state but they where only allowed to put back on 13 pounds or something like that. This would be a good start to get that going. imho

 

[BigTruck]

I might have the same condition, something very similar happened to me only I drank 23 white claws instead of cutting weight

Legit lol. Thank you sir.