Crime Ferris Mueller's Election Off (Mueller thread v. 24)

[hillelslovak87]

Ducking and dodging, I see. Let's discuss the impressive extradition, if you could call it that, of Noriega and his subsequent trials.

Dude, you are the one who has been claiming Mueller is a can. I brought his list of accomplishments as a prosecutor, and the fact that not only was he the longest serving fbi director since hoover both under dem and gop admins, he has a sterling reputation across the board.

Maybe it's you who is the hack, due to the fact that you keep speaking in the exact pattern and style of someone who knows nothing of which he speaks. You keep speaking of both American and international law as if you know anything about either, while the people in the community respect him. It's almost as if they can recognize achievements in their fields while you can't because they actually know what they are talking about.

Your confidence is inverse with both your ability to form a proper line of reasoning, and your inability to articulate it in any fashion approaching competence or coherence.

 

[grizzard2bid]

Dude, you are the one who has been claiming Mueller is a can. I brought his list of accomplishments as a prosecutor, and the fact that not only was he the longest serving fbi director since hoover both under dem and gop admins, he has a sterling reputation across the board.

Maybe it's you who is the hack, due to the fact that you keep speaking in the exact pattern and style of someone who knows nothing of which he speaks. You keep speaking of both American and international law as if you know anything about either, while the people in the community respect him. It's almost as if they can recognize achievements in their fields while you can't because they actually know what they are talking about.

Your confidence is inverse with both your ability to form a proper line of reasoning, and your inability to articulate it in any fashion approaching competence or coherence.

Thank you for another empty post. So you go with dodge via "hearsay", followed by empty post, by insults. "But he was a long serving FBI director" is not an accomplishment. Bush Jr was a two term president. Dick Cheney was on two top administrative positions over three terms.

If you're gonna lay on me another empty wall of text of your politically infused stream of consciousness, we're just running in circles. If Mueller was investigating Hillary or Trump or Obama, I'd always question his credibility equally. I bet you wouldn't see things the same if it wasn't Trump who was in a hot seat.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Thank you for another empty post. So you go with dodge via "hearsay", followed by empty post, by insults. "But he was a long serving FBI director" is not an accomplishment. Bush Jr was a two term president. Dick Cheney was on two top administrative positions over three terms.

If you're gonna lay on me another empty wall of text of your politically infused stream of consciousness, we're just running in circles. If Mueller was investigating Hillary or Trump or Obama, I'd always question his credibility equally. I bet you wouldn't see things the same if it wasn't Trump who was in a hot seat.

FBI directors don't serve term after term. Mueller was the exception for a reason. His reputation was and is sterling, as it was as a prosecutor, something you still obfuscate in the pretense of engagement. You have yet to show, in any sense how Robert Mueller is "a can" in your estimation. You've pretended that 9/11 was all his fault, that Noriega's prosecution was some trivial affair, refused to engage on the Gotti case, much less the litany of other cases in regards to terrorism, like the Pan Am bombing and bank fraud, like Enron or BCCI.

I await another post of non reasoning, simply asserting and pretending as if all the argumentative work has been done with the assertion.

 

[Gandhi]

“Snitches get stitches “

-potus

Imagine if a Dem said anything close to that. The alternate reality right strikes again.

 

[grizzard2bid]

FBI directors don't serve term after term. Mueller was the exception for a reason. His reputation was and is sterling, as it was as a prosecutor, something you still obfuscate in the pretense of engagement. You have yet to show, in any sense how Robert Mueller is "a can" in your estimation. You've pretended that 9/11 was all his fault, that Noriega's prosecution was some trivial affair, refused to engage on the Gotti case, much less the litany of other cases in regards to terrorism, like the Pan Am bombing and bank fraud, like Enron or BCCI.

I await another post of non reasoning, simply asserting and pretending as if all the argumentative work has been done with the assertion.

I'm glad you brought up fraud. I do fault myself for mentioning the fact that Mueller didn't make a single arrest on Wall Street after the financial collapse. Oh, wait one single arrest of that Indian insider trading fella, despite among all the rampant fraud that took place. Not a single indictment.He was either incompetent or was given a direct order to stand down by Bush or Obama. Now, you could make an argument that he would be up against the most connected/powerful men in the world with unlimited resources, but that would further put his credibility as a capable and independent prosecutor at risk. He certainly could have gotten convictions of those bankers, the sentiment in public was extremely negative towards the financial industry. It' wouldn't be like trying OJ or Kobe or any other well-liked celebrity. Wall Street was the most disliked "frat-boys-club" at the time. The problem with Mueller is that he looks good on surface, but when you start to dig deep it starts to unravel and paints a far less flattering picture. I'll throw an olive branch, and say that's pretty much the situation with Trump's wealth and business acumen- he's been the symbol of wealth and opulence, while embroiled in bankruptcies and shady shenanigans.

And I do stand by all other assertions that I've made. If you disagree, please do explain why you think I'm wrong by citing actual sources and evidence.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Trump Organization subpoenaed for business records
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/05/politics/trump-organization-subpoenas-served/index.html

Oh shit, this gittin gooooood. What say you, dickless donnytards?

 

[hillelslovak87]

I do fault myself for mentioning the fact that Mueller didn't make a single arrest on Wall Street after the financial collapse. Oh, wait one single arrest of that Indian insider trading fella, despite among all the rampant fraud that took place. Not a single indictment.He was either incompetent or was given a direct order to stand down by Bush or Obama. The problem with Mueller is that he looks good on surface, but when you start to dig deep it starts to unravel and paints a far less flattering picture. I'll throw an olive branch, and say that's pretty much the situation with Trump's wealth and business acumen- he's been the symbol of wealth and opulence, while embroiled in bankruptcies and shady shenanigans.

And I do stand by all other assertions that I've made. If you disagree, please do explain why you think I'm wrong by citing actual sources and evidence.

Ok, so you're not going to address any of the things he actually did, settling for conspiracy theories. Cool. The problem is that he has a great record, not only on the surface, of some gigantic high level wins, and you're bitching and providing nothing.

 

[grizzard2bid]

Ok, so you're not going to address any of the things he actually did, settling for conspiracy theories. Cool. The problem is that he has a great record, not only on the surface, of some gigantic high level wins, and you're bitching and providing nothing.

I've already addressed Noriega extradition and trial and asked if you would like to counter, and you slammed me with two paragraphs of verbiage entwined insults. Would you like to revisit the Noriega conviction? Bear in mind we're talking about a CIA asset who was known to deal with drugs and guns and other illegal activities, and when he started to be a liability and was seen as loose end, US invaded Panama, he was captured and then sent to Miami for trial. He was convicted, of course, and sent to trial to France after only 17 years, where he too was convicted, and then he was sent back to Panama for trial where he once again was convicted for other crimes. You had to be a world-class can to not convict that guy.

This is cringeworthy:

 

[hillelslovak87]

I've already addressed Noriega extradition and trial and asked if you would like to counter, and you slammed me with two paragraphs of verbiage entwined insults. Would you like to revisit the Noriega conviction? Bear in mind we're talking about a CIA asset who was known to deal with drugs and guns and other illegal activities, and when he started to be a liability and was seen as loose end, US invaded Panama, he was captured and then sent to Miami for trial. He was convicted, of course, and sent to trial to France after only 17 years, where he too was convicted, and then he was sent back to Panama for trial where he once again was convicted for other crimes. You had to be a world-class can to not convict that guy.

This is cringeworthy:

You stated the facts, then attempted to connect the dots between those facts and your assertion of it being a slam dunk. You have failed to do so, and you have failed to address any of the other cases I mentioned, save the time when you asserted that the Gotti case was a slam dunk as well, demonstrating a complete lack of knowledge pertaining to that case. Fantastic. Next, let me hear about how he was just an administrator during the slam dunk Enron case.

 

[grizzard2bid]

You stated the facts, then attempted to connect the dots

Considering the flow of speculation in this thread around the whole investigation that hasn't even been completed, I'm keeping it pretty conservative talking about a closed investigation that was obviously a coup by US of Panamenian dictator and former CIA asset, that was detained, extradited and convicted. And you're at it again, like I'm debunking a moon landing.

Spoiler: SEE YA

 

[hillelslovak87]

Considering the flow of speculation in this thread around the whole investigation that hasn't even been completed, I'm keeping it pretty conservative talking about a closed investigation that was obviously a coup by US of Panamenian dictator and former CIA asset, that was detained, extradited and convicted. And you're at it again, like I'm debunking a moon landing.

Spoiler: SEE YA

And yet, you have nothing but your assertion, and have not even attempted to address the other cases brought up. I wonder why that is. And you keep insisting you're not some MAGA dipshit. lol.

 

[grizzard2bid]

And yet, you have nothing but your assertion, and have not even attempted to address the other cases brought up. I wonder why that is. And you keep insisting you're not some MAGA dipshit. lol.

Accuses me of assertions, while asserting all kinds of speculations about me and the case.
Cool, I'll eat it up, but I like my hypocrisy steak well-done.

And why am I going to jump from case to case if you fail to even acknowledge when I have a good argument. We still haven't discussed the Noriega case you've been raving about, but when I bring up the details you go into the "this is assertion and speculations" mode. It's like you run into a glitch just as we're ready to make some progress.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Accuses me of assertions, while asserting all kinds of speculations about me and the case.
Cool, I'll eat it up, but I like my hypocrisy steak well-done.

And why am I going to jump from case to case if you fail to even acknowledge when I have a good argument. We still haven't discussed the Noriega case you've been raving about, but when I bring up the details you go into the "this is assertion and speculations" mode. It's like you run into a glitch just as we're ready to make some progress.

Let us grant your Noriega position, which you take alone. Address Enron, or BCCI, or the Pan Am bombing, or The Gotti case. I'll wait, since all you have done here is say he's a can then dodge.

 

[grizzard2bid]

Let us grant your Noriega position, which you take alone. Address Enron, or BCCI, or the Pan Am bombing, or The Gotti case. I'll wait, since all you have done here is say he's a can then dodge.

How gracious. Doesn't seem like you're ever going to concede anything. You kept pulling out the Noriega Gotti cases. I've addressed why Noriega case was not just a slam dunk, but a political persecution of a freign leader, however corrupt, and you haven't given any valid argument to the contrary, but still insist it was impressive. Noriega wasn't cooperating with US/Bush Sr. interests, so they invaded the country, took Noriega hostage, shipped him to US and tried him on US soil. Mueller was Bush's water carrying mule.

If you're not going concede without giving valid reasons why, what's the point of addressing other cases you brought up. You'll just do this broken record spiel.

Two can play this game. How many indictments/convictions did Mueller get from investigating financial collapse? Certainly laws were broken. But a matter of fact is, backroom deals were cut, and Mueller's bosses told their lapdog to sit tight. He's not just a can prosecutor, but was a mule and a lapdog for Bush and Obama administrations. A disgrace.

You're obviously not dumb, and know when you get to those higher DOJ positions or any in government and to stay on for that long, you don't just serve the law and the public, you answer to the people who got you there. I don't know if Mueller was complicit with direction Bush and Obama administrations took post collapse or if he was used as a tool and followed orders, but we can agree that he only did what he was told.

 

[foxnoob]

rofl at some whitebelt trying desperately to derail this thread. Some retard conspiracy theorist on the internet is posting like it's his job to attack Mueller's reputation on a karate forum. It is unadvisable to acknowledge the existence of or converse with bots, bros.

 

[xcvbn]

If Mueller's investigation includes money laundering shits gonna pop off

 

[Joe]

Trump is blaming Mueller for his terrible ratings claiming he'd be at 75% <Lmaoo> also still touting rasmussen polls <Lmaoo>

 

[xcvbn]

Fyi "individual 2" is Felix Sater, not Trump Jr.

He became an FBI informant after being charged with $40M in fraud(he ratted on fellow mafia members to avoid conviction) so there should be a substantial file on him

 

[Seano]

Trump Organization subpoenaed for business records
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/05/politics/trump-organization-subpoenas-served/index.html

Oh shit, this gittin gooooood. What say you, dickless donnytards?

This is it!

 

[method115]

rofl at some whitebelt trying desperately to derail this thread. Some retard conspiracy theorist on the internet is posting like it's his job to attack Mueller's reputation on a karate forum. It is unadvisable to acknowledge the existence of or converse with bots, bros.

It is weird to me how everyone trust this guy so much after the whole WMD fuck up. I don't get how you even have a job at such a high level after a fuck up that bad.