Crime Ferris Mueller's Election Off (Mueller thread v. 24)

[PolishHeadlock]

I'm leery of clicking that shit.
What's the story?

Lawfare blog is very critical of Trump

Look up Benjamin Wittes

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Lawfare blog is very critical of Trump

Look up Benjamin Wittes

I mean, I don't want the Google invasiveness to start targeting me with anti Trump stuff.

Cliff's?

 

[Joe]

 

[ChainFlow]

There is no chance in hell of that happening.Maybe it happens in hell, but not on earth.
...
They even gave Snowden an asylum shortly after.

*ESL sense tingling*

Your employers really should invest in some cultural immersion courses before putting you on active duty.

 

[grizzard2bid]

*ESL sense tingling*
Frankly, I have nothing smart to say in rebuttal on the subject of Mueller's credibility, so I'll sling some juvenile jokes.

 

[Quipling]

This has to be another accidental.link from Rudy....

It is. He has a typo habit of no spaces after periods, which can result in accidental domain names.

 

[Quipling]

I mean, I don't want the Google invasiveness to start targeting me with anti Trump stuff.

Cliff's?

Just go to lawfareblog.com instead of searching it through Google to avoid the Google trap.

It's not easily summarized, but they do a good job of discussing the investigation and the legal documents associated with it.

 

[Quipling]

Crossposting this here RE Corsi's complaint:

Just read his complaint. It's fucking terrible. I've seen better from first-year associates who had to hang their own shingle. It has two main threads:

Claims under criminal statutes.
These are utterly toothless. Corsi cannot bring a criminal complaint. He is a private citizen and is limited to private causes of action.

Claims of professional misconduct.
Corsi can file a complaint of professional misconduct with the Office of Professional Responsibility. (It's not clear that he did, although he cc'd a member of the office).

But his charges are terrible. The first is that the OSC is threatening to charge him with perjury, and this is a violation of Rule 3.8(b). (p. 17-19). Rule 3.8(b) prohibits prosecutors from bringing charges that they know to be false, but Corsi's entire basis for claiming that they knew the perjury charge was false is that he told them that he didn't lie. (p. 6) (on the very next page Corsi admits that he gave them false information).

The other big one is that Mueller's entire team is conflicted because some of them are afflicted with or donated to Democratic candidates. This is incorrect. Donations to a different party or associations with their members are not a basis for a conflict of interest.

The remainder echo the above in some fashion.

 

[hillelslovak87]

And that shows a complete lack of understanding of our justice system. People not physically present in a jurisdiction are often charged for a multitude of reasons: to make sure the statute of limitations doesn't run; so that they may be subject to arrest should they ever appear in the jurisdiction; so that an active warrant can be issued for purposes of extradition, or to keep with treaty obligations where other countries require such before extradition/confinement; as a statutory requirement to seize assets or freeze bank accounts.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. They really need to give you guys just at least an intro into American Governance 101 before they send you out in the world to shit-post everywhere.

I asked him, again and again, if he thought there could be a reason other than a pr stunt that would cause Mueller to indict these men. He insisted I was a whore for Mueller like his is for Trump, said Mueller is a can and refused to engage when I stated Mueller's major achievements. Sad!

I didn’t realize/forgot until this timeline was posted that Nunes could be dragged into all of this because of his time with the transition team an it would explain his wanting to torpedo the House Intel investigation into Russia.

If anyone looks like they are trying to clean up their room by throwing all of their toys under the bed, it is definitely Nunes.

Nunes needs to go away. He has been about as destructive to the idea of checks and balances within a free republic as anyone has.

 

[hillelslovak87]

Lol at this goofy looking mofo

Probably thought he was a real swinging dick, getting some exotic Russian fire crotch strange. Now he might catch an espionage case

That is hilarious. What is he, 40 there? And yet, Former National Treasurer of College Republicans. lol

 

[AndroidRage]

I've heard that it could signal otherwise as well. It'll be an interesting week for sure.

I'm checking out the redacteds, and it sure sounds like the Russians had shit on the national security advisor. Specifically that he conveyed the idea to the Russians that Obama's sanctions weren't something they had to be concerned about, don't acknowledge them, we'll fix it.

Therefore the Russians have something over him they can make public, and threaten to do so... compromised, as they say.

Strange how Trump dragged his feet with those Russian sanctions as well.

 

[Fawlty]

This has to be another accidental.link from Rudy....

I love Rudy so much lol

 

[Shoemaker]

This has to be another accidental.link from Rudy....

Good thing there's a #REALNEWS hashtag now. That will definitely make it easier to find real news.

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Strange how Trump dragged his feet with those Russian sanctions as well.

Everybody pile into the Mystery Machine!!

But seriously, we all knew why he tucked tail

 

[grizzard2bid]

I asked him, again and again, if he thought there could be a reason other than a pr stunt that would cause Mueller to indict these men. He insisted I was a whore for Mueller like his is for Trump, said Mueller is a can and refused to engage when I stated Mueller's major achievements. Sad!
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C'mon pal, at least tag me if you're going to misrepresent my posts.
We discussed specific's of Mueller's legal career ad nauseam just two pages before.
I never shied away from discussing specifics. Mueller's biggest reputation booster has always been his military service, which has nothing to do with his legal work. It's gets you pretty far in washington if you served and have connections.

 

[hillelslovak87]

C'mon pal, at least tag me if you're going to misrepresent my posts.
We discussed specific's of Mueller's legal career ad nauseam just two pages before.
I never shied away from discussing specifics. Mueller's biggest reputation booster has always been his military service, which has nothing to do with his legal work. It's gets you pretty far in washington if you served and have connections.

Yeah yeah yeah, continue to pretend as if you didn't completely discount his biggest legal wins as a prosecutor like Noriega and Gotti, who were slam dunks in your mind, which carries no legal acumen or common sense, apparently.

 

[Phisher]

 

[grizzard2bid]

Yeah yeah yeah, continue to pretend as if you didn't completely discount his biggest legal wins as a prosecutor like Noriega and Gotti, who were slam dunks in your mind, which carries no legal acumen or common sense, apparently.

Noriega relied upon military nationalism to maintain his support, and did not espouse a specific social or economic ideology. In 1988, Noriega was indicted by federal grand juries in Miami and Tampa on charges of racketeering, drug smuggling, and money laundering. Following the 1989 U.S. invasion of Panama, he was captured and flown to the United States, where he was tried on the Miami indictment. The trial, lasting from September 1991 to April 1992, ended with Noriega's conviction on most of the charges. He was sentenced to 40 years in prison, and ultimately served 17 years after a reduction in his sentence and time off for good behavior. Noriega's U.S. prison sentence ended in September 2007. In 2010, Noriega was extradited to France, where he was sentenced to seven years of imprisonment for money laundering. In 2011 France extradited him to Panama, where he was incarcerated for crimes committed during his rule.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Noriega

40 years for a gun-smuggling drug lord and released after doing 17?!They give out bigger sentences for bulk weed dealers. Embarrassing. Do you want to look into Gotti trial? I'm sure that was a more massive challenge than this grand prosecution.

Spoiler

 

[hillelslovak87]

Noriega relied upon military nationalism to maintain his support, and did not espouse a specific social or economic ideology. In 1988, Noriega was indicted by federal grand juries in Miami and Tampa on charges of racketeering, drug smuggling, and money laundering. Following the 1989 U.S. invasion of Panama, he was captured and flown to the United States, where he was tried on the Miami indictment. The trial, lasting from September 1991 to April 1992, ended with Noriega's conviction on most of the charges. He was sentenced to 40 years in prison, and ultimately served 17 years after a reduction in his sentence and time off for good behavior. Noriega's U.S. prison sentence ended in September 2007. In 2010, Noriega was extradited to France, where he was sentenced to seven years of imprisonment for money laundering. In 2011 France extradited him to Panama, where he was incarcerated for crimes committed during his rule.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Noriega

Spoiler

Cool, you've proven you are able to link a wiki. Congrats. I also have a wiki to provide:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gotti#"The_Teflon_Don"

 

[grizzard2bid]

Cool, you've proven you are able to link a wiki. Congrats. I also have a wiki to provide:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gotti#"The_Teflon_Don"

Ducking and dodging, I see. Let's discuss the impressive extradition, if you could call it that, of Noriega and his subsequent trials.