Feminism, Sexism, and Entitlement

[SowingSeason]

Fat Abbott:

 

[Memory**]

You should read up on feminism past the 60s-70s. It's not like that at all.

That's when it started.....

 

[BEER]

My view is that most feminists are barely even real women, they're uber masculine borderline lesbians with a serious case of penis envy.

I don't think you understand the difference between feminists and man hating lesbians.

Annd she made a career out of it. And many men have shoved things up their ass and never gotten immortalized or praised for it by mainstream society or the art world.

So, to push an agenda of gender equality in a time where there was no such thing, she should have been poor?

You realize by making a career out of her feminist art further pushed those boundaries, right?

 

[Cicero**]

It's not because of your race. You lack insight because you are unaware of your privilege.lots of white people don't indulge the petty bourgeoise obsession that is modern feminism. You aren't one

Can you acknowledge my parallel?

 

[panamaican]

I think the most prevalent issue on this subject is the dichotomy that women want to live under. They want equal treatment across the board but they want to retain the benefits of being the fairer, weaker sex.

Until that simply problem is resolved we will continue to experience what some people call anti-male sexism.

I watched a great video a while back about this and about value of life and how our current model devalues the male life relative to the woman's. Burning building? Who's supposed to run in and save people? Mugger pulls a gun? Who fights him and who gets to run away? Simple examples that illustrate the unspoken benefits that women simply don't want to acknowledge they receive and definitely don't want to give up.

 

[SowingSeason]

That's when it started.....

All political ideologies develop past their traditional roots. Are you fucking kidding me?

Go read a damn book.

 

[SowingSeason]

I think the most prevalent issue on this subject is the dichotomy that women want to live under. They want equal treatment across the board but they want to retain the benefits of being the fairer, weaker sex.

Until that simply problem is resolved we will continue to experience what some people call anti-male sexism.

I watched a great video a while back about this and about value of life and how our current model devalues the male life relative to the woman's. Burning building? Who's supposed to run in and save people? Mugger pulls a gun? Who fights him and who gets to run away? Simple examples that illustrate the unspoken benefits that women simply don't want to acknowledge they receive and definitely don't want to give up.

How would you suggest solving this issue?

Physically women are the weaker sex. How do we change these expectations when they're built around the actual proven limitations of a group?

 

[Josh]

Haha yes I do.how unaware can you be to equate modern feminism with the interests of women of color?

See, I can use the term 'feminism' just as the dictionary teaches me to use it. But you're determined to attach it to modifiers that serve your interest. If you and a million other ignorant people weren't so lazy, and instead of saying 'Down with feminism!', said, 'Hold on now, feminism is a fundamentally fair idea, let's not throw the baby out with the bath-water', we might get somewhere. Which you aren't interested in doing. You're using the ignorance of others as an excuse for your own laziness and misogyny.

 

[Fat Abbot]

I don't think you understand the difference between feminists and man hating lesbians.

The difference is that the man hating lesbian decided to actually come out of the closet.

Apart from hat theyre =.

 

[NorCalNinja]

This is what feminism has devolved into.


Did some research into the guy they were protesting and he is about as equal rights for equal sexes as you can possibly be.

They were protesting nothing.

According to them, anyone that stands up for mens rights is a rape-supporting male chauvinist. Its gross. These people need help.

 

[Memory**]

I don't think you understand the difference between feminists and man hating lesbians.



So, to push an agenda of gender equality in a time where there was no such thing, she should have been poor?

You realize by making a career out of her feminist art further pushed those boundaries, right?

She never would've been poor. Very few artists come from a working class background. I think she deserves all the accolades of any woman who shoves things into her offices. Or man for that matter.

 

[Crazyced]

I believe it is important to remember that sexism goes both ways and that the so-called "War on Women" may not be true, and if it is, then there's also a "War on Men" too. Modern-Day Feminism has actually made quite a few myths to garner great support on their side. The sad thing is that if you try to make a comment that disagrees with them you'll sometimes be called a "woman hater" or "scum of the earth." By no means do I consider myself to be either, but here are a few things I've learned through my own research, take it for what it's worth:

Myth 1. Women make less money than men due to discrimination

This is not entirely accurate in today's society. Although, there is an income disparity between men and women, both genders are generally paid the same for the same work. There are quite a few reasons for the income disparity, one of the main reasons being is that women, in general, prefer to be more socially-oriented with friends rather than career-oriented such as men. In other words, if men are given the opportunity to get more hours, rather than hang out with friends, they are more likely to do so. On frequent occasion, women actually make more per hour than men due to the fact that their interpersonal skills often exceed that of their male counterparts in negotiations of pay.

Myth 2. Women aren't being given as good of health-care as men

The evidence seems to point otherwise. Women have a much longer life-expectancy than men in the United States. Another interesting fact is that, although Breast and Prostate Cancer kill roughly the same amount of people, Breast Cancer Research gets about 700% more funding than does Prostate Cancer. It is possible that there is some health-care discrimination against women, but there's also a good amount against men that's not mentioned or downplayed.

Myth 3. Women aren't given the same opportunities for employment as men

Again, the evidence points to the contrary. Often businesses are actually interested in hiring more women due to tax-credit opportunities provided by the government. It's also mentioned that there are nearly no women in certain fields such as Construction, Coal Mining, ect. Yet the majority of these jobs are the most dangerous jobs on the planet. It's also downplayed that men make up an average of 93% of workplace related deaths due to the fields they dominate. And the safest occupations such as Secretaries and Receptionists are dominated by women by more than 90%.

These are just a few myths that are spread, there are many more, but I'm getting tired of writing. I'm not trying to say that there aren't any injustices against women, there are, but there are just as many injustices against men today that are downplayed primarily due to modern-day feminism.

 

[BEER]

I think the most prevalent issue on this subject is the dichotomy that women want to live under. They want equal treatment across the board but they want to retain the benefits of being the fairer, weaker sex.

Until that simply problem is resolved we will continue to experience what some people call anti-male sexism.

I watched a great video a while back about this and about value of life and how our current model devalues the male life relative to the woman's. Burning building? Who's supposed to run in and save people? Mugger pulls a gun? Who fights him and who gets to run away? Simple examples that illustrate the unspoken benefits that women simply don't want to acknowledge they receive and definitely don't want to give up.

I think the reason this gets so twisted is because a good percentage of women don't embrace feminist ideals. There are still plenty of women who love the idea of being taken care of.

But female police officers, firefighters, and military veterans show that there are plenty of women out there to take the risks that society has forever thought meant for men.

 

[panamaican]

How would you suggest this solving this issue?

Physically women are the weaker sex. How do we change these expectations when they're built around the actual proven limitations of a group?

You can't. That's the problem.

But if we acknowledge that differences between the sexes justify different treatment under certain circumstances then you have to apply that knowledge to other areas. And that undermines the argument that women and men should be treated equally in all things - which seems to be the cornerstone of the modern feminist movement.

 

[BownArrow]

I believe it is important to remember that sexism goes both ways and that the so-called "War on Women" may not be true, and if it is, then there's also a "War on Men" too.

I think the 'War on Women' thing was just a media hype title for a period where legislation was really moving towards limiting reproductive rights for women. Men definitely have special issues that need to be addressed, but they didn't quite happen in the same time span as what happened with women recently. As for the wage stuff, I don't think it's as simple as saying 'she's a woman, she deserves less money'- I think a lot of the explanations you listed are actually part of the problem

 

[SowingSeason]

I think the reason this gets so twisted is because a good percentage of women don't embrace feminist ideals. There are still plenty of women who love the idea of being taken care of.

But female police officers, firefighters, and military veterans show that there are plenty of women out there to take the risks that society has forever thought meant for men.

Excellent post.

 

[Cicero**]

I think the most prevalent issue on this subject is the dichotomy that women want to live under. They want equal treatment across the board but they want to retain the benefits of being the fairer, weaker sex.

Until that simply problem is resolved we will continue to experience what some people call anti-male sexism.

I watched a great video a while back about this and about value of life and how our current model devalues the male life relative to the woman's. Burning building? Who's supposed to run in and save people? Mugger pulls a gun? Who fights him and who gets to run away? Simple examples that illustrate the unspoken benefits that women simply don't want to acknowledge they receive and definitely don't want to give up.

You're talking about the disposable male?

 

[NorCalNinja]

Highly reccommend, if you have a few extra hours.

 

[BEER]

She never would've been poor. Very few artists come from a working class background. I think she deserves all the accolades of any woman who shoves things into her offices. Or man for that matter.

So, you completely disregarded the point I was making?

 

[Deadred2]

Hahaha! Thanks, I appreciate the GIF.