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Crime Female Castration at ICE centers

How about people stop illegally entering a country with no permission??
 
Civil and human rights abuses in state facilities is just a libtard quibble to these guys. Trump has turned these people into absolute nutbars, or exposed them as such at the very least.

lol @ your fake outrage.

I bet you support abortion.
 
Quite the difference between abortion and hysterectomies without consent.

Just because you're an apathetic slug doesn't mean everyone else is.

Granted, IF the allegations are true, operating on someone without consent is unethical.

I just find your outrage to be facetious as you are pro-abortion and killing a baby, without the babies’ consent. You are actually killing a life.

You just want to politicise everything. Never let a crisis go to waste.
 
Quite the difference between abortion and hysterectomies without consent.

Just because you're an apathetic slug doesn't mean everyone else is.

Would you agree that also bad to enter another country without consent or permission?

Seeing as you are so concerned about consent and permission.
 
Would you agree that also bad to enter another country without consent or permission?

Seeing as you are so concerned about consent and permission.

Consent between a person and a nation? Are you on crack?

Also, what in the hell does their legal status have to do with being given hysterectomies without their consent? You might want to learn about how these people are afforded all the same rights as citizens. It's the American way. You know, the nation you fled?
 
Consent between a person and a nation? Are you on crack?

Also, what in the hell does their legal status have to do with being given hysterectomies without their consent? You might want to learn about how these people are afforded all the same rights as citizens. It's the American way. You know, the nation you fled?

Yes, legal permission to enter a country. It’s called a visa.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travel_visa

Seeing as you are “so concerned” about the immorality of not having permission and consent, you should be equally outraged about immigrants entering a country, potentially claiming benefits, education, housing, food. All without any consent or permission to be there.

All paid for, BTW, by the American taxpayer and their unborn future generations.
 
Yes, legal permission to enter a country. It’s called a visa.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travel_visa

Seeing as you are so concerned about permission and consent, you should be equally outraged about immigrants entering a country, potentially claiming benefits, education, housing, food. All without any consent or permission to be there.

All paid for, BTW, by the American taxpayer and their unborn future generations.

I'm far more concerned about basic human rights being taken away from the vulnerable rather than the vulnerable coming to the nation that has been economically ravaging their own country and region for decade after decade.

Funny hearing a Trumper speak of legal immigration. You guys were all on the "Nah, we want the legal immigrants!!" train until Stephen Miller decided to all but halt our legal immigration apparatus.

But hey, good deflection against human rights abuses with....."Well, they shouldn't have come here to attain a better life, then they wouldn't be subjected to hysterectomies without their consent, duh!!"
 
Was ICE doing this stuff prior to Trump?

I remember Trump getting ridiculed for ICE caging illegals and the border patrol agents teargassing people at the border, until it turned out the same stuff was happening under Obamas terms, then it kinda just faded away from the news.
 
I'm far more concerned about basic human rights being taken away from the vulnerable rather than the vulnerable coming to the nation that has been economically ravaging their own country and region for decade after decade.

Funny hearing a Trumper speak of legal immigration. You guys were all on the "Nah, we want the legal immigrants!!" train until Stephen Miller decided to all but halt our legal immigration apparatus.

But hey, good deflection against human rights abuses with....."Well, they shouldn't have come here to attain a better life, then they wouldn't be subjected to hysterectomies without their consent, duh!!"

FTR, I think legal immigration should also be reduced. Illegal immigration is still much worse, though.

They are taking away a better life for American citizens. What about American citizens that actually pay taxes, whose forefathers built the infrastructure of the entire country?? Their country is their birthright. It’s being forcibly given to immigrants just because “But but, they want a better life”. lol, smh.

Not to mention, that for actual citizens:

More immigrants = higher living costs, lower wages.

You are not America first.
 
FTR, I think legal immigration should also be reduced. Illegal immigration is still much worse, though.

They are taking away a better life for American citizens. What about American citizens that actually pay taxes, whose forefathers built the infrastructure of the entire country?? Their country is their birthright. It’s being forcibly given to immigrants just because “But but, they want a better life”. lol, smh.

Not to mention, that for actual citizens:

More immigrants = higher living costs, lower wages.

You are not America first.

Jesus fucking christ. These people aren't avarice monsters. How you can continue to defend this manifestly monstrous shit because of their legal status is beyond me. What a poor and unethical deflection.

Lastly, jobs aren't taken, they're given, you dolt.
 
You are driven by emotion. People who believe in total border sovereignty and the best interests of our state are driven by facts.

Humans have emotions. People who aren't abject pieces of shit see hysterectomies done on the vulnerable without consent as being monstrous, while you pieces of shit see it as "Well, they didn't ask to come here."

Gotta love the irony of a Trumper speaking of facts, though.
 
Humans have emotions. People who aren't abject pieces of shit see hysterectomies done on the vulnerable without consent as being monstrous, while you pieces of shit see it as "Well, they didn't ask to come here."

Gotta love the irony of a Trumper speaking of facts, though.
Lmao you really think a doc can magically remove the uterus during a routine examination? It's a serious operation that needs serious prep, including anesthesia.
<JagsKiddingMe>
Is there anything you brainlets won't fall for when it comes to the bad orange man?
 
The state does not thrive on feelings. The United States has been the world's titty for too long. Build a wall, deport the illegals. Help those who have paid theirnsues to be here proclaim their loyalty to this beautiful country and become citizens. They deserve the opportunity, not some bastard to a teenager just as a way to get a foothold here.

The state operates on ethical principles that are supposed to separate it from places like China, where consent-absent procedures are done on the sex organs of women.

But hey, good job showing your emotional outlook, which seems comprised of mere hatred towards people you've never met, yet feel confident in describing, even in their goals and aims.

Good to know who is ok with hysterectomies done on vulnerable sectors of the population who are supposed to be protected by our constitution while on US soil.
 
Lmao you really think a doc can magically remove the uterus during a routine examination? It's a serious operation that needs serious prep, including anesthesia.
<JagsKiddingMe>
Is there anything you brainlets won't fall for when it comes to the bad orange man?

I believe the whistleblower, who was someone involved, and seems to have the basic grasp of facts pertaining to this situation you are unable or unwilling to acquaint yourself with.

I mean, what a stupid fucking argument for you to make, yeah?
 
Jesus fucking christ. These people aren't avarice monsters. How you can continue to defend this manifestly monstrous shit because of their legal status is beyond me. What a poor and unethical deflection.

Lastly, jobs aren't taken, they're given, you dolt.

I’m not defending anything. If you re-read my earlier post, I said that sterilising someone without permission is unethical.

However, sneaking into another country and taking advantage of resources at the expense of the citizens, without permission is also unethical.

There are plenty of American citizens that would love to afford a house, earn a respectable, livable salary, get married, have children, but they can’t, as they don’t have the resources.

Their country and infrastructure was built by their forefathers and is their birthright. Why don’t they matter?
 
I’m not defending anything. If you re-read my earlier post, I said that sterilising someone without permission is unethical.

However, sneaking into another country and taking advantage of resources at the expense of the citizens, without permission is also unethical.

There are plenty of American citizens that would love to afford a house, earn a respectable, livable salary, get married, have children, but they can’t, as they don’t have the resources.

You're making equivocations for the practice based upon these people being illegal immigrants, which is an absurdly facile thing to bring up, since these people are supposed to be protected by the constitution same as everyone else.

There's no "However" to be had here.

Also, "There are plenty of American citizens that would love to afford a house, earn a respectable, livable salary, get married, have children, but they can’t, as they don’t have the resources." is childish. It's not the immigrants takin' everything from you, homie.
 
You're making equivocations for the practice based upon these people being illegal immigrants, which is an absurdly facile thing to bring up, since these people are supposed to be protected by the constitution same as everyone else.

There's no "However" to be had here.

Also, "There are plenty of American citizens that would love to afford a house, earn a respectable, livable salary, get married, have children, but they can’t, as they don’t have the resources." is childish. It's not the immigrants takin' everything from you, homie.

Economics 101:

More people in the job/housing market drives down wages and drives up rent and housing prices.

Young millennials cry about “oh, I can’t have the 1970s “boomer lifestyle” of cheap houses and high wages” never seem to be able to join up the dots here.

At the end of the day, you need to make a choice about who you are putting first and prioritising. Your own people? Or foreigners? Are you America first or not?
 
Economics 101:

More people in the job/housing market drives down wages and drives up rent and housing prices.

Young millennials cry about “oh, I can’t have the 1970s “boomer lifestyle” of cheap houses and high wages” never seem to be able to join up the dots here.

Yeah, it was the Mexicans responsible for Reaganomics, or the GOP practice of massive taxcuts for billionaires, or undermining the tax code ensuring mega corps don't pay their taxes.

All on the Mexicans. And hey, if they come here? Well, they kind of asked for those hysterectomies in a way, didn't they?
 
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