Female African American cadets pose for controversial photo.

[Awesomesauce]

Assuming that people haven't served usually bites people like you in the ass.

I haven't even been in the military, I have however been in the field enough times with military units and been among command staff enough to know how they feel about this stuff. Whether you served or not really means shit. It doesn't make your statement any less delusional or retarded. I already said they won't get into any real official trouble. However this will follow them their entire career as it should. In the literally thousands of hours I have spent among soldiers I have to see a single case of inter squad racial tension. Maybe your experience is different, don't really care to be honest. Your a hypersensitive blowhard with persecution delusions regardless.

 

[SMEAC]

I don't know how cadets are dealt with, but the real world military equivalent punishment for giving a black power fist or similar would likely be a reprimand from your commander, for a group display like this. You'd have to be way deep on the shit list to catch charges for it. So whatever the equivalent of that is for cadets. It's really not that big a deal, certainly not a career-ender, just requires a disciplinary response.

So a political statement in uniform, signifying membership of an extremist group is not a big deal?

Add in that USMA has a very strict honor code

Probably why someone questioned if you served.

 

[HunterSdVa29]

The raised fist in African American culture could be watered down currently due to hysterical ass BLM but in many ways it's pretty relevant to the situation.

The US military has had a pretty terrible history involving treatment of African Americans. A raised fist meaning we have overcame isn't that terrible of a thing is it?

From African Americans being used for experiments to a group of girls working to become officers, no reason they shouldn't be proud of where they are.

what you're saying is true, however, the Military is the Single least racist and most diverse entity in the entire US......

11% of the US Navy, for example, is philipino. That's a significant portion of the entire US population.

The Sgt Maj of the USMC, right now, is black.....

Every Sgt Maj I had in the Army, was black...

etc....

 

[HunterSdVa29]

and this one cat has zero clue what's hes talking about.

This is absolutely, w/o doubt a NJP/Art 15 punishable offense, Field Grade at that.

You can't make statements politically in Uniform, every single cadet knows that, you sure as hell can't advertise it on Social Media....

I have literally processed Art 15s for THIS EXACT SAME ISSUE. More than once....

 

[HunterSdVa29]

I came this close to catching charges, for my statement in this interview for Stars and Stripes. Specifically, it was the 'so ya, some of us are just standing here' they didn't like. Which I didn't even say to the reporter, but I digress. Seriously, for that, I almost got a summarized ART 15 (LTC was a douche), but they liked me so nothing actually happened.
http://www.stripes.com/news/for-baumholder-s-170th-brigade-a-low-key-goodbye-1.192478

direct quote haha: “This is a pretty big moment,” Keniry, of San Diego, said. “The wars are drawing down. It looks like the presence in Europe may not be as much as it was. And so, I mean, yeah, we’re kind of just standing here in the ceremony, but this is a very important event in terms of military history, regimental history, brigade history.”

 

[usmctanker242]

and this one cat has zero clue what's hes talking about.

This is absolutely, w/o doubt a NJP/Art 15 punishable offense, Field Grade at that.

You can't make statements politically in Uniform, every single cadet knows that, you sure as hell can't advertise it on Social Media....

I have literally processed Art 15s for THIS EXACT SAME ISSUE. More than once....

I'll bet a good amount of money that NOTHING will come of this. We all know this kind of thing is only an issue if it's going a certain way... especially with the political arena we have these days. Trying to process multiple black women cadets for Article 15 just isn't going to happen... every single lawyer within 1000 miles will try to get their hands involved with it and turn it into a fucking shit show. The Army is smarter than that... if anything they will get a NPLOC (Non-Punitive Letter of Caution) which won't even end up in their service record.

Regardless, they should have known better than to take this picture, and to allow it out into the world.

 

[UpaLoompa]

This is of course besides the point that the military has had relatively few problems with racial tension since WW2. These women are going to have their careers severely hurt by this and quite frankly they deserve it. This will hurt there ability to function in a multi racial setting.

My brother is coming up on 20 and will probably put in his papers when he gets back from his current deployment since he figures his chance at further promotion (he's an LTC) are essentially nil.

We were talking about some random aspect of "real world" jobs (which I've also studiously avoided) and he was dumbfounded by some of the shit that my wife has dealt with. Not sexism (though that early on too) but rather the casual racism that's been common in many offices she's worked in. She kept a file of some of the more vile email forwards (think non-human primates) even after she left one job.

 

[My Spot]

They should be punished but nothing will happen for obvious reasons.

 

[Fawlty]

So a political statement in uniform, signifying membership of an extremist group is not a big deal?

Add in that USMA has a very strict honor code

Probably why someone questioned if you served.

So you'd recommend charges for something like that? That's a bit much. Assuming they are part of an extremist group without having any facts is ridiculous. Organizing protest activities is one thing, but throwing up solidarity signs for a photo? I think the difference is clear. One would be worthy of charges, the other of some good old fashioned discipline.

 

[Fawlty]

I haven't even been in the military, I have however been in the field enough times with military units and been among command staff enough to know how they feel about this stuff. Whether you served or not really means shit. It doesn't make your statement any less delusional or retarded. I already said they won't get into any real official trouble. However this will follow them their entire career as it should. In the literally thousands of hours I have spent among soldiers I have to see a single case of inter squad racial tension. Maybe your experience is different, don't really care to be honest. Your a hypersensitive blowhard with persecution delusions regardless.

Well good to know you're an expert. lol.

I think you might be the one sounding like a hypersensitive blowhard, and I'm being the reasonable one with a clear head. But that's for others to decide.

 

[SMEAC]

So you'd recommend charges for something like that? That's a bit much. Assuming they are part of an extremist group without having any facts is ridiculous. Organizing protest activities is one thing, but throwing up solidarity signs for a photo? I think the difference is clear. One would be worthy of charges, the other of some good old fashioned discipline.

You didn't make it to a leadership position did you?

You don't get how the military views extremist groups do you?

Black power symbol is not nothing bro

These woman are not examples of what an officer should be

 

[Fawlty]

if anything they will get a NPLOC (Non-Punitive Letter of Caution) which won't even end up in their service record.

That sounds reasonable provided it fixes the problem, no?

 

[Fawlty]

You didn't make it to a leadership position did you?

You don't get how the military views extremist groups do you?

Black power symbol is not nothing bro

These woman are not examples of what an officer should be

What is it with people trying to flex military cred around here? Really insecure.

You're concluding they're part of "an extremist group" which is fucking stupid. That's on you.

 

[SMEAC]

What is it with people trying to flex military cred around here? Really insecure.

You're concluding they're part of "an extremist group" which is fucking stupid. That's on you.

They are part of an extremist group, black power symbol, you can't throw a sieg heil either. Quit being a stupid private

 

[Fawlty]

They are part of an extremist group, black power symbol, you can't throw a sieg heil either. Quit being a stupid private

And how do you know what they were doing? You think it's more likely they were channeling the Panthers, or doing some stupid BLM shit. Hint, it's far more likely they were doing some stupid BLM shit. Which means they deserve to be disciplined for political activity in uniform. But if they're not organizing they shouldn't face the harshest punishment. What part of that doesn't make sense to you?

 

[KILL KILL]

They'll end up mopping some floors at the most.

 

[SMEAC]

And how do you know what they were doing? You think it's more likely they were channeling the Panthers, or doing some stupid BLM shit. Hint, it's far more likely they were doing some stupid BLM shit. Which means they deserve to be disciplined for political activity in uniform. But if they're not organizing they shouldn't face the harshest punishment. What part of that doesn't make sense to you?

Pretty much everything you say is naïve and immature

 

[SMEAC]

They'll end up mopping some floors at the most.

USMA they will have to walk tours more than likely, though if it was men and or a white symbol they would be out on their ass

 

[My Spot]

They'll end up mopping some floors at the most.

Nah, that's racist and sexist.

 

[ripskater]

That's the civil service army the Obama administration was probably talking about.