Feds piece together Cohen's shredded pages

[Cubo de Sangre]

One time the dog ate all the wife's student's final exams. By ate I mean shredded. She pieced 'em all back together with tape. Not sure if it helps or hinders when it's straight shredder-shreds or odd size/shape puppy-teeth-shreds.

 

[Tekk]

Let's suppose for a second I don't give Trump enough credit and he is smarter than I think. Why hire such an obviously dumb and awful lawyer?

I think with trumps narcacistic personality, he prefers loyalty over performance.

 

[HereticBD]

I always felt a paper shredder was dumb. All it does is say THIS STUFF IS IMPORTANT and requires tedious time putting back together. If you want something erased, burn it

Not really. It's normal for office work. It's not necessarily important or incriminating stuff. Just stuff you wouldn't want the garbage man reading, or any competitors. It's also just practical. Them crumpled up papers take up room quick.

Regardless, the guy must've had one of those old school shredders from the 80's, or the feds have some real fancy equipment. I can't imagine them putting together the shit that goes through my shredder. It practically turns paper into sand.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

Let's suppose for a second I don't give Trump enough credit and he is smarter than I think. Why hire such an obviously dumb and awful lawyer?

I think with trumps narcacistic personality, he prefers loyalty over performance.

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/19/donald-trump-hiring-people-smarter-than-you-is-a-mistake.html

WATCH: In 2007, Trump said he doesn’t believe in hiring people who are smarter than himself

 

[jefferz]

One time the dog ate all the wife's student's final exams. By ate I mean shredded. She pieced 'em all back together with tape. Not sure if it helps or hinders when it's straight shredder-shreds or odd size/shape puppy-teeth-shreds.

They probably have an AI that can piece the pages back together.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

They probably have an AI that can piece the pages back together.

Just scan it in and go get coffee?

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Who knew the FBI were fans of Better Call Saul?

 

[Fedorable]

Impossible

But computers remember most everything, even when damaged.

big office printers store everything that has been printed or electronically faxed.

 

[BrotherClaudio]

big office printers store everything that has been printed or electronically faxed.

Yea, they are computers

 

[IGIT]

“From what I’ve gathered, Michael Cohen was so cheap he didn’t invest in a cross-cut shredder, which would have made it impossible for investigators at Quantico, forensic specialists, to refabricate or reconstitute these documents,” Avenatti said. “Evidently he had a different type of shredder. They’re in the process of going through it, from what we heard in court today.”

ahoy JD,

this just goes to further illustrate what i was sayin'.

Mr. Cohen was a fixer, and didn't seem to operating under the assumption that he might be indicted or face his own criminal investigation. he doesn't seem to have very good chops as a criminal.

aye?

also, for all who suggest that he shoulda burned his documents. i can see burning a piece of paper or two. maybe even a sheaf of papers. what if he had piles and piles and piles of documents, though? like, filing cabinets full of paper?

where does one have a discreet bonfire in midtown manhattan?

- IGIT

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Let's suppose for a second I don't give Trump enough credit and he is smarter than I think. Why hire such an obviously dumb and awful lawyer?

Cause the best people and stuff

 

[mbinder]

I feel like if there really was material that was damning to Trump's presidency it would have come to light a long time ago and he'd already be gone. The guy is a complete moron, but I feel like he's going to be around for the long haul.

What the hell do I know though.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

ahoy JD,

this just goes to further illustrate what i was sayin'.

Mr. Cohen was a fixer, and didn't seem to operating under the assumption that he might be indicted or face his own criminal investigation. he doesn't seem to have very good chops as a criminal.

aye?

also, for all who suggest that he shoulda burned his documents. i can see burning a piece of paper or two. maybe even a sheaf of papers. what if he had piles and piles and piles of documents, though? like, filing cabinets full of paper?

where does one have a discreet bonfire in midtown manhattan?

- IGIT

I don't think there's any excuse for him not to have shredded his documents. He's spent all his life around the mob. He grew up in his uncle's nightclub: his uncle was in the mob and it was a mob nightclub. And aside from all the questionable stuff that has come to light that would suggest he still has mob contacts, I believe I read somewhere that his wife is the daughter of a Ukrainian mobster.

You were almost making it sound like he was a law-abiding lawyer who never expected to have to shred documents.

 

[MicroBrew]

well, I worked for an insurance company, and the company that comes to shred our documents has a similar guarantee.

I don't understand the need for companies to hire out shredding; just get a decent industrial/commercial shredder or a incinerator or wood burning stove.

 

[MicroBrew]

Not really. It's normal for office work. It's not necessarily important or incriminating stuff. Just stuff you wouldn't want the garbage man reading, or any competitors. It's also just practical. Them crumpled up papers take up room quick.

Regardless, the guy must've had one of those old school shredders from the 80's, or the feds have some real fancy equipment. I can't imagine them putting together the shit that goes through my shredder. It practically turns paper into sand.

The inexpensive shredders at the big box stores cut the paper longitudinally only, so if someone really cared to spend days/weeks piecing it all together it can be done.

 

[JadeOwl]

Let's suppose for a second I don't give Trump enough credit and he is smarter than I think. Why hire such an obviously dumb and awful lawyer?

Because a really smart, competent one would have probably wlaked away as soon as Trump started ignoring his own advice.

Also, because Trump values blind loyalty above actual competence.

 

[Andy Capp]

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/19/donald-trump-hiring-people-smarter-than-you-is-a-mistake.html

Sadly, in Trump's case that means he had to find someone really really dumb. Makes sense.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

I don't understand the need for companies to hire out shredding; just get a decent industrial/commercial shredder or a incinerator or wood burning stove.

Lol, well, I agree to an extent. In the case at both my jobs tho, they are part of our HIPPA safe guards.

Pretty much all the papers we deal with have people's personal health or financial info. Just I go through around 500 pages per day. On top of that, there are hundreds of employees, and it is a massive building. So the employees doing it would be time consuming .

Instead, at every nursing station or in each office room, there is a gray box, with a narrow slit we just put the papers in. And the third party picks it up.

Moreover, it reduces our liability, because we can blame a 3rd party, if some personal health Info was stolen

 

[MicroBrew]

Lol, well, I agree to an extent. In the case at both my jobs tho, they are part of our HIPPA safe guards.

Pretty much all the papers we deal with have people's personal health or financial info. Just I go through around 500 pages per day. On top of that, there are hundreds of employees, and it is a massive building. So the employees doing it would be time consuming .

Instead, at every nursing station or in each office room, there is a gray box, with a narrow slit we just put the papers in. And the third party picks it up.

Moreover, it reduces our liability, because we can blame a 3rd party, if some personal health Info was stolen

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That might be the main reason?

It still seems a lot of bother to store the paper until the shredding truck comes by. Would be a lot easier to just collect the paper in a central location on the premises and shred it all or incinerate it.

 

[woodguyatl]

I don't understand the need for companies to hire out shredding; just get a decent industrial/commercial shredder or a incinerator or wood burning stove.

Back in the 90's and early 2000's (then I left) my company would do an annual shredding based on how long we were legally required to keep documents. Many of those files were kept in a storage facility off site because our offices were in a Class A office space and there was no reason to store rarely used files there. If we needed to access them we could simply have them delivered to us witting a few hours. I'll never forget that in 2001 we shredded 666 full bankers boxes of files. That's over 300,000 pages that would take both a lot of time to shred and take an enormous amount of space when shredded.