Fedor strengths and weaknesses and his skillset in the UFC today (Long Thread)

If he couldn't beat a 40 year old MW-

Who could he possibly beat today?

Hell CroCop had the balls to go into sanctioned fighting and how did that go?

You mean SF Lhw champion and UFC LHW title challenger Dan Henderson?

Fedor was the full package, speed, pace, agressive striking, great grappler, granite chin.

He could have trouble with maybe Gane and Francis. But he could really beat anyone currently in the UFC. Specially those sluggish LHWs
 
Nobody considers Sylvia an elite fighter. Sorry dude, but its a fact.


He was 1-0 with a win over Cabbage in the UFC before his TS.

Randy began his mma career as a HW and won the title before Sylvia...so, yeah
Hmm, that’s weird. Because when I initially posted that example, this was you:
Decent example tho
Now it’s not a good example anymore? Interesting. :rolleyes:
The fact that I met Yellowtroll’s challenge so easily must have been bothering you for days to bring this up out of the blue. Did you lose sleep? How much?

Hendo also had wins over Nogueira and Yvel prior to fighting Fedor, that wasn’t his first win over a HW.
The troll set 3 criteria, which were:
- Against a smaller fighter coming from a lower weight class
- Against a much older fighter
- Against a fighter that is not supposed to fight anymore due to his advanced age
That was the challenge, which I easily, easily met.

Ironically, the troll’s response to me was to post the Mercer-Sylvia fight, which also meets those same 3 criteria lol. Mercer was a career HW (he weighed in at HW of 256 lbs for this fight) fighting at Super HW (Sylvia had fought at that class before even winning a Super HW title, and was 310 lbs), who was already retired from boxing, was almost 50 years old, outweighed by 54 lbs, and won by first round KO (which wasn’t one of troll boy’s original criteria, but rather one he tried to add in later after I pissed all over his challenge).
Nobody considers Sylvia an elite fighter. Sorry dude, but its a fact.


He was 1-0 with a win over Cabbage in the UFC before his TS.

Randy began his mma career as a HW and won the title before Sylvia...so, yeah
Oh my, look at this bit of dishonesty. You mean to say, “Sylvia was 1-0 in the UFC before his first TS.” Sylvia was 13-0 overall when he got that title shot, a win over Ricco Rodriguez who had become champion by submitting Randy Couture. As I’ve mentioned about a zillion times, he was a 2-time UFC champ and his second reign had 2 defenses. That reign began by beating Arlovski, then he defended against Arlovski and Monson. But sure, “nobody” considers him a great or elite fighter.
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Imagine going through all these mental gymnastics to convince yourself a guy who got ko'd by an old career MW would beat Fancis,


"...promptly dropped 3 straight...."


Yea 2 SDs against far better fighters than Babalu or Feijao.

By your own words, he had a war with Shogun then went off TRT and what??? ko'd in the first round by a LW?? nope,2 SDs against literally equal if not slightly better fighters to Shogun. Machida had just Matrix'd Bader ffs. Yea Hendo REALLY fell off a cliff smh


Hes a career MW/LHW who has KO'd one HW and is 50/50 with Shogun, Chida, and Shad---on or off TRT

Aaand more dishonesty. Fedor didn’t immediately get KOed when he started losing either, so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to pull out of your ass now. And yeah, Hendo pretty clearly fell off a cliff, only winning 1 of his next 6 fights—the one he was allowed to use TRT in. Must be a coincidence. <Lmaoo>
 
Hmm, that’s weird. Because when I initially posted that example, this was you:

Now it’s not a good example anymore? Interesting. :rolleyes:
The fact that I met Yellowtroll’s challenge so easily must have been bothering you for days to bring this up out of the blue. Did you lose sleep? How much?

Hendo also had wins over Nogueira and Yvel prior to fighting Fedor, that wasn’t his first win over a HW.
The troll set 3 criteria, which were:

That was the challenge, which I easily, easily met.

Ironically, the troll’s response to me was to post the Mercer-Sylvia fight, which also meets those same 3 criteria lol. Mercer was a career HW (he weighed in at HW of 256 lbs for this fight) fighting at Super HW (Sylvia had fought at that class before even winning a Super HW title, and was 310 lbs), who was already retired from boxing, was almost 50 years old, outweighed by 54 lbs, and won by first round KO (which wasn’t one of troll boy’s original criteria, but rather one he tried to add in later after I pissed all over his challenge).

Oh my, look at this bit of dishonesty. You mean to say, “Sylvia was 1-0 in the UFC before his first TS.” Sylvia was 13-0 overall when he got that title shot, a win over Ricco Rodriguez who had become champion by submitting Randy Couture. As I’ve mentioned about a zillion times, he was a 2-time UFC champ and his second reign had 2 defenses. That reign began by beating Arlovski, then he defended against Arlovski and Monson. But sure, “nobody” considers him a great or elite fighter.
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Aaand more dishonesty. Fedor didn’t immediately get KOed when he started losing either, so I’m not sure what point you’re trying to pull out of your ass now. And yeah, Hendo pretty clearly fell off a cliff, only winning 1 of his next 6 fights—the one he was allowed to use TRT in. Must be a coincidence. <Lmaoo>

Hendo SD lost to 18-3 Machida....at 42...off TRT


Maybe Lyoto was better than Babalu or Feijao???


What say you?


Feijao lost to Patrick Cummins and King Mo, but you wanna use him as some indicatod of mythical R
TRT Dan...lol ok dude
 
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Hendo SD lost to 18-3 Machida....at 42...off TRT


Maybe Lyoto was better than Babalu or Feijao???


What say you?


Feijao lost to Patrick Cummins and King Mo, but you wanna use him as some indicatod of mythical R
TRT Dan...lol ok dude

Feijao knocked King Mo out lol. Not only are you dishonest but also uneducated. What a little rodent lol
 
Hey @BFoe



Guess where BleacherReport had Machida ranked at LHW after he eked out a SD over post TRT , 42 year old Hendo?



Man THAT Hendo really sucked lmao
 
Hendo SD lost to 18-3 Machida....at 42...off TRT


Maybe Lyoto was better than Babalu or Feijao???


What say you?


Feijao lost to Patrick Cummins and King Mo, but you wanna use him as some indicatod of mythical R
TRT Dan...lol ok dude
As usual, you are wrong. Feijao didn’t lose to Mo, he stopped him with strikes to win the SF LHW belt. Feijao also KOed Yoel Romero in his very next fight after Hendo. The loss to Cummins came at the end of his career. What else about MMA history would you like me to teach you about today?

Also as usual, you are missing the point—which is to look at Hendo’s body of work on TRT (PRIDE MW champ, SF LHW champ, iconic KO of Bisping, iconic TKO of Fedor, legendary war with Shogun) as opposed to his body of work off of it, which was to go 2-7.

And as is typical, you didn’t address a single point I brought up but expect me to address yours. It’s always deflect, deflect, deflect; pivot, pivot, pivot; move the goalposts and then move the goalposts again…
You and the other troll have gotten repeatedly slapped around ITT. Just give up.
 
As usual, you are wrong. Feijao didn’t lose to Mo, he stopped him with strikes to win the SF LHW belt. Feijao also KOed Yoel Romero in his very next fight after Hendo. The loss to Cummins came at the end of his career. What else about MMA history would you like me to teach you about today?

Also as usual, you are missing the point—which is to look at Hendo’s body of work on TRT (PRIDE MW champ, SF LHW champ, iconic KO of Bisping, iconic TKO of Fedor, legendary war with Shogun) as opposed to his body of work off of it, which was to go 2-7.

And as is typical, you didn’t address a single point I brought up but expect me to address yours. It’s always deflect, deflect, deflect; pivot, pivot, pivot; move the goalposts and then move the goalposts again…
You and the other troll have gotten repeatedly slapped around ITT. Just give up.



Savor it boys...sacor it...i had Bader on the brain cuz he beat Feijao and got matrix'd by machida immediately before Machida SD'd Hendo



Where was Machida ranked after SDing 42 year old, post TRT Dan? I'll give you a hint---MUCH higher than Feijao or Babalu


Post TRT Hendo went to a SD with the best LHW not named Jones.

Fedor got KO'd by a guy who got dominated by Jake Shields.


Put the Pokemon cards away and stop pretending Fedor competes with Francis lol
 
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Savor it boys...sacor it...i had Bader on the brain cuz he beat Feijao and got matrix'd by machida immediately before Machida SD'd Hendo



Where was Machida ranked after SDing 42 year old, post TRT Dan? I'll give you a hint---MUCH higher than Feijao or Babalu


Post TRT Hendo went to a SD with the best LHW not named Jones.
Oh boy, another pivot and deflection? Can’t wait. You’re like a little child: “Daddy, look at me! Daddy, watch this!”
Ok son, I guess I did ask you what else you wanted to learn about MMA history.

After beating Fedor, TRT Hendo had his legendary war with Shogun. After that win, Hendo was the #1 contender. Off TRT, Hendo lost to Machida, whereupon Machida took his ranking—as is customary. That ranking was one he held from the TRT days.

But I can’t wait to see where this goes, so make your point. I’m shivering with
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Stalwarts Fedor fought between Nog 1 and Werdum:

Nagata, Zulu, Ogawa, Lindland, HMC...5 absolute squash matches for the "World's Best HW" in the middle of his ansolute fuckin prime..



Can you guys imagine Francis vs Minowaman???



How bout Blaydes vs Del Rio???



C'mon guys...you're friggin adults
 
UFC"Openweight" Tourney


Curtis Blaydes vs Belal Muhammad


Takes a special combo of low iq plus hero worship to give a HW credit for fighting "Openweight"
 
Fedor was robbed of a potential career elevating fight against Nog or Barnett in lieu of fullfilling a goofy tourney obligation vs lucky can randleman
 
Oh boy, another pivot and deflection? Can’t wait. You’re like a little child: “Daddy, look at me! Daddy, watch this!”
Ok son, I guess I did ask you what else you wanted to learn about MMA history.

After beating Fedor, TRT Hendo had his legendary war with Shogun. After that win, Hendo was the #1 contender. Off TRT, Hendo lost to Machida, whereupon Machida took his ranking—as is customary. That ranking was one he held from the TRT days.

But I can’t wait to see where this goes, so make your point. I’m shivering with
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I'm not pivoting. I mistakenly thought Feijao lost to Mo.
 
I'm not pivoting. I mistakenly thought Feijao lost to Mo.
I was referring to bringing up Lyoto’s ranking. I’ll just bet you were going to try and make the point that Lyoto was ranked very highly after beating “off-TRT Hendo,” when in fact he just took Hendo’s already-existing ranking, which Hendo already had precisely because of what he accomplished on TRT, thereby actually making my whole point for me. Weren’t you? <Wink2>
 
I'm talking about when he left the UFC and then went on a win streak and then came back and popped for HGH after the Gonzaga rematch.

You still had guys failing for roids in the US at that time. Who was failing in Japan?
Technically he admitted that he used HGH without testing positive. USADA has never caught any athlete for HGH use because it’s basically impossible to test for.
 
You mean SF Lhw champion and UFC LHW title challenger Dan Henderson?

Fedor was the full package, speed, pace, agressive striking, great grappler, granite chin.

He could have trouble with maybe Gane and Francis. But he could really beat anyone currently in the UFC. Specially those sluggish LHWs
Anyone who says 'couldn't beat a 40 yo MW' is trolling or just stupid. It's the multiple weight champion legend Dan Henderson. I agree with you but I think that guy is just deliberately being a dick. 40 yo MW... what a clown.
 
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