Fedor strengths and weaknesses and his skillset in the UFC today (Long Thread)

textwarrior said:
MMA fighters

I think he would be just as good if we took him from his time, but if he was raised up in this time, he would be a better version of himself like any goat would be...same goes for JJ, GSP, AS.

When Fedor was in his prime, On the one hand sherdoggers were saying he was not that good, on the hand, Bas, UFC, and many UFC fighters were recognizing him as goat. I think he would have been a better version of himself today.....his hip speed, hand speed, timing, reaction, and flow ability was something else....it was stuff you could not teach thats why we don't see that all the time.
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Agree, good take. He wouldve def wrestled better if he evolved in a more recent era, also he would've been better adjusted to a cage.
 
Super Grover said:
Right because muscle mass and strength is the same as peak athleticism. That whole article is about strength training to stay healthy as you get old. It has zero to do with athletic performance. Are you kidding me with this shit?

For Athletes' Peak Performance, Age Is Everything

French researchers have found that athletes' peak performance actually follows a rigid physiological law. Generally, most enter their athletic prime somewhere between 20 and 30, before undergoing an "irreversible" decline. (They even pinpoint when chess grandmasters start going over the hill.)

Athletic performance obviously decreases as people get older and their bodies wear down physically, but new data compiled by French researchers sheds new light on exactly when these declines might start showing up, at least in some sporting disciplines.

The careers of more than 1,150 swimmers and track-and-field athletes, as well as the accomplishments of nearly a hundred chess grandmasters, were scrutinized based on the event they were participating in, as well as their age and how old they were when they established any world records. In all, more than 11,200 performances among these athletes made it into the data set, and the results confirm that there reaches an age – a physiological tipping point, if you will – when athletes start to experience an irreversible downturn in their abilities.

Generally speaking, athletes start to see physical declines at age 26, give or take. (This would seem in line with the long-standing notion in baseball that players tend to hit their peak anywhere from ages 27 to 30.) For swimmers, the news is more sobering, as the mean peak age is 21. For chess grandmasters, participating in an activity that relies more than mental acuity and sharpness rather than brute, acquired physicality, the peak age is closer to 31.4.

For setting world records in a given athletic discipline, the mean age is 26.1, so all you sports-minded thirty-somethings hoping to still see your name published in the Guinness Book may have already missed your mark.

https://www.wired.com/2011/07/athletes-peak-age/

The question of when an athlete hits their peak has been much debated for many years because there are examples of elite and amateur competitors enjoying the most successful periods of their careers at each end of the spectrum and everywhere in between.
Knowing when that might be can be useful in developing long-term training strategies.
There are, however, various sources of well-researched data available that points to common points in life when best results are generally achieved.

A review carried out in New Zealand that was published back in 2015, for example, explored a huge amount of estimates about the age at which elite athletes peak, and asserted ages for a number of different disciplines in swimming and athletics.

For sprints, jumps, and throws, men and women hit their peak around 25 years of age while triathletes peak at 27.

The longest endurance events profiled an older age though, with marathoners peaking at 30 and 29 for men and women respectively while Ironman athletes hit their prime even older at 32 and 34.

https://builtforathletes.com/blogs/news/what-age-do-athletes-peak


https://cepar.edu.au/sites/default/files/peak-performance-age-sport.pdf
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Took you a while to Google something that agrees with you, but unfortunately many others have been posting that same shit for years, and they, too, are unable to distinguish event-based peak individual performance from physical prime. They are not the same.

"Although men have more muscle mass than women, both sexes reach their physical peak as young adults or anywhere from their late 20's to early 30's, according to “Human Development: A Life-Span View” by Robert Kail and John Cavanaugh."

https://livehealthy.chron.com/men-women-reach-physical-peak-2652.html

Late 20s to early 30s, son. This is biological science. "Prime" is when your body is at its most developed, not when you have the most success. It's an age thing. The human brain isn't even fully developed until 25, and is not at its peak performance until much later. I'm guessing you're under 25 years of age?

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The Fedor haters in this thread are so pathetic and desperate. They demonstrate the behavior of someone who has never trained and never competed in any sports.

No idea of what an athletic peak is and how that differs from a "physical prime" They're so hell bent on hating Fedor that they won't let something like logic get in their way.

You have two clowns in this thread @MartinGibson86 and @Fioretti who claim that guys like JDS, Cain, Shogun, Aldo and Sugar Ray Leonard were still in their prime at 34 years old even though their performance evidently suffered and they looked like a shell of their former selves by that age. Sugar Ray Leonard never won another fight after turning 33 years old but these clowns will tell you he was still in his prime JUST to diminish Fedor. Pathetic clown like behavior.

It's like they jusr can't accept that there was an athlete 20 years ago that was better and more skilled than anyone in the UFC is today.

It would he the same as someone who couldn't accept that there isn't anyone in the NBA today with the physical of Shaquille O'Neal in the 90s. It would be like some clown trying ro tell you that baseball is so evolved that today's hitters are vastly better than Ken Griffey Jr from the 90s. They can't accept the fact there is such a thing as a once in a century athlete which transcends eras and there have been examples of such athletes in literally every sport.

These clowns are so butthurt that the UFC HW division hasn't had someone like this yet that they spend hours online trying to diminish Fedor.

Pathetic, basement dwelling clown like behavior. I've never in my life seen a true athlete or true athlete hate on Fedor. GSP says Fedor is the GOAT. Aldo says Fedor is the GOAT. Tyson says Fedor is the GOAT. Jon Jones says Fedor belongs on the Mount Rushmore of MMA.

Basement dwelling clowns in sherdog who have never trained and never played any sports say Fedor wasn't special and was still in his prime at 34 years old.

Such Pathetic behavior lol
 
Can’t Handle My Riddum said:
This was within the first 25 replies. Mild, yes but you could see your decline begin early. The more people challenged your views on Fedor, the more you declined and spiraled out of control to the point where you were projecting the term "autist" onto anyone who disagreed.

It's been the funniest tantrum I've seen on Sherdog in 2022, so thanks for the comedy. I mean it.
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Do you really think I care about what some ramdom velcro shoe wearing serial killer from the internet thinks? You have made your point that you've been amused and "entertained" by this thread in seeking disruptive troll posts and contributing nothing. Literally nobody cares. You can go back to your regular Jeffery Dahmer activities now, clown.
 
Fioretti said:
Took you a while to Google something that agrees with you, but unfortunately many others have been posting that same shit for years, and they, too, are unable to distinguish event-based peak individual performance from physical prime. They are not the same.

"Although men have more muscle mass than women, both sexes reach their physical peak as young adults or anywhere from their late 20's to early 30's, according to “Human Development: A Life-Span View” by Robert Kail and John Cavanaugh."

https://livehealthy.chron.com/men-women-reach-physical-peak-2652.html

Late 20s to early 30s, son. This is biological science. "Prime" is when your body is at its most developed, not when you have the most success. It's an age thing. The human brain isn't even fully developed until 25, and is not at its peak performance until much later. I'm guessing you're under 25 years of age?

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So based on this couch dweller logic how would you explain Sugar Ray Leonard never winning another fight after turning 33? Was it because he was overrated?

How would you explain JDS and Cain being completely washed up at 34? Was it because they were never good?

How would you explain Shogun being completely shot at 34? Was it because he was never good?

It's pretty clear that you don't understand what an athletic peak is and how it's not fully determined by chronological age. This is usually the perspective of someone who has never played any sports or trained in martial arts. Just reading Stats off a paper. Smh. What a clown lol
 
The only ones that won't agree with this are the ones that got tired of hearing about his reign while it was happening. Fedor is my favourite of all time but I get why people shit on him, there are basketball fans that don't like Jordan, is normal.
 
chaos_36 said:
The only ones that won't agree with this are the ones that got tired of hearing about his reign while it was happening. Fedor is my favourite of all time but I get why people shit on him, there are basketball fans that don't like Jordan, is normal.
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Which Basketball fans dislike Jordan? Wtf?
 
The Last King said:
Do you really think I care about what some ramdom velcro shoe wearing serial killer from the internet thinks? You have made your point that you've been amused and "entertained" by this thread in seeking disruptive troll posts and contributing nothing. Literally nobody cares. You can go back to your regular Jeffery Dahmer activities now, clown.
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You don't disappoint. You are the gift that keeps on giving.
 
The Last King said:
So based on this couch dweller logic how would you explain Sugar Ray Leonard never winning another fight after turning 33? Was it because he was overrated?

How would you explain JDS and Cain being completely washed up at 34? Was it because they were never good?

How would you explain Shogun being completely shot at 34? Was it because he was never good?

It's pretty clear that you don't understand what an athletic peak is and how it's not fully determined by chronological age. This is usually the perspective of someone who has never played any sports or trained in martial arts. Just reading Stats off a paper. Smh. What a clown lol
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JDS and Cain were both top 10 until age 37. When a fighter loses, it doesn't mean he's out of his prime.

You're too in love with your boy to realize I've been saying that individual peak performance and prime are two different things the entire time. I'm glad you have now admitted defeat and will accept this fact. Thanks, bud. Message me on your next account.
 
Always nice to check in and see Florini still floundering like a five year old.

“Physical prime is an absolute and has nothing to do with the activity”

“MMA is an endurance sport”

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Florini bless. I’m sure the comedy will still be going strong when he’s on Christmas vacation from elementary school and eating pop tarts all day. Enjoy, lads.
 
Sweater of AV said:
Always nice to check in and see Florini still floundering like a five year old.

“Physical prime is an absolute and has nothing to do with the activity”

“MMA is an endurance sport”

<36>

Florini bless. I’m sure the comedy will still be going strong when he’s on Christmas vacation from elementary school and eating pop tarts all day. Enjoy, lads.
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Much better than reading a bunch of hero worshipping nerds make excuses as to why Fedor went to cimplete shit at 33..at the slowest, shallowest weight...after 6 tears of FULL mma.

"Derrr ten years...all that wear and tear"


Mind you, Fedor is STILL fighting.
 
Volk---10 years in, 34 years old...current P4Pnumber 1

Wonderboy---12 years in...39...currently top 10

Robbie---won UFC title 13 years into his career

Mighty Mouse---16 years in...36 years old...arguable number 1 at fastest paced weight


Figgy---10 years in...34...ufc champ at fastest weight


you cultists want me to keep going??? lmao
 
MartinGibson86 said:
Volk---10 years in, 34 years old...current P4Pnumber 1

Wonderboy---12 years in...39...currently top 10

Robbie---won UFC title 13 years into his career

Mighty Mouse---16 years in...36 years old...arguable number 1 at fastest paced weight


Figgy---10 years in...34...ufc champ at fastest weight


you cultists want me to keep going??? lmao
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None of those are heavyweights.
 
Reffson said:
Anybody with a brain can see how fast Fedor was back then, but a lot of posters here are dumb as shit.
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Honestly you have to take your cap off to the UFC they've done a really good job in creating a fanbase that think they know something about MMA but in reality just burp up whatever hype the UFC have just fed them.

Its why opinions on fighters tend to shift so massively with results as UFC hype obviously changes with that and much of the fanbase are totally ruled by it.
 
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