Fedor strengths and weaknesses and his skillset in the UFC today (Long Thread)

GOATtalks said:
He’s definitely a better wrestler than people give him credit for
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Its not a big surprise that he got taken down by Francis and was a tortoise henceforth.
 
cmw43 said:
He had a knee reconstruction between the OWGP and his UFC debut, most guys never come back the same from that, especially an explosive kicker like Mirko.

Look at his movement here, his knees were too shot to move like this in UFC. You don't see any UFC heavies moving like this today.

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Except that he did come back. Just not in the UFC. His poor performances are due to injuries. Won a K1 kicking boxing grand prix belt almost a year afterwards. Fought maybe 7 times in that year. After that stint in kickboxing, he went back to MMA and joined a smaller promotion as their champion. He tried to come back to the UFC one more time and fought untested because it was in Poland. He retired after that because he got suspended for admitting to growth hormone use for a major injury. He mounted another MMA comeback within 6 months and won another Japanese grand prix in a promotion that is spiritual successor of Pride.

I am writing all this because this guy keeps getting injured with major injuries but he apparently heals from them quite fast. I wonder what is helping him do that so fast?
 
NoSmilez said:
I am writing all this because this guy keeps getting injured with major injuries but he apparently heals from them quite fast. I wonder what is helping him do that so fast?
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Posna Juha
 
NoSmilez said:
Except that he did come back. Just not in the UFC. His poor performances are due to injuries. Won a K1 kicking boxing grand prix belt almost a year afterwards. Fought maybe 7 times in that year. After that stint in kickboxing, he went back to MMA and joined a smaller promotion as their champion. He tried to come back to the UFC one more time and fought untested because it was in Poland. He retired after that because he got suspended for admitting to growth hormone use for a major injury. He mounted another MMA comeback within 6 months and won another Japanese grand prix in a promotion that is spiritual successor of Pride.

I am writing all this because this guy keeps getting injured with major injuries but he apparently heals from them quite fast. I wonder what is helping him do that so fast?
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Its a shame Anderson lost to a Youtuber, to think this guy talked about fighting RJJ, what a fraud.
 
moreorless87 said:
Its a shame Anderson lost to a Youtuber, to think this guy talked about fighting RJJ, what a fraud.
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I remember the boxing press being very pissed off at the thought of this fight,in the same way MMA fans are about Jake Paul now.
 
HHJ said:
Its not a big surprise that he got taken down by Francis and was a tortoise henceforth.
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I like how you skip the parts of my post, that prove you wrong and just focus on tiny bits you can grab on. It just further proves that your losing an argument.

Gane wasn’t a tortoise though. He had 3 submission attempts, got back a few times, didn’t get finished, took Francis down and controlled him for a good bit as well. Once again, you’re wrong.

Just from curiosity, how would you describe the ground game of Fedor vs Hunt? 2 half dead walruses mating? Lol
 
I got no horse in it but Francis can defend a takedown a little. He hired Latifi as a training for his Stipe camp. If you have Latifi trying to take you down and lay on you for a few months. You will somewhat get a little better at wrestling. I think Francis can stop most takedowns from the division due to physicality and rudimentary technique but not against guys who know how to really wrestle.
 
NoSmilez said:
I got no horse in it but Francis can defend a takedown a little. He hired Latifi as a training for his Stipe camp. If you have Latifi trying to take you down and lay on you for a few months. You will somewhat get a little better at wrestling. I think Francis can stop most takedowns from the division due to physicality and rudimentary technique but not guys who know how to really wrestle.
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So you think Stipe doesn’t really know how to wrestle?
 
GOATtalks said:
So you think Stipe doesn’t really know how to wrestle?
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What are Stipe's accolades in wrestling besides being part of a D1 team over 20 years ago? He wasn't a starter as a freshman, sophomore he made the starting lineup, junior year was mixed results and he quit senior year to focus on baseball. He was doing baseball and wrestling at the same time. Stipe was part of the wrestling team but he didn't win anything. He was an amazing athlete to do both sports at the same time. Stipe also has barely any training partners. His grappling training partner for the longest time was that really heavy set cop that was always with him. Stipe got so far in the sport without a super team.
 
NoSmilez said:
What are Stipe's accolades in wrestling besides being part of a D1 team over 20 years ago? He wasn't a starter as a freshman, sophomore he made the starting lineup, junior year was mixed results and he quit senior year to focus on baseball. He was doing baseball and wrestling at the same time. Stipe was part of the wrestling team but he didn't win anything. He was an amazing athlete to do both sports at the same time. Stipe also has barely any training partners. His grappling training partner for the longest time was that really heavy set cop that was always with him. Stipe got so far in the sport without a super team.
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Lol, another dumbass.

Gaethje has amazing wrestling accolades, but can’t do shit with them in MMA.

GSP had no wrestling pedigree, but he’s considered as one of the best MMA wrestlers of all time.

Stipe was a D1 wrestler and he outgrappled DC. What else does he has to do, to be considered a great wrestler in MMA? Lol
 
Striker Fox said:
You mean like Stipe Miocic before he became a washed 40 year old during the DC trilogy?

Ngannou 2.0 is a myth. Guy ran into a clearly washed 40 year old Stipe, and if a prime Stipe fought him today it'd be the same result as the first fight.
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lol, no matter how much people train a particular aspect of MMA nobody ever improves at anything.
 
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