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Media Fedor Emelianenko Resumé Review

OneOfOne said:
An old broken down CC held his own against prime JDS. Non-Uber Overeem has been ko'd by damn near everyone. Nog beat a prime Werdum. And 40 yr old DC just came off of back surgery.
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Nog beat buttscoot Werdum, don't be an idiot. That guy still had afailed ufc stint in his future.
Reem had won 6 in a row and then his next 2. He was on a 16-3 run when he fought Stipe.



But Randleman was a good win for Fedor, right?

old broken down crocop was all of 35 and fought another 17 times over 10 years after JDS---and jds beat the crap out of him and made him quit lol
 
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MartinGibson86 said:
Nog beat buttscoot Werdum, don't be an idiot. That guy still had afailed ufc stint in his future.
Reem had won 6 in a row and then his next 2. He was on a 16-3 run.


But Randleman was a good win, right?
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Randleman was coming off a KO win over #2-3 ranked Mirko when Fedor fought him. Similar to Randy fighting Gonzaga after Gonzaga KOd cop. Great win for Fedor and Randy.
 
Midget Boxer said:
Lmfao you two ladies. Prime Fedor finishes stipe under 3 minutes. That's your goat HW...stipe.
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You can post ad-hominem, hyperbole, and make believe fantasy predictions all you want, but I'll keep posting facts.

3-3 the first time he faced 6 top guys in a row. 2 of the 6 barely qualified, and he still went 50%. Weird.
 
MartinGibson86 said:
Nog beat buttscoot Werdum, don't be an idiot. That guy still had afailed ufc stint in his future.
Reem had won 6 in a row and then his next 2. He was on a 16-3 run.


But Randleman was a good win, right?
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I might be more impressed with a win over Alistair Overeem if I hadn't seen 11 or 12 other guys ko him already. And he was on 4 fight win streak against other old and broken down fighters.

If were counting wins against 40 yr old Werdum then were definitely counting wins against a young Werdum. Werdum was in the top 10 when Nog beat him btw.

Randleman was a respectable win but not anything to brag about. Kind of like Miocic's whole career.
 
MartinGibson86 said:
old broken down crocop was all of 35 and fought another 17 times over 10 years after JDS---and jds beat the crap out of him and made him quit lol
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You're talking about a 35yr old, injury riddled, noticably decling CC about 60 fights into his fighting career. He took on peak JDS went toe to toe with him for 3 rounds.

Meanwhile Stipe couldn't handle post-Cain JDS in his prime. I can only imagine what a prime JDS would do to an old Stipe. He would DECAPITATE him.
 
Diamondsareforever47 said:
Nog was not but I cannot talk to you objectively about his skillset as you have rose colored glasses on. You refuse to see reality that the masses can see and you HAVE to play up Nogs skillset as if a similar style fighter would at all be relevant or high level beyond 2012. Which they would NOT be! I swear most Fedor hardcore fans do the same thing. Ill give you Arlovski and later Cro Cop being beasts but Nog was never an athletic beast or strong or a good striker or a good wrestler....

Second of all Sylvia was far less well rounded than the top 5 Stipe wins. That was my original point if you checked who I replied to we were talking about the top 5 wins for each fighter and how they compare. Sylvia is an inferior striker to Derrick Lewis and Tai Tuvasa I mean especially to Tai. Tai has kickboxing and boxing resumes that are decent and has a good far better MMA KO resume and wins then the Maniac who was KOd by Mercer and lost to cans.

Third Arlovski is not a top 5 GOAT and that is what I was talking about originally. Maybe not even top 10 lets think who deserves to be above him

Fedor
Ngannou
Cain
Cormier
Stipe
Werdum
Overeem
Dos Santos
Mir?
Arlovski?

I guess he makes top 10.

Fourth- you are overly emotional and petty. The insults are amusing that you throw and so how triggered and small you are.
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Ok, lets take a look at Stipe's best wins.

Mark Hunt - 41yrs old. MMA Record of 10-10. Fedor beat a younger, superior version of this same fighter 9yrs earlier.

Andrei Arlovski - 37yrs old. 7 losses by KO. A younger, superior version of himself had already been ko'd by lol Tim years earlier.

Fabricio Werdum - 39yrs old. Lost to 1 dimensional Nog years earlier.

JDS - Post-Cain beatings and Overeem KO. Decent version of himself but noticeably declined.

Alistair Overeem - 36yrs old. Non-Uber. 11 KO losses on his record. People forget that Overeem fought in the same era and same org as Nog, Fedor, and CC. He was ko'd by nearly everyone he fought including Nog's little brother. He also lost to fighters Nog beat.

Francis Ngannou - Still green but still a great win for Stipe.

Daniel Cormier 2&3 - 40/41yrs old. Post back surgery. Noticably declined. Immediately retired afterward.

If were going to be completely fair to Stipe you could say he has a solid resume with a good number of respectable, quality wins. But its also true that he never...not once...beat a good fighter in their prime. That's a pretty damning and sobering fact for the pro-Stipe guys which is why they won't acknowledge it.

Furthermore most of the quality wins Stipe does have were beaten years earlier by the same guys you consider unskilled and unimpressive. "Lol Tim" was actually a skilled and very dangerous striker in his prime. He could definitely compete with most of the guys from Stipe's era considering most of them were from his own era anyway. To say Tim was an inferior striker to guys like Derrick Lewis and Tuvasa is just a plain bad take. Nog, at his best, had pretty decent striking, good wrestling, great submissions, and the best chin & heart in the game. He too could have held his own against the old guys Stipe fought. Of course he would struggle against prime Cain, JDS, Cormier, and Ngannou but then again so did Stipe.
 
The Last King said:
Hendo didn't step into the cage as a MW when he fought Fedor you imbecile. He was the LHW champion of Strikeforce.

Coming into the Fedor fight Hendo beat LHW Babalu who had just beaten Lawler, knocked out LHW champion Feijao who had just knocked out King Mo and Romero, then knocked out Fedor who was a LHW frame fighting at HW, then Hendo went to the UFC to beat up Shogun and get a title shot against LHW champion Jones.

That's not a MW you intellectually dishonest clown. Fedor and Hendo both have the frame of a LHW and when they face off anyone who isn't a moron can recognize this.

Clowns like you paint it like tiny MW Hendo beat the Ngannou sized HW Fedor when really they were the same size. This kind of misinformation is designed to make Fedor look bad - when in reality it just exposes your stupidity and dishonesty. But that's expected from a dork with a Mortal Kombat av.
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Diamondsareforever47 said:
Yeah but you really think Tim Sylvia and Nog represent the peak of MMA? Talk about unathletic and 1 dimesional. Cro Cop later evolved so I cannot call him 1 dimesional and Arlovski is not listed but he had several peaks but cannot be called an all time great.
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It’s all opinionated but a lot of peopke have Nog & CroCop both in their top 5 (and sometimes top 10) heavyweights of all time.

The fact fighters like Arlovski, Nog, Overeem, Barnett, Werdum, Hunt, Mir stay around as long as they when the newer generation came in shows just how great they were tbh.
 
OneOfOne said:
Ok, lets take a look at Stipe's best wins.

Mark Hunt - 41yrs old. MMA Record of 10-10. Fedor beat a younger, superior version of this same fighter 9yrs earlier.

Andrei Arlovski - 37yrs old. 7 losses by KO. A younger, superior version of himself had already been ko'd by lol Tim years earlier.

Fabricio Werdum - 39yrs old. Lost to 1 dimensional Nog years earlier.

JDS - Post-Cain beatings and Overeem KO. Decent version of himself but noticeably declined.

Alistair Overeem - 36yrs old. Non-Uber. 11 KO losses on his record. People forget that Overeem fought in the same era and same org as Nog, Fedor, and CC. He was ko'd by nearly everyone he fought including Nog's little brother. He also lost to fighters Nog beat.

Francis Ngannou - Still green but still a great win for Stipe.

Daniel Cormier 2&3 - 40/41yrs old. Post back surgery. Noticably declined. Immediately retired afterward.

If were going to be completely fair to Stipe you could say he has a solid resume with a good number of respectable, quality wins. But its also true that he never...not once...beat a good fighter in their prime. That's a pretty damning and sobering fact for the pro-Stipe guys which is why they won't acknowledge it.

Furthermore most of the quality wins Stipe does have were beaten years earlier by the same guys you consider unskilled and unimpressive. "Lol Tim" was actually a skilled and very dangerous striker in his prime. He could definitely compete with most of the guys from Stipe's era considering most of them were from his own era anyway. To say Tim was an inferior striker to guys like Derrick Lewis and Tuvasa is just a plain bad take. Nog, at his best, had pretty decent striking, good wrestling, great submissions, and the best chin & heart in the game. He too could have held his own against the old guys Stipe fought. Of course he would struggle against prime Cain, JDS, Cormier, and Ngannou but then again so did Stipe.
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Fedor > Stipe
 
I still consider Fedor one of the GOAT and think he’s still in the argument for #1

One of the crappy things about Fedor never fighting in the current top organization means his history is getting kind of swept under the rug as time passes by. If you’d ask a fan who started watch in like 2012 for example what their opinion of Fedor is they’d probably not even consider him in the conversation for HW GOAT and GOAT in general. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of people who started watching in the last 10 years don’t even know who he is or just know of him due to Bellator

You rarely see Fedor mentioned as much by fighters too. Think tons of people still hold him in high regard but are less and less vocal about him. When Stipe started racking up title defenses lot of people were talking about him being HW GOAT and I don’t recall really any non-Russian UFC fighters bringing up Fedor which also means in the media he’s less brought up as well
 
Rajon Rondo said:
I seen a bunch of sherdoggers claim Fedor's decline started around 2008 when he had his first sambo loss and looked beatable against Arlovski in 2009. Others said the game caught up to him. Whatever the reason is, I found two articles explaining why the decline in his performances was caused by TV and movie appearances

Heres one article covering his first sambo loss in 2008.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mm...oses-at-2008-world-combat-sambo-championships

And this is what is says: "Fedor was still in Thailand as recently as two weeks ago and has also been making the rounds as Affliction's media darling, promoting the upcoming reality series "Fighting Fedor"

The next piece makes the same type of claim after the Arlovski win, Fedor's own head coach pretty much said he got distracted by doing movies and TV shows and he has to stop starring in them he wants to keep winning.

https://www.si.com/mma/2009/06/09/fedor-training

His head coach saying this:
"If he wants to keep winning, he can't be spending too much time on these commercials and these movies," he said. "Afterwards, after the win. For a fighter, the most important thing is work, work, work. Fedor wants to keep winning, and keep winning well. He needs to train professionally."

My take on this is Fedor got drunk off the Hollywood celebrity treatment he got in America after pride being folded in Japan. He forgot what it meant to be a winning fighter.

What do you guys think?
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Debunking some garbage. Hope this debunks the narratives
 
He really missed his calling
Fedoor seems made for SlapFighting
 
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