Federal court strikes down Hawaii

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Great win here in our 50th state for the Second Amendment. However as this case was not NRA or SAF back one must ask what attorney would work years unpaid in order to take this matter to the Ninth Circuit of Appeals in order to prevail.



http://www.guns.com/2014/03/21/aloh...-hawaiis-may-issue-practice-unconstitutional/


In a decision released Thursday by the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, in the case of Baker v. Kealoha, the court followed the lead of the recent Peruta case to declare Hawaii’s restrictions on firearms carry unconstitutional under the Second Amendment.

The case was heard by the same trio of judges who sat on the earlier Peruta and Richards cases in California, which challenged the state’s restrictive ‘may issue’ policies that required concealed carry permit applicants to show “good cause” to warrant a permit. The judges, Diarmuid O’Scannlain, Sidney Thomas and Consuelo Callahan, heard Baker in December 2013 and issued their findings Thursday.

“In Peruta, we concluded that the Second Amendment provides a responsible, law-abiding citizen with the right to carry an operable handgun outside the home for the purpose of self-defense,” wrote O’Scannlain for the two-judge majority decision in a memorandum.

“In light of our holding in Peruta, the district court made an error of law when it concluded that the Hawaii statutes did not implicate protected Second Amendment activity.”

Thomas, who also dissented on the Peruta case, chose to do so on the Baker decision as well, citing that the Hawaii case came to the 9th Circuit via a different procedural process than its predecessor. He also noted that, “there is simply no justification for a broadside interference with state law enforcement” by the court.

Hawaii has some of the strictest concealed carry laws in the country. In 2012, just four private citizens applied for a concealed carry license in the city and county of Honolulu, while one applied in Maui County, and all five were denied at the discretion of the respective county police chief.

This case is one of plaintiff Christopher Baker, a resident of Honolulu County who applied for and was denied a concealed carry permit by the Honolulu Police Chief without reason or explanation.

Baker then filed suit against Chief of Police Louis Kealoha for denial of his Second Amendment rights. The case was denied by a district court and then appealed to the 9th U.S. Circuit, who issued its findings Thursday. Baker was represented by Hawaii based attorneys Richard Holcomb and Alan Beck.
 
Thanks man this really was so much work and being that I was a year into law a really big risk. But the two gun lobbies refused to come and someone had to.
 
I remember you working this case for well over a year, maybe longer.

Congrats man, I'm glad to see fellow sherdog members representing the masses. Big win, time to celebrate.

If we could get some more details on how you represented this case and maybe some feedback from zankuo or panamerican I think everyone would be more enlightened by this.

Having been a Ron Paul volunteer for the 2008 and 2012 elections I'm now in talks with leading Rand Paul's 2016 in my state of west virginia.

Could definitely use more people like you, in your home state.
 
Congratulations and a job well done!!

Where does it go from here, I know the state is not going to give up.

Maybe the NRA will step up now you got it this far, at least I hope you get some support and you should.
 
Nice going, and good to see you're still here. I thought we'd lost you.
 
Congrats. Winning an appellate matter is awesome.
 
Much respect to you sir. Talking is easy...backing up your words with action and conviction is much harder. Congrats on a job well done.
 
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Cases like this is why I understand the NRA's "fight any legislation" mantra.

Cause I really do believe there's a general group of anti-gun advocates that wish to have the second amendment abolished completely and continue to lobby for stricter gun laws with that ultimate goal in mind.

It's obvious that Hawaii government was using this law to deny handgun registrations by blanket denial of applications. This isn't even about the dreaded "assault weapons" which i felt all along was just a crisis excuse for new gun legislation.

I'm not a NRA member nor do i own a gun. But in the future i do wish to have the right to own one if i feel my area becomes crime ridden and would warrent neccessary self protection. I never felt the police could ever protect the populace as they'd like you to believe. A majority of the time they show up just in time to write a report and unfurl the crime tape.
 
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Congrats. Winning an appellate matter is awesome.

Thank you everyone.

Hey Panamerican or anyone else that knows. If this goes en banc how long does it take for the Court to make a decision on en banc assuming if it is accepted?

For everyone else Hawaii has three choices let this drop back down to the lower court, ask for a en banc review which means a new ruling by the appeals Court by 11 randomly selected judges, and to petition the Supreme Court.

I've got another case on appeal waiting arguments so I am hoping they let this go back down.
 
the 9th is going to make CA and HI shall issue, and if they don't SCOTUS will. The east coast is hoping the 9th doesn't over-rule itself, becasue if SCOTUS ends the ridiculous "may issue" practice, states like NY, NJ, MA, RI, DC, and all the other anti-Rights states will have to comply.
 
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