Crime FDA's top vaccine scientist, Dr. Peter Marks, is out

[Cid]

( Many people can’t imagine a world where the FDA doesn’t have a monopoly on drug approval. Yet there will always be a market for drug safety and efficacy information. Ending the agency’s monopoly will allow innovation and competition into that space, benefiting everyone—even former FDA bureaucrats. )
It’s just another form of organized crime except they run the country they control it which is scary .

https://www.cato.org/commentary/abolish-fda

Well if the Cato institute says so...

 

[Deorum]

Whole lot of “RFK bad” ITT without ever having heard of this guy before

Not only have they never heard of him, but they're undoubtedly unaware that Marks himself forced out long serving FDA vaccine researchers in 2021 for saying there was insufficient evidence to push COVID boosters on the general population. That was the professional opinion of Marion Gruber, then Director of the FDA's Vaccines Research & Review office and a 32-year veteran of the agency.

 

[cincymma79]

Jesus.

Any of you tards wanna get in here and defend this? Or are we gonna avoid this one just like the Signal thread?

I remember just last week when you guys were all talking about this man in glowing terms….oh wait you never heard of him until this story and are rushing in to see who can set the bar for being offended.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- I thought US would get smart, as pro-wrestling grew to the deserving title of the dominant sports. But attitudes like this show me why i shondt get surprised when barelly sentient idiots say that the guys playing at a national sport aka NFL, are the greatest athletes in the world.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Not only have they never heard of him, but they're undoubtedly unaware that Marks himself forced out long serving FDA vaccine researchers in 2021 for saying there was insufficient evidence to push COVID boosters on the general population. That was the professional opinion of Marion Gruber, then Director of the FDA's Vaccines Research & Review office and a 32-year veteran of the agency.

It’s all so tiresome

 

[Sinister]

RnD is still a thing, and it sometimes costs billions of dollars to get a specific medicine right, and there isn't an unlimited fund for that.

That still doesn't excuse the price gouging for diabetes, cancer, etc. meds, which have been around for ages. It's a racket that Republicans are fighting insulin price caps.

Most RnD is done in the University system. It had a cost, but it's nowhere near what the companies advertist. In fact, most of their budget is spent on advertising and marketing. AOC and Katie Porter have some of their most famous clips from Committee hearing where they're grilling pharmaceutical executives over this, how the taxpayers fund RnD only to be gouged for the price of the products their money produced. The executices offered nothing in response.

 

[badascan]

Probably a great move. If this guy had anything to do with the flunatic juice or what was previously a "flu shot" then GTFO...

 

[Deorum]

Most RnD is done in the University system. It had a cost, but it's nowhere near what the companies advertist. In fact, most of their budget is spent on advertising and marketing. AOC and Katie Porter have some of their most famous clips from Committee hearing where they're grilling pharmaceutical executives over this, how the taxpayers fund RnD only to be gouged for the price of the products their money produced. The executices offered nothing in response.

Yeah, Pharma Corps hardly do R&D. It's quite rare that they will ever explain the mechanisms for disease, develop therapy strategies, validate drug targets, or even identify the prototypes. The majority of that is publicly funded research carried out at academic institutions and government labs. The IP is transferred to the private sector for development and the bulk of Big Pharma's "R&D costs" often to used to justify their despicable, exorbitant price gouging and discriminatory practices consist mostly of conducting the preclinical and clinical research, gaining regulatory approval to commercialize the NME and establishing manufacturing, control, and distribution nodes. Such magnificent "innovations" in the marketing department with their shitty ass commercials though. What a fucking scam.

 

[HockeyBjj]

RFK suggests to drink water on hot days.

People drown in the lake. Sherdog " deaths due to water skyrocket as RFKs dangerous theories spread ".

So since you can’t defend him, you have to make up an imaginary scenario where he’s finally right

 

[HereticBD]

So since you can’t defend him, you have to make up an imaginary scenario where he’s finally right

What's there to defend? Do you even know who this guy is outside of the headlines?

 

[HockeyBjj]

What's there to defend? Do you even know who this guy is outside of the headlines?

I find his anti vaccine views extremely dangerous as well as how he ties it to autism with no reasonable proof

 

[Sinister]

Yeah, Pharma Corps hardly do R&D. It's quite rare that they will ever explain the mechanisms for disease, develop therapy strategies, validate drug targets, or even identify the prototypes. The majority of that is publicly funded research carried out at academic institutions and government labs. The IP is transferred to the private sector for development and the bulk of Big Pharma's "R&D costs" often to used to justify their despicable, exorbitant price gouging and discriminatory practices consist mostly of conducting the preclinical and clinical research, gaining regulatory approval to commercialize the NME and establishing manufacturing, control, and distribution nodes. Such magnificent "innovations" in the marketing department with their shitty ass commercials though. What a fucking scam.

I had a friend who worked for a major pharmaceutical company and at a function they were asked how the job was going. The reply was: "You know you get into this, as a chemist, thinking you're going to make medicine and help people. You're going to save lives. Then you get there and realize these companies are driven by their marketing departments, and their first consideration is what sells, not what helps."

My wife also experienced this as an environmental biologist doing disease tracking. She was doing West Nile tracking, a virus that kills more people than a lot of viruses for which there are vaccines. There is a WN vaccine for livestock, but not for humans. She asked why and was essentially told "well they dont think they'd sell enough of it."

And again I'll say, RFK was asked live if he would change this aspect of how it all works, and he fumbled hard. He doesnt want to change it, just to have a modicum of control over it for legacy purposes.

 

[fedoriswar37]

So since you can’t defend him, you have to make up an imaginary scenario where he’s finally right

Whats there to defend. Did he suggest people provide medical intervention to their children ?

 

[Beechwood]

I can imagine he will go to work for some drug company. That seems to be how it works at the FDA. It shouldn't be that way but all to often is.

When Drug Reviewers Leave The FDA, They Often Work For Pharma​

When Drug Reviewers Leave The FDA, They Often Work For Pharma - KFF Health News

Researchers examine the Food and Drug Administration’s “revolving door” regarding employees who worked on cancer and hematology drugs.

kffhealthnews.org

More than a quarter of the Food and Drug Administration employees who approved cancer and hematology drugs from 2001 through 2010 left the agency and now work or consult for pharmaceutical companies, according to research published by a prominent medical journal Tuesday....

FDA's revolving door: Companies often hire agency staffers who managed their successful drug reviews​

Job changes raise conflict of interest questions​

https://www.science.org/content/article/fda-s-revolving-door-companies-often-hire-agency-staffers-who-managed-their-successful

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

( Many people can’t imagine a world where the FDA doesn’t have a monopoly on drug approval. Yet there will always be a market for drug safety and efficacy information. Ending the agency’s monopoly will allow innovation and competition into that space, benefiting everyone—even former FDA bureaucrats. )

It’s just another form of organized crime except they run the country they control it which is scary .

https://www.cato.org/commentary/abolish-fda

So what's the alternative here other than the FDA? How would drug approvals work for the market, or would pharma not need anymore approvals?

 

[TriangleMonkey]

The same corrupt FDA that approved dangerous speed-rushed vaccines during the planned scam-demic?

 

[Siver!]

The same corrupt FDA that approved dangerous speed-rushed vaccines during the planned scam-demic?

You can kinda say the same about King Donald I.

The whole rushing of the vaccine was his idea, he even named it Warpspeed to show how fast he was ready to rush it, but he never seems to catch the shit for it.

It's a bit weird to blame individual departments but not the head honcho who got voted in a second time presumably because nobody was actually that upset about the "scamdemic".

 

[nostradumbass]

Next week's headline: Dr. Peter Marks set to begin new position on the board of Pfizer.

 

[Rod1]

Not only have they never heard of him, but they're undoubtedly unaware that Marks himself forced out long serving FDA vaccine researchers in 2021 for saying there was insufficient evidence to push COVID boosters on the general population. That was the professional opinion of Marion Gruber, then Director of the FDA's Vaccines Research & Review office and a 32-year veteran of the agency.

There was insufficient evidence, but evidence came afterwards that did proved that COVID vaccines did lost its potency overtime though.

Also they were certainly not forced out, because they disagreed.

 

[Rod1]

The same corrupt FDA that approved dangerous speed-rushed vaccines during the planned scam-demic?

Ah yes the dangerous speed-rushed vaccines that have done absolutely nothing to the world population.