International Fascists buy sneakers too

[Yehudim]

I honestly find it amazing how you guys keep repeating this dumb argument.

When did the Uyghurs move to the United States? Why would Lebron be informed on the politics and issues of ethnic minorities in another country?

The idea that if you criticize injustices done in YOUR OWN country to other people IN YOUR country, that that means you must also find and criticize injustices around the word is some of the dumbest shit I see on this topic.
Obviously, people are going to know and care more about shit that is happening in their own backyard.

Chinese human rights abuses are mainstream news

LeBron has significant business interests in China

He should be informed on what is going on there. Your defending what doesn’t need to be defended because of your tribalism.

 

[rob mafia]

I don't care about his actual opinions of China. It is his right to not care about Uyghers or any other oppressed minority in China. But to have a $1 billion lifetime deal with a company that uses child slave labor, in a country that enslaves racial minorities, and then grandstand as some leader of racial equality...yeah, my bullshit alarm starts ringing.

do as lebron says and not as lebron does.

or else!

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Chinese human rights abuses are mainstream news

LeBron has significant business interests in China

He should be informed on what is going on there. Your defending what doesn’t need to be defended because of your tribalism.

You act as if he is Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk, some CEO that is rapidly trying to expand business in China and soak up all the cheap labor.
He's a sports player in a league.

I'm not defending anything. I'm attacking a stupid argument. It's your tribalism that is making you make such a stupid argument.
"Because I complain about _____ problem in my country, I also have to complain about a similiar issue in another country" makes no sense.

It makes even less sense to expect a black American to be as informed and vocal on the treatment of Muslims in China as he is on the treatment of blacks in his own country.

 

[rob mafia]

You act as if he is Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk, some CEO that is rapidly trying to expand business in China and soak up all the cheap labor.
He's a sports player in a league.

I'm not defending anything. I'm attacking a stupid argument. It's your tribalism that is making you make such a stupid argument.
"Because I complain about _____ problem in my country, I also have to complain about a similiar issue in another country" makes no sense.

It makes even less sense to expect a black American to be as informed and vocal on the treatment of Muslims in China as he is on the treatment of blacks in his own country.

so why can't that "black American" with $1B business interests in china know as much as i do about china - without any personal interests in it?

how dare one expect a "black American" to know something mundane and commonplace, amirite? you sound more racist than the klan.


edit: seriously, fuck anyone who thinks that one's skin color is the determining factor for knowing about one's own business or china's practices that are well-known and commonly reported on.

 

[Yehudim]

You act as if he is Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk, some CEO that is rapidly trying to expand business in China and soak up all the cheap labor.
He's a sports player in a league.

I'm not defending anything. I'm attacking a stupid argument. It's your tribalism that is making you make such a stupid argument.
"Because I complain about _____ problem in my country, I also have to complain about a similiar issue in another country" makes no sense.

It makes even less sense to expect a black American to be as informed and vocal on the treatment of Muslims in China as he is on the treatment of blacks in his own country.

Lol nobody is expecting LeBron to be a foreign affairs expert you dope, people are just expecting some moral consistency for a man who has business interests in a country with a well known human rights problem.

You cannot cover the sun with your finger. You’re wrong, and that’s OK.

 

[MicroBrew]

...he's criticized as a gazillionaire shilling for china, especially in the context of this/cena. derp.



...you JUST said that shareholders are the big fish. what a shocking flip-flop. it's as if you just don't know what you're talking about...

LeBron is not a big fish like Phil Knight is. LeBron is just a rich athelete. The big fish are the CEOs and large shareholders of Apple, Google, Bloomberg, Nike, G.E., G.M. , Honeywell, Tesla / Elon etc...

Re. your last sentence
Clearly i was alluding to those people and portfolios that own a substantial % of stock, not litte mom-n-pop John and Jane Smith. Do you really even need this to be explained to you? I can buy a Nike share, does not mean I am big fish. You are just being downright disengenous here.

 

[MicroBrew]

so why can't that "black American" with $1B business interests in china know as much as i do about china - without any personal interests in it?

how dare one expect a "black American" to know something mundane and commonplace, amirite? you sound more racist than the klan.


edit: seriously, fuck anyone who thinks that one's skin color is the determining factor for knowing about one's own business or china's practices that are well-known and commonly reported on.

Vast majority of Americans don't know shit about CCP human rights. Why would you expect LeBron to be any different?

You can't compare Warroom posters with LeBron since the people who post in here are a tiny tiny subset of America. We post in here because we are interested in foreign affairs and social issues. Warroom posters are self-selected. Absolutely none of my American friends (almost all White) know much of anything about the Uyghur situation.

 

[rob mafia]

LeBron is not a big fish like Phil Knight is. LeBron is just a rich athelete. The big fish are the CEOs and large shareholders of Apple, Google, Bloomberg, Nike, G.E., G.M. , Honeywell, Tesla / Elon etc...

Re. your last sentence
Clearly i was alluding to those people and portfolios that own a substantial % of stock, not litte mom-n-pop John and Jane Smith. Do you really even need this to be explained to you? I can buy a Nike share, does not mean I am big fish. You are just being downright disengenous here.

...lolz @ calling me disingenuous for quoting you and holding you to your own quote, made minutes prior?

you pulled a 180 but it's me who's "downright disengenous?" and lolz @ not even clarifying your backpedal, anyway. what the fuck is a "large shareholder?" and bloomberg? lolwut? it's comical how you CLEARLY don't know what you're talking about, yet get defensive about it and further prove that you don't actually know what you're talking about...

Vast majority of Americans don't know shit about CCP human rights.

WAT

You can't compare Warroom posters with LeBron

right. lebron has a $1B business interest via china. he should know far more about this than any typical wr sherbrah with no business ties to china.

 

[MicroBrew]

...lolz @ calling me disingenuous for quoting you and holding you to your own quote, made minutes prior?

you pulled a 180 but it's me who's "downright disengenous?" and lolz @ not even clarifying your backpedal, anyway. what the fuck is a "large shareholder?" and bloomberg? lolwut? it's comical how you CLEARLY don't know what you're talking about, yet get defensive about it and further prove that you don't actually know what you're talking about...

You are disengenous for trying to clam that just because you buy 1 share in Nike, that makes you a big fish. I am not backpedalling, you are just showing yourself to be a hack, because you are trying to imply that I said owing a piddly number of shares makes one a big fish.

WAT

Say wat one more time.

right. lebron has a $1B business interest via china. he should know far more about this than any typical wr sherbrah with no business ties to china.

Unless he takes a special interest in foreign affairs he isn't going to know shit. Vast majority of Americans don't care about what happens abroad, and don't pay attention to what the CCP does. Just because he has a $1billion dollar contract with Nike, does not mean he is reading up on what is happening in China. He would have a general topical inkling, from seeing CNN etc.. but that's about it. Cena would know much more since he speaks a smattering of Manderin.

 

[rob mafia]

You are disengenous for trying to clam that just because you buy 1 share in Nike, that makes you a big fish.

you're disingenuous because that's the opposite of what you initially said in post 38. which also makes you a hypocrite. good job.

I am not backpedalling, you are just showing yourself to be a hack, because you are trying to imply that I said owing a piddly number of shares makes one a big fish.

YOU said that shareholders are "big fish." then you backpedaled to "large shareholders" (never once giving any metric for what large means, btw)

Unless he takes a special interest in foreign affairs

...you mean like a $1B business interest?

he isn't going to know shit. Vast majority of Americans don't care about what happens abroad, and don't pay attention to what the CCP does. Just because he has a $1billion dollar contract with Nike, does not mean he is reading up on what is happening in China. He would have a general topical inkling, from seeing CNN etc.. but that's about it. Cena would know much more since he speaks a smattering of Manderin.

lolz @ claiming lebron can't be held to the high standard of the average WR poster. lolz @ then shitting on your own argument by having higher expectations for cena.

 

[MicroBrew]

Is he American, though? Someone may want to tell him that. And fuck the trumps and kushner as well. I don’t just hate James because of blm. It certainly doesn’t help, but I hate him for trying so hard to be an activist and anti-police. There are plenty of people that support blm that I don’t hate simply because of that.

My point isn't to defend LeBron, because I think he should have defended the coach, rather than trying to placate the CCP. My point is that if LeBron was pushing conservative viewpoints, he wouldn't be receiving flak from the right.

More than a year or so ago, when Breitbart and Alt Right bloggers posted news on what the CCP is doing to the Uyghurs, it was not uncommon for commenters to say the Chinese know how to deal with Muslims. Even here, there were 1 or 2 rightwingers who didn't have a problem with China stomping on the Uyghurs. All this has changed over the past year and a half, with it now being rare to find rightwingers lauding the CCP for oppressing the Uyrghurs

 

[MicroBrew]

you're disingenuous because that's the opposite of what you initially said in post 38. which also makes you a hypocrite. good job.




YOU said that shareholders are "big fish." then you backpedaled to "large shareholders" (never once giving any metric for what large means, btw)



...you mean like a $1B business interest?




lolz @ claiming lebron can't be held to the high standard of the average WR poster. lolz @ then shitting on your own argument by having higher expectations for cena.

You have to be a hack to think I meant small time shareholders. A person who argues in good faith would understand I meant big time shareholders, because any guy can buy a share in a company. You think you got a gotcha by trying to technically tease apart my repsonse while ignoring the intention.

LeBron is not going to be aware of the stuff we talk about, because vast majority of Americans aren't. Unless you can actually prove he voracially reads news about China and its human rights situation, you got no point. Cena would know more than LeBron because he is trying to learn Mandarin, but I doubt even Cena knows as much as most warroomers.

The billion dollar interest is with Nike. Lebron does not have a billion dollar interest directly with a Chinese company, that I am aware of. So why aren't you guys on the right going after Nike more than you go after LeBron. We all known why...

 

[rob mafia]

You have to be a hack to think I meant small time shareholders. A person who argues in good faith would understand I meant big time shareholders,

let me get this straight, you expect me to be psychic and know that what you said not only isn't what you meant... but to also magically know what you meant... but you don't think lebron should be aware that the ccp is shitty regarding human rights, while he has a business stake in china?

tell me more about arguing in good faith.

 

[nhbbear]

My point isn't to defend LeBron, because I think he should have defended the coach, rather than trying to placate the CCP. My point is that if LeBron was pushing conservative viewpoints, he wouldn't be receiving flak from the right.

More than a year or so ago, when Breitbart and Alt Right bloggers posted news on what the CCP is doing to the Uyghurs, it was not uncommon for commenters to say the Chinese know how to deal with Muslims. Even here, there were 1 or 2 rightwingers who didn't have a problem with China stomping on the Uyghurs. All this has changed over the past year and a half, with it now being rare to find rightwingers lauding the CCP for oppressing the Uyrghurs

If James was spewing right wing stuff, he would be ostracized by the nba. Hell, his agent says he doesn’t want to represent white players. He represented a guy from another country but said he is not like white players from the US which is why he agreed. Yet, James will stay with him. My point is that there are plenty of reasons to dislike him and it’s not just because he supports blm

 

[maximus__]

You have to be a hack to think I meant small time shareholders. A person who argues in good faith would understand I meant big time shareholders, because any guy can buy a share in a company. You think you got a gotcha by trying to technically tease apart my repsonse while ignoring the intention.

LeBron is not going to be aware of the stuff we talk about, because vast majority of Americans aren't. Unless you can actually prove he voracially reads news about China and its human rights situation, you got no point. Cena would know more than LeBron because he is trying to learn Mandarin, but I doubt even Cena knows as much as most warroomers.

The billion dollar interest is with Nike. Lebron does not have a billion dollar interest directly with a Chinese company, that I am aware of. So why aren't you guys on the right going after Nike more than you go after LeBron. We all known why...

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...-about-china-nearly-everyone-else-ncna1069131

Seems pretty knowledgeable here. Seems like he is aware of the situation and refuses to comment because he will be attacked regardless or atleast that what he says.

 

[MicroBrew]

If James was spewing right wing stuff, he would be ostracized by the nba. Hell, his agent says he doesn’t want to represent white players. He represented a guy from another country but said he is not like white players from the US which is why he agreed. Yet, James will stay with him. My point is that there are plenty of reasons to dislike him and it’s not just because he supports blm

Depends on what rightwing views he espoused. Regardless of what the NBA thinks, if he was parroting rightiwng views, the rightwing would be giving him a pass for trying to placate China. He would get some flak, but it would dissipate quickly. I say this because rightwing media ignored Ivanka having stuff made in China and Kushners trying to sell Green Cards.

I don't care that he gets flak from the right, my argument is that the right should spend more time and effort going after the big fish. By focusing on James, and relatively ignoring the big fish, it just shows the rightwing is bothered by BLM support rather than actually going after the biggest enablers of the CCP.

James and Cena are small / medium fish when compared to: Apple, Nike, Google, Bloomberg, Honeywell, Kissinger and a whole host of large multi nationals.

 

[MicroBrew]

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...-about-china-nearly-everyone-else-ncna1069131

Seems pretty knowledgeable here. Seems like he is aware of the situation and refuses to comment because he will be attacked regardless or atleast that what he says.

He has a topical idea, because our media did report on the HK protests, but I very much doubt he is as aware of the issues in China as most Warroomers, because I presume James is like most Americans in that he doesn't concern himself with foreign affairs.

 

[rob mafia]

James and Cena are small / medium fish when compared to: Apple, Nike, Google, Bloomberg, Honeywell, Kissinger and a whole host of large multi nationals.

lolz @ comparing individuals to corporations, lolzors @ calling a billionaire a "small fish," and lolz @ calling nike a big fish... as if lebron isn't involved with nike.

"good faith"

<[analyzed}>

 

[nhbbear]

Depends on what rightwing views he espoused. Regardless of what the NBA thinks, if he was parroting rightiwng views, the rightwing would be giving him a pass for trying to placate China. He would get some flak, but it would dissipate quickly. I say this because rightwing media ignored Ivanka having stuff made in China and Kushners trying to sell Green Cards.

I don't care that he gets flak from the right, my argument is that the right should spend more time and effort going after the big fish. By focusing on James, and relatively ignoring the big fish, it just shows the rightwing is bothered by BLM support rather than actually going after the biggest enablers of the CCP.

James and Cena are small / medium fish when compared to: Apple, Nike, Google, Bloomberg, Honeywell, Kissinger and a whole host of large multi nationals.

I disagree. There are plenty of nba, nfl, and other sports that fully support blm and they don’t receive the hate that James does. Him and kap are the most outspoken athletes that spew radical ideas which is why they are hated. It’s not solely based on blm.

 

[DoctorDeelon]

communist not fascism bro

True but that's the name the artist gave the drawing so I dunno lol