International Fascists buy sneakers too

[MicroBrew]

sweet, i just bought a share of nike. with that $132 i spent, i'm now a bigger fish than multigazillionaires like lebron and cena.



i think my yacht's being delivered tomorrow. i'm gonna put rims on it and sail it in a lake of champagne.

Your piddly stock in Nike doesn't cut it.

 

[Tairy Hesticles]

It's remarkable how American conservatives can just invent new realities and keep repeating them to each other over and over until they are true.

LBJ has never expressed support of the Chinese government, and he probably doesn't have much knowledge of the Chinese government, although probably more than the average conservative. Yet his grave sin was....failing to criticize the Chinese government to conservatives' liking, which they packaged as a hypocrisy relating to his domestic (American) activism

And, as for the situation in Hong Kong itself, James still didn't have much to say at all: "I felt like with this particular situation, it was something that not only was I not informed enough about, I just felt like it was something that not only myself and my teammates or our organization had enough information to even talk about it at that point in time, and we still feel the same way."

...

Still, for years, James has taken up the mantle of progressive issues, and so, yes, for many it was disappointing to see him tread so cautiously on what seems, from here, to be such a clear-cut matter of right and wrong.

But targeting James and accusing him, personally, of suborning a communist dictatorship for his inartful comments is misplaced at best — an attempt to score cheap culture war points while letting the NBA itself off the hook, according to Dr. Harry Edwards, a renowned social justice activist and professor of sociology who has served as an adviser to Colin Kaepernick, Muhammad Ali, John Carlos and Tommie Smith.

The very same people trying to dunk on him now have often had little interest in hearing about social justice causes in America — particularly when James was involved — but, suddenly, they weirdly feel like his voice is not only valued, but also required. What’s more, they seem to feel that his unwillingness to speak about the Hong Kong protesters voids all of his prior advocacy efforts, the school he built in Akron, the spotlight he’s brought on police brutality and state-sanctioned violence and his lobbying for greater gun control, according to those critics. Edwards isn’t having it: “That’s not just disingenuous, it's degenerate,” he said.
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Basically, the entire narrative is just a way for right wing puds to leverage anti-Chinese sentiment toward dismissing James' activism for black issues. To the extent that they care about Hong Kong or Taiwan, it's almost exclusively so they can say "see, you don't really care black lives - you're just a puppet!"

And it's not like American conservatives themselves really care about democracy and due process and free speech: for all of American history, they've been attacking those things while liberals try to protect them.

With that said, Go Suns @Anung Un Rama @Jesus H. Sherdog

Wrong. Lebron spends a ton of time campaigning for racial equality, but when it comes to the Uyghurs he shuts up and dribbles because it impacts his bottom line. It's the only topic that he doesn't grandstand about when asked.

His excuse for this is that he isn't informed. Cool, whatever. Just don't expect people to be informed about your racial cause when you can't be fucked to learn the first thing about genocide taking place in a country where you make millions. What's that, Lebron? People are racists if they aren't educated about issues that matter to BLM? Ah, I see how this works.

You can't turn a blind eye to racial genocide and then be sanctimonious about racism in America. You don't need to be a right winger to call out hypocrisy like that. I'm honestly surprised that many on the left have taken this stance. Supporting racial discrimination in China is now a majority left wing stance, so long as right wingers are calling out a minority for doing so.

 

[Trotsky]

Wrong. Lebron spend a ton of time campaigning for racial equality, but when it comes to the Uyghurs he shuts up and dribbles because it impacts his bottom line. You can't turn a blind eye to racial genocide and then be sanctimonious about racism in America. You don't need to be a right winger to call out hypocrisy like that.

You realize this is an argument that's been used to discredit racial movements forever, right?

"MLK says he cares about black people? What about all the black people in Rawanda? They have it way worse than African Americans! Yet what does he say about that? He doesn't even care! What a hypocrite, this is why we should oppose the Civil Rights Movement."

Not every activist is an internationalist. In fact, the vast majority of political activists around the world on focused specifically on their immediate community. Beyond that you have people focused on change in their city. Then in their province. Then in their country. Requiring that any one of them have a working knowledge of the issue as applied to the whole world is ridiculous.

 

[rob mafia]

He is a Black guy supporting BLM, that is why the rightwing is always mentioning LeBron in regards to CCP news. He isn't criticised for being a Black guy, he is criticized for being a Black guy who supports BLM.

MJ and Tiger and many other atheletes also advertise products or have branded products made in China, but neither gets criticzed like LeBron. Ivanka Trump has products made in China, and Jared's family tried to sell US green cards to wealthy Chinese. Cena got criticized because as far as celebs or atheletes kow towing to CCP goes, Cena's video stands out for being very pathetic.

...he's criticized as a gazillionaire shilling for china, especially in the context of this/cena. derp.

Your piddly stock in Nike doesn't cut it.

...you JUST said that shareholders are the big fish. what a shocking flip-flop. it's as if you just don't know what you're talking about...

 

[rob mafia]

You realize this is an argument that's been used to discredit racial movements forever, right?

"MLK says he cares about black people? What about all the black people in Rawanda? They have it way worse than African Americans! Yet what does he say about that? He doesn't even care! What a hypocrite, this is why we should oppose the Civil Rights Movement."

Not every activist is an internationalist. In fact, the vast majority of political activists around the world on focused specifically on their immediate community. Beyond that you have people focused on change in their city. Then in their province. Then in their country. Requiring that any one of them have a working knowledge of the issue as applied to the whole world is ridiculous.

right, lebron has no agency in his own shoe contracts and etc. /s

 

[Misfit23]

Everyone bows to the almighty dollar in the end. I doubt I'd be any different.

 

[Trotsky]

right, lebron has no agency in his own shoe contracts and etc. /s

What?

I assume he has a good amount of say in his shoe company. That doesn't mean he, or any other person involved in a corporation, has a working knowledge of the politics of every country where the product is manufactured or sold. By your token, almost no person involved with a company that manufactures things can ever have an opinion on US current events because, inevitably, to be competitive in the market you're going to have to come into contact with a manufacturing country where social and political situations are much worse than the US.

 

[freakroor]

lebron james living in y’alls heads rent-free

 

[rob mafia]

What?

I assume he has a good amount of say in his shoe company. That doesn't mean he, or any other person involved in a corporation, has a working knowledge of the politics of every country where the product is manufactured or sold. By your token, almost no person involved with a company that manufactures things can ever have an opinion on US current events because, inevitably, to be competitive in the market you're going to have to come into contact with a manufacturing country where social and political situations are much worse than the US.

you just said it's his shoe company. and then you explained the hilarious double-standard he's criticized for... thanks, captain. that's the point.

 

[Tairy Hesticles]

You realize this is an argument that's been used to discredit racial movements forever, right?

"MLK says he cares about black people? What about all the black people in Rawanda? They have it way worse than African Americans! Yet what does he say about that? He doesn't even care! What a hypocrite, this is why we should oppose the Civil Rights Movement."

Not every activist is an internationalist. In fact, the vast majority of political activists around the world on focused specifically on their immediate community. Beyond that you have people focused on change in their city. Then in their province. Then in their country. Requiring that any one of them have a working knowledge of the issue as applied to the whole world is ridiculous.

Lebron has direct business relationships with a country that supports a regime actively oppressing a race of people. He expects people to learn about and support his racial cause, but can't be bothered to learn the first thing about a group that is being oppressed more than his own.

He claims intellectual superiority when it suits him, and pleads ignorance when it hurts his bottom line. Anyone else would be criticised for something this blatant. Hell, Jordan still gets shit for saying that Republicans buy sneakers too. Obama himself shit on Jordan for wanting to stay out of politics, but somehow Lebron is supposed to get a pass for this.

I don't buy it.

 

[Trotsky]

you just said it's his shoe company. and then you explained the hilarious double-standard he's criticized for... thanks, captain. that's the point.

As always, your stupidity is impressive.

 

[j123]

communist not fascism bro

Facism has always been about Totalitarianism with ideals of ultra-nationalism, heavy control on the economy and what everyone really can do

So yeah communist nations do share some traits in common with it.

But if we're being honest and not caring about lingo? Its typical dictatorship shit, not purely a left/right issue, but rather authoritarian / dictator shit. People don't fully hate communist countries (okay socalist if you wanna split hairs) because of welfare bums screwing around, and your tax dollars being gutted to the state, its because of the dictator one party 1984 bullshit that comes with it.

 

[Trotsky]

Lebron has direct business relationships with China that supports a regime actively oppressing a race of people. He expects people to learn about and support his racial cause, but can't be bothered to learn the first thing about a group that is bring oppressed more than his own. He claims intellectual superiority when it suits him, and pleads ignorance when it hurts his bottom line. Anyone else would be criticised for something this blatant. Hell, Jordan still gets shit for saying that Republicans buy sneakers too. Obama himself shit on Jordan for wanting to stay out of politics, but somehow Lebron is supposed to get a pass for this.

I don't buy it.

See this:

I assume he has a good amount of say in his shoe company. That doesn't mean he, or any other person involved in a corporation, has a working knowledge of the politics of every country where the product is manufactured or sold. By your token, almost no person involved with a company that manufactures things can ever have an opinion on US current events because, inevitably, to be competitive in the market you're going to have to come into contact with a manufacturing country where social and political situations are much worse than the US.
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Not everyone, even those engaged in business dealings that inevitably lead them into contact with the biggest manufacturing hub and second biggest consumer hub in the world, knows world politics.

Not every person who seeks racial equality or justice in their own country does or should know about and speak about racial injustice in every other country in the world.

 

[rob mafia]

As always, your stupidity is impressive.

...says the one defending a double-standard as if the hypocrisy wasn't part of the problem.

can't bullshit someone? ad-hom to the rescue!

Not everyone, even those engaged in business dealings that inevitably lead them into contact with the biggest manufacturing hub and second biggest consumer hub in the world, knows world politics.

lolz @ (willful) ignorance (and lack of due diligence) being an excuse.
lolz @ believing he still doesn't know
lolz @ believing that no one can just tell him, anyway

 

[Paradigm]

It's remarkable how American conservatives can just invent new realities and keep repeating them to each other over and over until they are true.

LBJ has never expressed support of the Chinese government, and he probably doesn't have much knowledge of the Chinese government, although probably more than the average conservative. Yet his grave sin was....failing to criticize the Chinese government to conservatives' liking, which they packaged as a hypocrisy relating to his domestic (American) activism

And, as for the situation in Hong Kong itself, James still didn't have much to say at all: "I felt like with this particular situation, it was something that not only was I not informed enough about, I just felt like it was something that not only myself and my teammates or our organization had enough information to even talk about it at that point in time, and we still feel the same way."

...

Still, for years, James has taken up the mantle of progressive issues, and so, yes, for many it was disappointing to see him tread so cautiously on what seems, from here, to be such a clear-cut matter of right and wrong.

But targeting James and accusing him, personally, of suborning a communist dictatorship for his inartful comments is misplaced at best — an attempt to score cheap culture war points while letting the NBA itself off the hook, according to Dr. Harry Edwards, a renowned social justice activist and professor of sociology who has served as an adviser to Colin Kaepernick, Muhammad Ali, John Carlos and Tommie Smith.

The very same people trying to dunk on him now have often had little interest in hearing about social justice causes in America — particularly when James was involved — but, suddenly, they weirdly feel like his voice is not only valued, but also required. What’s more, they seem to feel that his unwillingness to speak about the Hong Kong protesters voids all of his prior advocacy efforts, the school he built in Akron, the spotlight he’s brought on police brutality and state-sanctioned violence and his lobbying for greater gun control, according to those critics. Edwards isn’t having it: “That’s not just disingenuous, it's degenerate,” he said.
​

Basically, the entire narrative is just a way for right wing puds to leverage anti-Chinese sentiment toward dismissing James' activism for black issues. To the extent that they care about Hong Kong or Taiwan, it's almost exclusively so they can say "see, you don't really care black lives - you're just a puppet!"

And it's not like American conservatives themselves really care about democracy and due process and free speech: for all of American history, they've been attacking those things while liberals try to protect them.

With that said, Go Suns @Anung Un Rama @Jesus H. Sherdog

LeBron was probably unaware of the Chinese treatment of Africans during the pandemic.



Makes sense, as you'd have to go to alt-right sites to even know it was going on and he probably doesn't browse media like that.

 

[Tairy Hesticles]

See this:

I assume he has a good amount of say in his shoe company. That doesn't mean he, or any other person involved in a corporation, has a working knowledge of the politics of every country where the product is manufactured or sold. By your token, almost no person involved with a company that manufactures things can ever have an opinion on US current events because, inevitably, to be competitive in the market you're going to have to come into contact with a manufacturing country where social and political situations are much worse than the US.
​

Not everyone, even those engaged in business dealings that inevitably lead them into contact with the biggest manufacturing hub and second biggest consumer hub in the world, knows world politics.

Not every person who seeks racial equality or justice in their own country does or should know about and speak about racial injustice in every other country in the world.

I don't care about his actual opinions of China. It is his right to not care about Uyghers or any other oppressed minority in China. But to have a $1 billion lifetime deal with a company that uses child slave labor, in a country that enslaves racial minorities, and then grandstand as some leader of racial equality...yeah, my bullshit alarm starts ringing.

 

[nhbbear]

LeBron has his fair share of wrongs, but supporting BLM isn't one of them, except for the people who hate BLM. He deservers some of the shit he gets, but some of the shit he gets is simply because he supports BLM. MJ and Tiger both profit from so called sweatshops, and soo do many other atheletes, but they don't get shit on because they don't support BLM. The point is that when the rightwing criticizes LeBron for kow towing to the CCP, it isn't because the rightwing actually cares about human rights in China, it is because LeBron supports BLM. Ivanka Trump has stuff made in China. Jared Kushner's family tried to sell US green cards to wealthy Chinese.

As an American he is going to be concerned with American social issues, and is either ignorant of or not concerned of international issues. This is typical for most Americans.

Is he American, though? Someone may want to tell him that. And fuck the trumps and kushner as well. I don’t just hate James because of blm. It certainly doesn’t help, but I hate him for trying so hard to be an activist and anti-police. There are plenty of people that support blm that I don’t hate simply because of that.

 

[Yehudim]

I don't care about his actual opinions of China. It is his right to not care about Uyghers or any other oppressed minority in China. But to have a $1 billion lifetime deal with a company that uses child slave labor, in a country that enslaves racial minorities, and then grandstand as some leader of racial equality...yeah, my bullshit alarm starts ringing.

It’s crazy how intelligent people can willingly deceive themselves.

“we do have freedom of speech, but there can be a lot of negative things that come with that too," and “I also don’t think every issue should be everybody’s problem.”

LeBron is just some rich guy protecting his business interests.

But because crazy right wingers foam at the mouth, he has to create levels of plausible deniability which may have been the case in 2019 but doesn’t hold weight in 2021 with the large MSM coverage of the genocide in Xinjiang and the forced labor which manufactures a lot of products for Americans

At best LeBron is negligent if he’s not aware of Xinjiang slave labor in the cotton industry

He is a slightly more principled version of corporations that put up the LGBT flag on Twitter. I say slightly because I have no reason to believe he doesn’t really believe in the BLM movement. But overall it’s about profit.

 

[SmilinDesperado]

Wrong. Lebron spends a ton of time campaigning for racial equality, but when it comes to the Uyghurs he shuts up and dribbles because it impacts his bottom line. It's the only topic that he doesn't grandstand about when asked.

His excuse for this is that he isn't informed. Cool, whatever. Just don't expect people to be informed about your racial cause when you can't be fucked to learn the first thing about genocide taking place in a country where you make millions. What's that, Lebron? People are racists if they aren't educated about issues that matter to BLM? Ah, I see how this works.

You can't turn a blind eye to racial genocide and then be sanctimonious about racism in America. You don't need to be a right winger to call out hypocrisy like that. I'm honestly surprised that many on the left have taken this stance. Supporting racial discrimination in China is now a majority left wing stance, so long as right wingers are calling out a minority for doing so.

I honestly find it amazing how you guys keep repeating this dumb argument.

When did the Uyghurs move to the United States? Why would Lebron be informed on the politics and issues of ethnic minorities in another country?

The idea that if you criticize injustices done in YOUR OWN country to other people IN YOUR country, that that means you must also find and criticize injustices around the word is some of the dumbest shit I see on this topic.
Obviously, people are going to know and care more about shit that is happening in their own backyard.

 

[rob mafia]

I honestly find it amazing how you guys keep repeating this dumb argument.

When did the Uyghurs move to the United States? Why would Lebron be informed on the politics and issues of ethnic minorities in another country?

The idea that if you criticize injustices done in YOUR OWN country to other people IN YOUR country, that that means you must also find and criticize injustices around the word is some of the dumbest shit I see on this topic.
Obviously, people are going to know and care more about shit that is happening in their own backyard.

...so one should only care about one's own race in one's own country?

when lefties backpedal so hard that they go full racist...