Movies FANTASTIC FOUR [2015] Thread v.2 (Dragonlord's Review)

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Update: August 23, 2015

FANTASTIC FOUR Earns Pitiful $3.6 Million on 3rd Weekend

Fantastic Four is the gift which keeps on giving for fans of trainwrecks, as the reboot had a horrendous third weekend at the North American box office. Losing nearly 1500 theaters, the movie grossed a paltry $3.6 million, making no real impact on the Top 10 (where Straight Outta Compton continues to dominate). It now has a total of $49 million, meaning that after 17 days of release, it still hasn't made as much as both Fantastic Four and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer did on their respective opening weekends in 2005 and 2007 which is embarrassing.

In its sixth week in release, Ant-Man will claim eight-place at the North American box office with $4.1 million. While the not-so-Fantastic Four clings to tenth-place in its third weekend with $3.65 million. Ant-Man only dropped 26% from last week, while Fantastic Four plummeted 56%.

Fantastic Four is not faring much better overseas either as it grossed just $16 million this weekend, for a total of $60 million. It's hard to imagine Fox going anywhere near this franchise again after this performance, even with a new director. Regardless, Fantastic Four isn't Fox's only flop this weekend. Hitman: Agent 47 earned a paltry $8.2 million during its debut weekend.


Box Office: 'Fantastic Four' Continues To Bomb In Yet Another Humiliating Weekend

 

[Frank23]

This is a historic bomb.

 

[Frank23]

[YT]OPackriEUow[/YT]

1:29:02-

Rogan didn't see it.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

For those that are following the box office numbers, F4 earned $1.7 million on its 4th weekend.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2015&wknd=35&p=.htm

The film so far has earned $52.6m domestically and $93.5 internationally.

 

[JBSchroeds]

Woof. Those drops continue to be bad. The median weekend 4 drops are -44% (which are softer than weekend 3, at -49.4%. Fant4stic is doing -54.5%, which is almost exactly the same as last weekend's drop. In fact, it's doing so poorly it falls outside my current prediction data-set. So, relying on a best guess, it'll only pick up about $3mil more to it's total: finishing at about $55.7mil domestic.

 

[76Knockout]

This film, isn't only the worst comic book movie I've ever seen..(I've seen batman and robin, captain America the old version, superman returns, the other fantastic 4 films, x men origins wolverine.)

It's literally one of the worst films I've ever had the displeasure of viewing.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Update: September 4, 2015

Summer Box-Office Flops: Tomorrowland, Fantastic 4 Top List

Here are five big bombs of the season when accounting for budget, marketing spend and revenue the film can expect to earn in ancillary markets. Grosses are through Sept. 4, with several titles still in release worldwide.

Tomorrowland (Disney, May 22)
Budget: $190 million
Global gross: $208.4 million
Expected loss: $120 million-$150 million

Marvel's Avengers: Age of Ultron ($1.4 billion) and Pixar's Inside Out ($703 million), which is still rolling out overseas, will go a long way in helping Disney absorb the loss.


Fantastic Four (Fox, Aug. 7)
Budget: $125 million
Global gross: $146.7 million
Expected loss: $80 million-$100 million

The dismal performance of Trank's reboot throws into question whether Fox will move ahead with a sequel, dated for June 9, 2017. The movie received scathing reviews, prompting Trank to tweet that his version was better.


Pixels (Sony, July 24)
Budget: $88 million-plus
Global gross: $186.4 million
Expected loss: $75 million-plus

The studio had hoped to launch a new franchise with the tentpole. Pixels opens in China later this month, but analysts differ as to its chances in the world's second-biggest moviegoing market.


The Man From U.N.C.L.E. (Warner Bros., Aug. 14)
Budget: $75 million-plus
Global gross: $72.1 million
Expected loss: $80 million-plus

Warner Bros. had a difficult summer overall, with Hot Pursuit, Entourage and Magic Mike XXL also taking hits; the two standouts were San Andreas ($469.6 million) and Mad Max: Fury Road ($374.1 million). Man From U.N.C.L.E., based on the classic television series, still has yet to open in several key European markets.


Aloha (Sony/Fox, May 29)
Budget: $37 million-plus
Global gross: $26.2 million
Expected loss: $65 million

Some box-office experts put the losses for Aloha as high as $75 million, but the decision by Fox, which handled the film overseas, to scrub the film's release in numerous markets likely lowered the number.


Summer Box-Office Flops: 'Tomorrowland' and 'Fantastic Four' Top the List

 

[JBSchroeds]

Not quite understanding the 'Global Gross' number. That usually means how much the movie made, right? And if it's higher than the budget, it's a net profit? Then how is it a loss?

The film studio doesn't actually receive anywhere close to the total gross. They get approximately 50% of the domestic and 25% of the foreign, and the budget does not include advertising which can be anywhere from an additional 40-100% of the budget. A quick rule of thumb is to take the budget and quadruple it, and that's what the final total gross needs to be to be profitable just on box office receipts.

EDIT: So to put some more numbers to this here's an example.
Suppose a film has a $130mil budget. It will spend an additional $65-90mil on advertising. Some of the production and advertising costs can be defrayed by tax breaks and tie-ins, so we can estimate the break-even figure to be around $180mil.

Our rule of thumb says it needs a total gross of $130mil * 4 = $520mil to break even. A fairly typical domestic/foreign split is 35-65, so $182+338mil. If we apply the 50% and 25% studio return to those we get $91+84.5mil = $175.5mil, which is our estimated break-even point.

If the total gross was only $100mil in this example the studio take would have been about $34mil, or nearly $150mil short of breaking even. This is why Fant4stic is such a massive bomb: looking at the budget and project final gross it's likely losing $100-120mil, and that's hard to make up on the back end.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Update: September 5, 2015

THE ROOM's Tommy Wiseau Wants to Direct FANTASTIC FOUR 2

Now that the dust has settled, we can all collectively agree that the recent Fantastic Four movie proved to be an unmitigated disaster. How should Fox recover from such a drastic misstep if they proceed with a sequel? Put the franchise in the hands of infamous director Tommy Wiseau

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Update: September 5, 2015

Unused FANTASTIC FOUR Concept Art of H.E.R.B.I.E. and Fantasticar

Unused HERBIE and Fantasticar Concept Art For Josh Trank's Fantastic Four

 

[Deleted member 429137]

They should give it to Wiseau, imo. He would also make a great Reed Richards.

 

[milliniar]

was the H.E.R.B.I.E drawn up before or after BB-8?

 

[JBSchroeds]

This reminds me of a racing game from the PS1/N64 era, just not sure which one off the top of my head.
EDIT: Did a search, and it's likely either Wipeout or Aero Gauge.

was the H.E.R.B.I.E drawn up before or after BB-8?

The date on the picture reads May 21 2013, so it's likely the artist drew that up without any knowledge of the new droid (which was, to the best of my knowledge, first seen in the Nov 28 2014 trailer).

 

[Gambitpool]

Update: September 5, 2015

THE ROOM's Tommy Wiseau Wants to Direct FANTASTIC FOUR 2

Fvck it. I'm in. Fox isn't going to give it back and they will continue to make last minute disasters to keep the rights. Why not go as ridiculous as possible? Wiseau would make something legendary. Don't deny you wouldn't be interested.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

Fvck it. I'm in. Fox isn't going to give it back and they will continue to make last minute disasters to keep the rights. Why not go as ridiculous as possible? Wiseau would make something legendary. Don't deny you wouldn't be interested.

I agree. First time the studio would take its name off a film because of interference from the director.

 

[Lovestorm]

No sequel, thanks.

 

[Loiosh]

Fvck it. I'm in. Fox isn't going to give it back and they will continue to make last minute disasters to keep the rights. Why not go as ridiculous as possible? Wiseau would make something legendary. Don't deny you wouldn't be interested.

I will definitely not deny that I wouldn't be interested.

 

[Francis Rossi]

The Man From U.N.C.L.E. (Warner Bros., Aug. 14)
Budget: $75 million-plus
Global gross: $72.1 million
Expected loss: $80 million-plus

Warner Bros. had a difficult summer overall, with Hot Pursuit, Entourage and Magic Mike XXL also taking hits; the two standouts were San Andreas ($469.6 million) and Mad Max: Fury Road ($374.1 million). Man From U.N.C.L.E., based on the classic television series, still has yet to open in several key European markets.

Speaking of which, from the latest Popbitch email, which has to be about this film:

The failure of which latest big-screen remake of a classic TV show has been blamed on bad casting choices? Studio execs have been pointing fingers at one actor in particular, saying his inability to act wasn't even their biggest problem. It was the rate at which he hoovered up gak.

Sadly they never name anyone, due to lawsuits, but it's got me wondering who they mean.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Speaking of which, from the latest Popbitch email, which has to be about this film:

Sadly they never name anyone, due to lawsuits, but it's got me wondering who they mean.

My guess would be Armie Hammer based on the "he hoovered up gak." Armie was in the Clint Eastwood movie, J. Edgar, which was about J. Edgar Hoover.

 

[Lovestorm]

Cavill can be a bit wooden, but i can't picture him being a coke head.