Rumored "Famous Irish Sports Star" under investigation - sexual assaults (MEGA THREAD)

[agoraphobic3]

He said about as much as he could say at the time , it's not really comparable to gossip about a fight coming up

He said "fake news" from WhatsApp

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

It has to be i think thats the original way it came out right?

The convo leaked was between two bloggers, I believe. The first account was a recap of what happened, the details of the rape and said the victim was Erin McGregor's boyfriend's friend's girlfriend, but the other person said the details were mostly right but the victim was the girlfriend of Dee's brother's best friend. I did not know Dee had a brother either, there is no sign of him on social media, but I have not heard it corrected yet and would imagine these investigative bloggers would atleast be able to vet that detail (which is easily done with a background check).

 

[tim2tom]

He said "fake news" from WhatsApp

I think he siad that's how fake news gets started. Which is a bit different.

I'm sure what he said was heavily vetted by sb nations legal team.

This will only get talked about if the RTÉ link can be 100% verified by a US media org or they get a credible on the record source.

 

[Grapes]

He said "fake news" from WhatsApp

the whatsapp stuff will never be taken seriously by anybody - anybody could make it up so it will never be pointed to as proof of anything. In fact, just the opposite.

The RTE leak being genuine though is the smoking gun

Incident reported as a data breach which would not be done unless it was real and a financial risk to RTE (which is a very cash-strapped organisation actually)

The Times and The Sunday times writing 2 articles adds further credence - it's their way of identifying the accused as they can't do it directly. They would never bother to report on something like this which without the implication is not news.

I imagine that more media outlets will reference this over time.

 

[cormac mcgregor]

But just out of interest who else could it be? what other famous Irish sports stars are there? They don't all fit the criteria but here's a list :
Rory Mcilroy, Johnny Sexton, Carl Frampton, Micheal Conlan
who else?

I'm merely compiling a list of 'world famous Irish sports stars' not attaching their names to any allegations

 

[Steven Ellis]

Does anybody remember the podcast where someone is talking about the incident somebody posted it but i cant find it now.

 

[cormac mcgregor]

He said "fake news" from WhatsApp

Yes well I just don't think any of the American mma journalists are going to touch it unless it becomes fact. However I think some of the Irish MMA journalists should address it considering all the 'everybody in Dublin knows' comments going around. The problem is a lot of the Irish MMA journalists know Conor so probably wont say anything.

 

[Grapes]

But just out of interest who else could it be? what other famous Irish sports stars are there? They don't all fit the criteria but here's a list :
Rory Mcilroy, Johnny Sexton, Carl Frampton, Micheal Conlan
who else?

I'm merely compiling a list of 'world famous Irish sports stars' not attaching their names to any allegations

at this stage, with the RTE Leak coupled with all the other hints dropped over the last month by the papers it can't really be anyone else.

If it turns out to be someone else I'll buy a hat and eat it.

 

[Grapes]

Yes well I just don't think any of the American mma journalists are going to touch it unless it becomes fact. However I think some of the Irish MMA journalists should address it considering all the 'everybody in Dublin knows' comments going around. The problem is a lot of the Irish MMA journalists know Conor so probably wont say anything.

the Irish MMA journalists would be the last ones to touch this as they are subject to Irish laws and not just at risk from being sued but also criminally from the Irish legal system.

joe . ie have broached the subject of the RTE leak - the first Irish media outlet to do so.
they are not a particularly well-regarded outlet but still. I'll post the link in a different post but it will take time to get approved due to my limitations as a poster here. just google "joe rte leak"

 

[Grapes]

The first Irish media outlet to broach the subject

https://www.joe.ie/news/rte-memo-leak-sports-star-656407

 

[Danratty]

The first Irish media outlet to broach the subject

https://www.joe.ie/news/rte-memo-leak-sports-star-656407

whoever leaked that document should get an reward not a fine FACT

 

[The Merchant]

My issue is that he implied it was nothing but a bit of gossip. They have speculated on events with far less evidence than we have in this thread. Is the evidence conclusive, of course not. But to act like it is nothing more than a random person tweeting "Conor raped me" seemed disingenuous to me. Especially when immediately after they talk (in an excited tone) about Conor's next opponent. And I'm normally a big LT fan, he can be pretentious at times, but he's easily one of the best MMA reporters.

I hear you the thing that makes the difference for me, speculating about a fight and speculating about possibly an open criminal investigation can be viewed differently.

 

[Grapes]

whoever leaked that document should get an reward not a fine FACT

it's totally weird that this has been the thing to confirm the accused.

although without the 2 Uk articles from the Times and The Sunday Times I'd bet that RTE would have just let it slide and hope that it would blow over and not reported it as a breach. These two articles from a reputable news outlet put pressure on them to address the issue.

I wonder if they can ever prove who it was - depends on the circulation numbers of that that internal document I suppose. That picture would have been sent from a smartphone - can't really track that or even look into it.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

But just out of interest who else could it be? what other famous Irish sports stars are there? They don't all fit the criteria but here's a list :
Rory Mcilroy, Johnny Sexton, Carl Frampton, Micheal Conlan
who else?

I'm merely compiling a list of 'world famous Irish sports stars' not attaching their names to any allegations

And who else would fit the description of being the type to party in Dublin, go on a two day bender and have a long time 'partner' and kid with with her? I am not from Dublin so I am not sure if there are any other 'global super stars' that are notorious for partying and clubbing. McIlroy is probably the only Irish sports star I can think of that truly has global notoriety and I don't believe he is a two day bender type guy, not to mention is not from Dublin - Conlan, Duffy, Sexton and Frampton really aren't in the same tier and not 'global superstars'.

 

[cormac mcgregor]

Somebody said this over on reddit and it's exactly what I was thinking , in relation to the RTE memo :
'What I don't get is why was the memo even drafted if it wasn't for publication?'
If something was that important (NB NB NB) and not to be broadcasted why would a news channel take the risk of printing it onto an A4 sheet of paper

 

[Grapes]

Somebody said this over on reddit and it's exactly what I was thinking , in relation to the RTE memo :
'What I don't get is why was the memo even drafted if it wasn't for publication?'
If something was that important (NB NB NB) and not to be broadcasted why would a news channel take the risk of printing it onto an A4 sheet of paper

it was with the running order of stories for the day - not on it's own.

it was a reminder not on any account to mention this on air.

everyone in the building would have already known from their sources in the guards who it was and the whole place talking about it as it was fresh news from the day before when the accused was arrested, questioned and then released.

they just can't talk about it on air (notes for the radio progrmame)

it's real - there is no doubt.

 

[Danratty]

it's totally weird that this has been the thing to confirm the accused.

although without the 2 Uk articles from the Times and The Sunday Times I'd bet that RTE would have just let it slide and hope that it would blow over and not reported it as a breach. These two articles from a reputable news outlet put pressure on them to address the issue.

I wonder if they can ever prove who it was - depends on the circulation numbers of that that internal document I suppose. That picture would have been sent from a smartphone - can't really track that or even look into it.

you know they only reported a breach , they didn't say that breach was 100% correct the con mcgregor part was probably added to a real rte handover document as a bit of personal vengeance

 

[Grapes]

you know they only reported a breach , they didn't say that breach was 100% correct

just common sense says that why would they report a breach something fake / not correct / altered.

it makes no sense.

you could have 4k footage of the bedroom in the hotel that night with whoever was in it and if it was him some people would still deny it.

 

[Danratty]

just common sense says that why would they report a breach something fake / not correct / altered.

it makes no sense.

you could have 4k footage of the bedroom in the hotel that night with whoever was in it and if it was him some people would still deny it.

but they would never have been reporting the suspects name anyway, the rest was the breach as it all looks very accurate

 

[Grapes]

but they would never have been reporting the suspects name anyway, the rest was the breach of say as its accurate

obviously the reason they are reporting the breach is to try to minimise the damage they (RTE) may be open to

that damage would only relate to the accused being named - something that is not supposed to get out

there would be no issue / damage about the other information about the news of the day - that's irrelevant

so the fact that they reported it says to me that someone in RTE did write the NB NB NB etc stuff