Rumored "Famous Irish Sports Star" under investigation - sexual assaults (MEGA THREAD)

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I didn't really join this thread to have my character assassinated tbh I was just saying something that I know to be true. As you all asked so nicely I will regale you with the particulars of how I came upon this information, and I am sure it will delight some of you to have the fuel to fire your inspired bitterness toward me, however, for the purposes of the argument this story is 100% true so you can judge me as you wish.

I am in a band and we are based in the UK. We are by no means a famous band, but in our own genre, which is a very small scene in the UK, my band is one of the main support bands for all the famous bands in the genre, and we play gigs from arenas one night, next night a local bar. We all have full-time jobs and we are all skint. My friends are always nagging me to write a book about the incidents I have had with women, but to be perfectly candid both myself and my cousin were 'interfered with' as toddlers and I have always been a bit messed up about sex and relationships and struggled really hard to comprehend the two things as the same. This didn't make me cheat on women, Ive never actually done that, but it left me paranoid about being cheated on, and also when I was single I would literally sleep with any women that would let me, and I am ashamed of the way I used to be. I also was a borderline alcoholic and recreational user of drugs such as cocaine.

Anyway, to get to the tampon. One night I came of stage and a woman made a beeline for me and was being a real nuisance tbh. I was still suffering from the flu and didn't really even feel well enough to be out the house. She was begging and pleading with me to go outside and in her words f**k her, and even had her male friends egging me on to do it, it was getting embarrassing so I caved in and went outside with her. It was actually snowing and freezing cold so after kissing for a few minutes we went back inside and she dragged me into the ladies toilets. So we are there kissing in the cubicle and she starts stripping off in that n trying to get my penis out but it was that cold I actually had two pairs of jeans on lol, and I put my hands down her knickers and feel a piece of string. Then without anything getting any further or otherwise a bouncer comes in bangs on the door kicks us both, and also her previously unknown to me boyfriend out the venue. He didn't have any idea what she was up to. A bit embarrassing to be kicked out your own gig for a failed attempt at sex in the toilets but that is the end of it.

Next day at about 2pm I check my facebook and Ive got a message off the venue saying the police want to talk to me in connection with a rape. At this point I just thought they were trying to be dicks about what had happened but then the police rang our band manager and got my number off him. When I got the phone call I can tell you my heart dropped through my anus so fast it physically hurt when I thought I was gonna get accused of rape, and I told the police officer my account of the events pretty much as I have just given them to you, and then I asked if she was accusing me of rape and as it transpired she had later on that night had sex with someone else and was accusing him of rape and that she had done the same thing on three other blokes in the past 4 weeks and every time she had a tampon in and apparently according to the police officer its something serial rape accusers do. That is how I know.

The reason why I have perhaps given more background to this than may seem necessary, is that I won't people on here to understand that the types of women AND men, that go back to parties with drugs n drink in hotel rooms etc etc are not usually looking to form the kind of loving relationship as suggested on here, and often do messed up things for no logical reason. Now I am not suggested she was raped or she wasn't raped. The only thing I was challenging was the people saying that because she had a tampon in it was definitely rape.
 
deadon said:
Its all good, I just find it odd that now all the sudden Im on Ignore in his thread over there now and I didnt say anything about this thread. Whatever, just take it all with a grain of salt is all Im saying.
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Hang on. I didn't ignore you as I'm not on the other thread. Why wouldn't I ignore you here as well if that was the case.

Secondly, the guy you posted said he grew up with McGregor playing football. McGregor grew up in crumlin Dublin 12.

I said I live near him, he doesn't live in Dublin. He lives just over the border in Kildare.

Why are you ignoring my posts now. I feel your being very unfair.
 
lakelander said:
I didn't really join this thread to have my character assassinated tbh I was just saying something that I know to be true. As you all asked so nicely I will regale you with the particulars of how I came upon this information, and I am sure it will delight some of you to have the fuel to fire your inspired bitterness toward me, however, for the purposes of the argument this story is 100% true so you can judge me as you wish.

I am in a band and we are based in the UK. We are by no means a famous band, but in our own genre, which is a very small scene in the UK, my band is one of the main support bands for all the famous bands in the genre, and we play gigs from arenas one night, next night a local bar. We all have full-time jobs and we are all skint. My friends are always nagging me to write a book about the incidents I have had with women, but to be perfectly candid both myself and my cousin were 'interfered with' as toddlers and I have always been a bit messed up about sex and relationships and struggled really hard to comprehend the two things as the same. This didn't make me cheat on women, Ive never actually done that, but it left me paranoid about being cheated on, and also when I was single I would literally sleep with any women that would let me, and I am ashamed of the way I used to be. I also was a borderline alcoholic and recreational user of drugs such as cocaine.

Anyway, to get to the tampon. One night I came of stage and a woman made a beeline for me and was being a real nuisance tbh. I was still suffering from the flu and didn't really even feel well enough to be out the house. She was begging and pleading with me to go outside and in her words f**k her, and even had her male friends egging me on to do it, it was getting embarrassing so I caved in and went outside with her. It was actually snowing and freezing cold so after kissing for a few minutes we went back inside and she dragged me into the ladies toilets. So we are there kissing in the cubicle and she starts stripping off in that n trying to get my penis out but it was that cold I actually had two pairs of jeans on lol, and I put my hands down her knickers and feel a piece of string. Then without anything getting any further or otherwise a bouncer comes in bangs on the door kicks us both, and also her previously unknown to me boyfriend out the venue. He didn't have any idea what she was up to. A bit embarrassing to be kicked out your own gig for a failed attempt at sex in the toilets but that is the end of it.

Next day at about 2pm I check my facebook and Ive got a message off the venue saying the police want to talk to me in connection with a rape. At this point I just thought they were trying to be dicks about what had happened but then the police rang our band manager and got my number off him. When I got the phone call I can tell you my heart dropped through my anus so fast it physically hurt when I thought I was gonna get accused of rape, and I told the police officer my account of the events pretty much as I have just given them to you, and then I asked if she was accusing me of rape and as it transpired she had later on that night had sex with someone else and was accusing him of rape and that she had done the same thing on three other blokes in the past 4 weeks and every time she had a tampon in and apparently according to the police officer its something serial rape accusers do. That is how I know.

The reason why I have perhaps given more background to this than may seem necessary, is that I won't people on here to understand that the types of women AND men, that go back to parties with drugs n drink in hotel rooms etc etc are not usually looking to form the kind of loving relationship as suggested on here, and often do messed up things for no logical reason. Now I am not suggested she was raped or she wasn't raped. The only thing I was challenging was the people saying that because she had a tampon in it was definitely rape.
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The tampon thing and the Whatsapp messages are hearsay and cannot be verified. They are moot. What can be verified is that according to the police the female was in fact beaten and raped.

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/irish-sports-accused-rape-assault-arrested
They (a police source) said, “At the end of the day, there is no doubt that this young lady suffered a horrendous ordeal – the examinations and all the evidence shows that she was raped and very badly assaulted in that penthouse suite.”

 
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Death By Samson said:
I agree.

As I've said before I think that it all comes down to whether you believe that the leaked RTE document is legit or not. A journalist asked them about it. If the document is a fake then they could have easily and rightfully said that the document was a forgery but instead they went with 'No comment'. While that can't be considered as 100% proof that the document is legit, their failure to deny it speaks volumes.
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I checked the windows login name at the top of the page on linkedin and it's not a common name really fogartn which I guessed as fogarty (known surname in Ireland) and there is a noel fogarty working in RTE. not impossible to do but beyond most idiots. it's only a shell linkedin but if you google "noel fogarty rte" you will get other results. also there is a twitter profile posting stuff from rte from years ago. basically it's a real person and but also a pretty obscure one to pick if you were trying to fake it.

also the fact that the times in the UK - an actual proper non-tabloid newspaper had an article about the RTE leak adds further credence. they wouldn't do that unless they had a very good indication that it was real.

I think that it's real. that and the fact that there has been no denial from McGregor leaves me in no doubt that he is the accused.
 
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Death By Samson said:
I agree.

As I've said before I think that it all comes down to whether you believe that the leaked RTE document is legit or not. A journalist asked them about it. If the document is a fake then they could have easily and rightfully said that the document was a forgery but instead they went with 'No comment'. While that can't be considered as 100% proof that the document is legit, their failure to deny it speaks volumes.
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I suppose you could have reasonable doubt based on that. It's pretty much an accepted fact here. Everyone's talking about it, even my parents. Any member of the gardai can look up his name in the PULSE system and see if its him, so it was impossible for it not to come out.

He was even reported to be at his solicitors the day the person in question presented themselves. (I could be wrong on that but pretty sure I saw it published as well as heard it.) Edit: couldn't find a published version so most likely heard it.
 
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lakelander said:
I didn't really join this thread to have my character assassinated tbh I was just saying something that I know to be true. As you all asked so nicely I will regale you with the particulars of how I came upon this information, and I am sure it will delight some of you to have the fuel to fire your inspired bitterness toward me, however, for the purposes of the argument this story is 100% true so you can judge me as you wish.

I am in a band and we are based in the UK. We are by no means a famous band, but in our own genre, which is a very small scene in the UK, my band is one of the main support bands for all the famous bands in the genre, and we play gigs from arenas one night, next night a local bar. We all have full-time jobs and we are all skint. My friends are always nagging me to write a book about the incidents I have had with women, but to be perfectly candid both myself and my cousin were 'interfered with' as toddlers and I have always been a bit messed up about sex and relationships and struggled really hard to comprehend the two things as the same. This didn't make me cheat on women, Ive never actually done that, but it left me paranoid about being cheated on, and also when I was single I would literally sleep with any women that would let me, and I am ashamed of the way I used to be. I also was a borderline alcoholic and recreational user of drugs such as cocaine.

Anyway, to get to the tampon. One night I came of stage and a woman made a beeline for me and was being a real nuisance tbh. I was still suffering from the flu and didn't really even feel well enough to be out the house. She was begging and pleading with me to go outside and in her words f**k her, and even had her male friends egging me on to do it, it was getting embarrassing so I caved in and went outside with her. It was actually snowing and freezing cold so after kissing for a few minutes we went back inside and she dragged me into the ladies toilets. So we are there kissing in the cubicle and she starts stripping off in that n trying to get my penis out but it was that cold I actually had two pairs of jeans on lol, and I put my hands down her knickers and feel a piece of string. Then without anything getting any further or otherwise a bouncer comes in bangs on the door kicks us both, and also her previously unknown to me boyfriend out the venue. He didn't have any idea what she was up to. A bit embarrassing to be kicked out your own gig for a failed attempt at sex in the toilets but that is the end of it.

Next day at about 2pm I check my facebook and Ive got a message off the venue saying the police want to talk to me in connection with a rape. At this point I just thought they were trying to be dicks about what had happened but then the police rang our band manager and got my number off him. When I got the phone call I can tell you my heart dropped through my anus so fast it physically hurt when I thought I was gonna get accused of rape, and I told the police officer my account of the events pretty much as I have just given them to you, and then I asked if she was accusing me of rape and as it transpired she had later on that night had sex with someone else and was accusing him of rape and that she had done the same thing on three other blokes in the past 4 weeks and every time she had a tampon in and apparently according to the police officer its something serial rape accusers do. That is how I know.

The reason why I have perhaps given more background to this than may seem necessary, is that I won't people on here to understand that the types of women AND men, that go back to parties with drugs n drink in hotel rooms etc etc are not usually looking to form the kind of loving relationship as suggested on here, and often do messed up things for no logical reason. Now I am not suggested she was raped or she wasn't raped. The only thing I was challenging was the people saying that because she had a tampon in it was definitely rape.
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Are you a troll from a McGregor paid for PR agency, hired to spread false stories to muddy the waters and give his fanboys something to chew with?

FFS, its 2019 so you'll need to be a bit more sophisticated than the above load of rubbish.
 
Grapes said:
I checked the windows login name at the top of the page on linkedin and it's not a common name really fogartn which I guessed as fogarty (known surname in Ireland) and there is a noel fogarty working in RTE. not impossible to do but beyond most idiots. it's only a shell linkedin but if you google "noel fogarty rte" you will get other results. also there is a twitter profile posting stuff from rte from years ago. basically it's a real person and but also a pretty obscure one to pick if you were trying to fake it.

also the fact that the times in the UK - an actual proper non-tabloid newspaper had an article about the RTE leak adds further credence. they wouldn't do that unless they had a very good indication that it was real.

I think that it's real. that and the fact that there has been no denial from McGregor leaves me in no doubt that he is the accused.
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Everything else on the document was reported on the news that day. It's even up on RTE player to see. If we have a time on when it was leaked you could compare it to when the news was reported that day.
 
lakelander said:
No I'm not, and the 'above load of rubbish' is a true story
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I actually tend to belive you.

but as said the tampon thing could be just a made-up detail tbh

the fact that she was "battered and bruised" is more telling to me. ok it would be possible for that to be done to her deliberately but that's a big stretch. a big stretch.

she also has a friend who was out with her that night as a witness going by newspaper reports as they mention getting a statement from her (the police did).
 
Personally I would say that anything that is being said that hasn't been directly released by the police is mere speculation
 
ImNotSurpisedDonks! said:
Sociopath at minimum, and he has always been up front about that. He seemingly has loyalty to those around him at first glance, but upon further inspection, he has nothing to anyone but himself, as he rotates friends every few years: Egan at first, then Artem, then Ward, now the hoodlums, cheated on Dee with everything with a hole, fathered illegitimate kids, etc. He only fakes caring about people and loyalty so he can have loyalty in return. Imagine Dee told him: I'm going going to be having Nate Diaz's baby? He would kill her. Its so funny that with all his success he did not transcend his rough upbringings but instead went back to them. He could have an estate with horses, a personal golf club, indoor pools, but instead he chooses to gang bang and chill in crack homes, act like a 16 year old wanna be gang banger instead of the iconic and inspiring figure that so many thought he would be.
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You're way off with this. Hes still good friends with Ward and Artem, hes still friends with Cian too and hes been travelling to different locations like SBG Naas etc to see his other friends from the martial arts background to support their ventures.
 
Grapes said:
I actually tend to belive you.

but as said the tampon thing could be just a made-up detail tbh

the fact that she was "battered and bruised" is more telling to me. ok it would be possible for that to be done to her deliberately but that's a big stretch. a big stretch.

she also has a friend who was out with her that night as a witness going by newspaper reports as they mention getting a statement from her (the police did).
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That's the most harrowing detail to me too. But to play Devil's advocate. The quote is a second hand quote from an unnamed officer in a tabloid. Injuries consistent with rape could just be evidence of sexual contact and bruises choke marks etc. It doesn't necessarily mean 100% they happened at the same time. The wording may also be chosen for dramatic effect. She was also on here period and they don't specify what articles of clothing where bloody or how bloody.

The facts we have are very muddy and that increases the range of possible scenarios in my view.
 
I guess the very underlying point I am trying to make is that there seems to be a lot of jumping to conclusions based upon speculation and I think it is likely a far more complex situation than for to be able to do that
 
lakelander said:
I guess the very underlying point I am trying to make is that there seems to be a lot of jumping to conclusions based upon speculation and I think it is likely a far more complex situation than for to be able to do that
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Absolutely. It's safe to say something happened and Conor is involved. But, we just cant conclude what happened until all the facts are released, it could be very different to what has been speculated
 
I'm only joking. If any PR Agencies are reading this and want my services however, I would be open to negotiations, but spin doctoring tactics and the like on a brutal rape case is beneath me, as it is also to accuse somebody else of such. I'm all about peace n love
 
At least we can all agree that if this is what happened to that woman then she deserves justice, and whoever has done it should have their liberty removed asap until such a time as they are corrected
 
lakelander said:
I'm only joking. If any PR Agencies are reading this and want my services however, I would be open to negotiations, but spin doctoring tactics and the like on a brutal rape case is beneath me, as it is also to accuse somebody else of such. I'm all about peace n love
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