FALLOUT 4 Official Discussion: Super Stimpak Edition

All the leaked info...no story spoilers...

UPDATED 9:50 GMT.
From the Spanish Forum EOL. http://www.elotrolado.net/hilo_fallout-4-10-de-noviembre_1953109_s2370#p1740147197 and some leaked videos from https://vid.me/kjthemonarch

  • No weapon CONDITION confirmed.
  • The power armor needs a fusion core to run. (!!!) They NOW seem to run out as there's a perk related to its duration.
  • When in power armor our carry weight threshold and our resistance are way higher but we are much slower. We can enter buildings with the PA without any problem.
  • We'll get a message or notification when our settlements are under attack. We have to manage the population, food, security, water...If we let one of our settlements be assaulted we will lose some of our people.
  • NEW PERK (LUCK 6): "You're not idiot...! Just different. Randomly receive three times EXP (experience points) for any action. The lower your intelligence, the greater the chance"
  • NEW PERK (END 9): Ghoul: "Of course, you are still human...Externally! Now radiation regenerates health."
  • NEW PERK (STR 10):Pain Train: " Choo choo! All aboard! If you are equipped with a Power Armor, sprint to the enemies to bash them and hurt them. Robotic and huge enemies wont bash."
  • NEW PERK (PER 7): Reflect: "You are like a mirror! Get +10 resistance to energy damage."
  • NEW PERK (INT 9): Nuclear physicist: "You have learnt to split the atom...and master it! Radiation weapons do 50% more damage and fusion cores last 25% more."
  • In terms of dialogue, often we can choose between an aggressive or a diplomatic way. CHARISMA is key when we have to deal with some situations. It seems that WE CAN'T go back in the dialogue to choose another option. (e g if you decide to choose a theme of conversation you can have other themes cut off.)
  • Now some dialogue options are colored to indicate the chance of success depending on our charisma level (red, orange, green).
  • Confirmed NO HARDCORE mode (thirst/hunger/fatigue). The only difference between the six modes (from very easy to survival) apart from the obvious damage dealt/received multiplier, is the higher the difficulty the greater the chance to find LEGENDARY ENEMIES with a star in their avatar. They are though and more likely to have unique loot than normal enemies.
  • Stealth mode is similar to Skyrim but much more improved according to the tester. Lots of perks related to stealth and theft.
  • NEW type of weapon damage: RADIATION.
  • In character creation we CAN'T choose our height but we CAN modify our body type.
  • COVER SYSTEM is contextual. We don't have to press any button, just walk towards the object we want to cover with (wall,car...) then when we aim we expose ourselves. Similar to MGS TPP as far as I've seen.
  • Loading screens are very similar to Skyrim ones. World objects rotating followed by some information about game mechanics and lore.
  • New radio song already seen in FO3 (Johnny Guitar???): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-iEh2E07Uc
  • We are able to sprint and jump while in PA. Not as slow as we thought.
EDIT: I'm adding some stuff already posted in /fo4 because people keep asking me.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/3r3rgv/spoilers_new_info_about_the_game_live_update/
 
DoMeFavors said:
Also the fact PC gamers are more then happy to buy their games by other means...so in many cases the makers of the games don't get any money from PC sales...or a very small percentage compared to console game sales depending on the source of buying...it's why a lot of PC exclusives are now coming out on consoles...
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I agree. Game development costs have also been steadily increasing to the point where many AAA titles cost over 50 million to produce. The PC market simply cannot support that kind of cost structure. Studios are therefore forced into the console market.

Although budgets are never released publicly, it's interesting to look at estimates of how development costs have changed since the 80's.
http://kotaku.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-make-a-big-video-game-1501413649
 
DoMeFavors said:
Mods on console is a timed exclusive, out on xbox a few months after game launch and confirmed on ps4 but after xbox...I'm glad mods for console versions but they still won't be as great as PC mods...

1-Consoles won't get graphic upgrade mods.
2-Licensing issues. Doubtful any mods with characters that will cause licensing issues will be allowed. Don't expect to see Super Mario running around in Fallout.
3-Nudity mods won't be ok'd.

Consoles will get the handicapped mods
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Ok, I must have missed the part where the ps4 would mod too. For a second there ib was thinking Microsoft pulled something HUGE off.

The no major texture mods makes sense, but you really think no nudes? There is plenty of nudity in games now. Gta had titties everywhere in the club.
 
I don't have a problem with the graphics for a few reasons.

1. They aren't that bad. I like how the buildings, highways, towns are all scaled correctly, spaced well. Sometimes games feel off to me. For whatever reason Fallout just looks more real. The lighting looks good. Vast improvement over 3.

2. Graphics ARE important. But also it's important to feel like the a.i. is not just a hollow shell of a person like in GTA, Witcher 3. It's also important to have stealth. Physics are important. Setting is important. How the environment looks is important (which looked great in in fallout 4). Something Bethesda games do better than others.

AND it's a damn pc game anyway lol. You can mod it and it'll look fantastic. So what's even the point of whining? Just to show that computer game mods from a couple years ago, that maxed out thousands of dollars of high powered GPUs had graphics that were better than modern gaming machines that don't cost thousands to make? Yea that's true. But again if I wanted those graphics (which I do BTW) then buy the PC version.

Maybe I'm missing something.
 
Thunderflash500 said:
Ok, I must have missed the part where the ps4 would mod too. For a second there ib was thinking Microsoft pulled something HUGE off.

The no major texture mods makes sense, but you really think no nudes? There is plenty of nudity in games now. Gta had titties everywhere in the club.
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He announced it in an interview on youtube that it would be coming to ps4 also but Bethesda has always had a good relationship with M$ so they are first...

I know nudity is allowed in gaming but some of those PC modes are full frontal nudity heavy...I don't know if they will allow it...guess we will see...because unlike PC, on consoles they will have to monitor the content before allowing it I would think...
 
Thunderflash500 said:
I don't have a problem with the graphics for a few reasons.

1. They aren't that bad. I like how the buildings, highways, towns are all scaled correctly, spaced well. Sometimes games feel off to me. For whatever reason Fallout just looks more real. The lighting looks good. Vast improvement over 3.

2. Graphics ARE important. But also it's important to feel like the a.i. is not just a hollow shell of a person like in GTA, Witcher 3. It's also important to have stealth. Physics are important. Setting is important. How the environment looks is important (which looked great in in fallout 4). Something Bethesda games do better than others.

AND it's a damn pc game anyway lol. You can mod it and it'll look fantastic. So what's even the point of whining? Just to show that computer game mods from a couple years ago, that maxed out thousands of dollars of high powered GPUs had graphics that were better than modern gaming machines that don't cost thousands to make? Yea that's true. But again if I wanted those graphics (which I do BTW) then buy the PC version.

Maybe I'm missing something.
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of course, we(as in pc gamers) dont give a flying fuck. But the ones i was posting up for xbox 1 look pretty bad.
 
You could be right, I never thought about it. And yea, some mods have cum shots, and some savage gang rapes basically. Wouldn't be shocked if it wasn't allowed. I don't know up to what line will be allowed. Either way I'll be on pc. Hopefully making some mods for people to play.
 
PAUonePUNCH said:
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This is going to be the first time I get a special edition since Morrowind.
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$120. I'll probably go for it.
 
Can't really tell because I'm just looking at the video on my phone but it looks like a better looking, smoother running, crisper combat Fallout. Which is pretty much all I want.
 
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It's so awesome to see Balki Bartakomous tread through the wasteland.
 
DarkKnight81 said:
Can't really tell because I'm just looking at the video on my phone but it looks like a better looking, smoother running, crisper combat Fallout. Which is pretty much all I want.
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its a console, i think still shitbox 1
 
RerouteToRemain said:
Just watched the E3 footage and all I can say is wow. Looks so fucking awesome.
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What a breath of fresh air it is to see all the positive vibe in this thread. Been hanging out in No Mutants Allowed and good God the amount of rage & butthurt all the new mechanics have caused. I'd say it looks very interesting.

(We/Those who miss the originals just got ourselves Wasteland 2. People should stop crying)
 
mihailovich said:
What a breath of fresh air it is to see all the positive vibe in this thread. Been hanging out in No Mutants Allowed and good God the amount of rage & butthurt all the new mechanics have caused. I'd say it looks very interesting.

(We/Those who miss the originals just got ourselves Wasteland 2. People should stop crying)
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I'm a huge fan of fallout 3. And honestly, making settlements, having a dog fetch items, and having a voiced Character don't excite me. But how can someone look at the footage and not be blown away. If you're negative about this game, what game do you enjoy? It will be an incredible.
 
SSgt Dickweed said:
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Originally Posted by LilMountain View Post
Re: "A player should have the option of talking to someone to complete a conflict, or stealing an item to form/end an alliance."

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He didn't like at all the dialogue system, and in 23 hours he's played almost no mission he was able to get out of just by dialogue. Although there was some "X person approved" like in Dragon Age/Mass Effect, there is no visible karma system, and that takes a lot of attractive to the diplomatic side of the game. He checked statics and he didn't see either nothing about reputations like in NV. He thinks it will probably work like in Skyrim and Oblivion.


Disappointed by this also.
 
Thunderflash500 said:
I'm a huge fan of fallout 3. And honestly, making settlements, having a dog fetch items, and having a voiced Character don't excite me. But how can someone look at the footage and not be blown away. If you're negative about this game, what game do you enjoy? It will be an incredible.
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Well, people tend to resist change naturally. Voiced protagonist is what it is, we'll just have to wait and see.

They said that settlement building is completely optional. I HOPE Dogmeat is also optional. Never been a fan of dog companions in Fallout games. I also hope that they have well written human companions ala Veronica Santangelo (New Vegas) or Sulik (Fallout 2).
 
I don't have the best PC, and I really want to play this game, so I don't care about the graphics.
 
As great as everything looks, one of the things I'm most excited for is just exploring Boston. Walking through post apoc Fenway Park will be so fuckin cool.
 
I've waited to buy a PS4 for this game and don't get it until payday next Friday. Such sadness.
 
Yea I'm going to need fallout: shelter to drop on Andoid pronto tonto.
 
Losfer Words said:
It seems to me that the emotional ones are not coming out and saying 'its good enough for me' but rather "the game looks like crap." Your argument that those of us who are not bothered by the graphics are 'sheep with no experience, hardware or understanding' and those who are bothered 'are only a little let down' is a frame that does not reflect this thread and makes you sound manipulative and emotional NOT passionate and educated.
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Well, it's true. A lot of the console shots look wretched. No matter how many times you want to point the finger at me and claim I'm attempting to manipulate it won't make any sense. Why? It's simple....Go read through my posts in this thread and you'll find the most educated breakdown against and for the graphical capability of Fallout 4.

I made a post ripping the graphics, and another praising them. But sure, I'm manipulating the masses to believe my bipolar opinions on a product? Errr, nah. I'm just providing a realistic argument for both sides of the fence while simultaneously mocking the people who don't have the intelligence (or concern, or hardware, or time) to do so.

The reason I said people are acting emotional is because why is it offensive for someone to state the obvious? The only reason someone would avoid expressing a realistic opinion about something is to safe guard the feelings of another person. Much like the example I already used: "Don't tell me my favorite game is going to look bad!" or other absurd examples from people that make no sense.

I don't give a shit if it hurts your feelings. I'm a passionate, technical guy when it comes to these development cycles and that's whats most important to me.

jerzey devil said:
This just reminds me of all of the film students I went to school with. All they do is complain about movies now and why it wasn't shot right or the lighting was wrong. Sounds like working in the industry has ruined gaming for you like going to film school ruined movies for all of those guys I went to school with.
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I studied film in College as well. Yeah, it's really weird that the higher up you go in a selective industry the more educated, passionate and technical the expectations get?

It's almost like educating yourself raises the bar and scope required to assess something in it's totality. Super bizarre isn't it? I wish everyone despite what education they paid for would remain idiotic and pretend they knew nothing to ensure the other 99% of people who didn't invest the time feel better about themselves.
 
mihailovich said:
Well, people tend to resist change naturally. Voiced protagonist is what it is, we'll just have to wait and see.

They said that settlement building is completely optional. I HOPE Dogmeat is also optional. Never been a fan of dog companions in Fallout games. I also hope that they have well written human companions ala Veronica Santangelo (New Vegas) or Sulik (Fallout 2).
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Exactly, it's optional. When I said I want excited, I didn't mean upset. I'm just more into what the actual world is like, how you interact, what advancements did they make immersion wise. I think Todd Howard really gets that stuff, so I'm not worried. And I know a lot of people like things like settlement building. This game looks like it'll be epic for a lot of different types of gamers.
 
tbh dat voiced protagonist could next level this shit for me. Silent player characters are my #1 gripe with Bethesda in general
 
Con Hair said:
Well, it's true. A lot of the console shots look wretched. No matter how many times you want to point the finger at me and claim I'm attempting to manipulate it won't make any sense. Why? It's simple....Go read through my posts in this thread and you'll find the most educated breakdown against and for the graphical capability of Fallout 4.

I made a post ripping the graphics, and another praising them. But sure, I'm manipulating the masses to believe my bipolar opinions on a product? Errr, nah. I'm just providing a realistic argument for both sides of the fence while simultaneously mocking the people who don't have the intelligence (or concern, or hardware, or time) to do so.

The reason I said people are acting emotional is because why is it offensive for someone to state the obvious? The only reason someone would avoid expressing a realistic opinion about something is to safe guard the feelings of another person. Much like the example I already used: "Don't tell me my favorite game is going to look bad!" or other absurd examples from people that make no sense.

I don't give a shit if it hurts your feelings. I'm a passionate, technical guy when it comes to these development cycles and that's whats most important to me.



I studied film in College as well. Yeah, it's really weird that the higher up you go in a selective industry the more educated, passionate and technical the expectations get?

It's almost like educating yourself raises the bar and scope required to assess something in it's totality. Super bizarre isn't it? I wish everyone despite what education they paid for would remain idiotic and pretend they knew nothing to ensure the other 99% of people who didn't invest the time feel better about themselves.
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Your insecurity is showing.
 
Too bad they're not having Obsidian write it. It would have better dialogue if they did.
 
Jing said:
Your insecurity is showing.
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At least you read everything I wrote Jing. For as much as this forum detests feminists and SJW's you guys sure act like a bunch of girls when called out.

:icon_chee

Calling people insecure because they thoroughly explained themselves in a reasonable fashion? Way to encourage the mindless to continue being mindless. If you have nothing to contribute shut up and go back to spectating.
 
The option of building a fortress sounds awesome!
 
Con Hair said:
At least you read everything I wrote Jing. For as much as this forum detests feminists and SJW's you guys sure act like a bunch of girls when called out.

:icon_chee

Calling people insecure because they thoroughly explained themselves in a reasonable fashion? Way to encourage the mindless to continue being mindless. If you have nothing to contribute shut up and go back to spectating.
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Mockery is the most common form of manipulation.
 
Zer said:
tbh dat voiced protagonist could next level this shit for me. Silent player characters are my #1 gripe with Bethesda in general
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Yeah me too. I feel like they addressed any issue I had with Fall Out 3 and New Vegas. I love the voice acted character, and I like the new angle they are taking with conversation. Feels more cinematic to me.

I'm really hyped for this game. Playing Witcher 3 then a couple months later this will be a fantastic 1-2 punch.
 
Jing said:
Mockery is the most common form of manipulation.
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Oh come'on Jing. You really think that ridiculing someone to believe what you believe is the best method of manipulation?

In fact you're demonstrating the total opposite right now.
 
Con Hair said:
Oh come'on Jing. You really think that ridiculing someone to believe what you believe is the best method of manipulation?

In fact you're demonstrating the total opposite right now.
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Thought I recognized you.
 
Thrawn33 said:
Megaton...pshh

I pushed the button and lived the high life.
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Don't know how you live with yourself.

I pushed the button and felt so guilty I immediately started a new character so I could do the right thing. Besides, that elevator music was driving me insane.
 
KidBaize said:
Don't know how you live with yourself.

I pushed the button and felt so guilty I immediately started a new character so I could do the right thing. Besides, that elevator music was driving me insane.
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They were already dead, I just set them free.

Was a nice apt....
 
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