F.C.C. Repeals Net Neutrality Rules... Thanks Trump.

[SaiWa]

A great win for business.

for the huge businesses (like AT&T, Verizon, etc...) yes.. for the smaller ones... not so much...

 

[Breakitdown]

I'm arguing that your assumption that it is good for business is wrong. It's good for certain businesses, but not for many others. And I think it's really bad for consumers, which is the reason I oppose it.

I think the ability to charge what you want for a service you provide is good for business. That's just me, maybe you have a different idea? Lol.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

What...?

Just what?

How would you tax net neutrality? How do you tax an industry standard? This is gibberish. And satellite broadband is not suitable for video streaming which makes it a poor competitor to cable / fiber internet.

Sorry, meant keep the repeal of net neutrality and tax increased revenue. I will edit my post.


And no, average Hughes net speed is at 25mbs which is plenty for most streaming needs. What your thinking of is latency issues but curent 5th gen hardware has that running to near light speed.

I have worked oed on several of the inmarsat 4/5 series for provisioning and data mediation capabilities and they can run up to 50-75 mbps. Viasat new offering will be up to a terabytes.

I use satellite internet for the cottage and runs better than DSL.

 

[deviake]

Either Princeton or Harvard did a study that showed that politicians almost always vote in favor of corporations like95% of the time over what the general public wants.

This is a perfect example

I've read it. If I recall correctly they said that their findings indicate that the United States by definition is no longer a democracy but a plutocracy.

 

[ChainFlow]

Not seeing an issue here? So because it's difficult to start your own ISP we should decide what a business can/can't charge for their service(s)?

What a gruesome pretext.

Do you not know how government market regulation works? In industries with high barriers to entry and little market competition, more regulation is required and typically employed.

Let me know if you need any other really simple questions answered

 

[ChainFlow]

Sorry, meant keep the repeal of net neutrality and tax increased revenue. I will edit my post.


And no, average Hughes net speed is at 25mbs which is plenty for most streaming needs. What your thinking of is latency issues but curent 5th gen hardware has that running to near light speed.

I have worked oed on several of the inmarsat 4/5 series for provisioning and data mediation capabilities and they can run up to 50-75 mbps. Viasat new offering will be up to a terabytes.

I use satellite internet for the cottage and runs better than DSL.

Do they still have data caps? That’s the real impediment to working as a video streaming service. Latency is not much of an issue except for gaming or VOIP+teleconferencing.

 

[Breakitdown]

Do you not know how government market regulation works? In industries with high barriers to entry and little market competition, more regulation is required and typically employed.

Let me know if you need any other really simple questions answered

I didn't think it would take much more than an average-below average level of comprehension to extrapolate my views on market regulation.

I suppose everyone is wrong from time to time.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

I've read it. If I recall correctly they said that their findings indicate that the United States by definition is no longer a democracy but a plutocracy.

Yeah, this is a perfect example. When soemthing is wildly unpopular with the public congress votes in favor of the corporations 9/10 times.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Good to hear. The general public is comprised of cretins for the most part.

Yeah that's why trump is our president.

 

[Rod1]

ChainFlow educated me on how and why Obama appointed him, which is actually useful information which altered my perspective. You ignorantly called names without really explaining anything. I put you in the same category as people who say 'libtard'.

Literally my first response to you was that no more than 3 members can be from a political party which is what Chainflow explained to you. I even posted the rules taken from the FCC page further back in the thread

Maybe read the thread before responding?

 

[Breakitdown]

Yeah, this is a perfect example. When soemthing is wildly unpopular with the public congress votes in favor of the corporations 9/10 times.

Need to bump this up to 9.8+/10 range.

The less sway the "public" has the better.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Need to bump this up to 9.8+/10 range.

The less sway the "public" has the better.

Are you mentally retarded?

 

[ChainFlow]

I didn't think it would take much more than an average-below average level of comprehension to extrapolate my views on market regulation.

I suppose everyone is wrong from time to time.

Well if you realize you have very unusual beliefs about government regulation maybe you shouldn’t ask dumb questions about how regulation works in the real world

 

[D3thr0n3d K1ng]

A common argument I've heard is that less regulation = more competition, and yet it seems a lot of regulation promotes competition (not saying all regulation is good), and as we've seen over the last few decades, deregulation has concentrated corporate power and actually seems to make the market less free.

Because companies dont compete with each other like the official propaganda says, because competing would mean someone might have to take a hit to their profit margins. Easier for a couple players to just stake out claims in different areas and agree to not to compete on price, that way if someone gets the bright idea of going to the other side of town to save money they wont, and will just be stuck with whatever inferior, over priced service they have in their neighborhood.

Im expecting Murkans to go back to dial-up with this ruling, however, its kind of expected, theses companies are still pissed about P2P sharing and piracy so Im sure they see this as a way to get back against that as well.

 

[Breakitdown]

Well if you realize you have very unusual beliefs about government regulation maybe you shouldn’t ask dumb questions about how regulation works in the real world

I thought it would go without saying that the question was rhetorical. I guess I'll have to spell it out -

The question was rhetorical.

Maybe you aren't as equipped to have this discussion as you thought you were? You seem to be filled with laughable outrage and palpable frustration over this wonderful repeal. The discussion seems out of your wheelhouse.

 

[SaiWa]

I think the ability to charge what you want for a service you provide is good for business. That's just me, maybe you have a different idea? Lol.

service and goods?

I am guessing you one of those that's okay with Mylan charging $600 for a pair of epipens?


alrightythen...

 

[kpt018]

I think the ability to charge what you want for a service you provide is good for business. That's just me, maybe you have a different idea? Lol.

ISPs operate regional monopolies and IMO if you want to play in that space you should yield to regulation that protects consumers. That and those companies are allowed to build their infrastructure with the permission of local governments.

Unless you're all about monopolies, lol.

And LMAO at "good for business". Is it good for a business that has to pay higher prices? Not complicated bud.

 

[deviake]

Literally my first response to you was that no more than 3 members can be from a political party which is what Chainflow explained to you. I even posted the rules taken from the FCC page further back in the thread

Maybe read the thread before responding?

I hadn't read the entire thread (and I doubt most people will ever read an entire thread before responding), and he broke it down in detail. I was responding to someone else's post based on what I believed to be an accurate perspective of the situation.

 

[ChainFlow]

I thought it would go without saying that the question was rhetorical. I guess I'll have to spell it out -

The question was rhetorical.

Maybe you aren't as equipped to have this discussion as you thought you were? You seem to be filled with laughable outrage and palpable frustration over this wonderful repeal. The discussion seems out of your wheelhouse.

Keep puffing up, it really makes you seem like a bigger and scarier fish.

You make stupid statements cloaked as questions, you get dismissive answers. Yes, markets ripe for monopoly and abuse are regulated more because that’s how it should be. Sorry.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

oh I'm not arguing FOR it, i'm just wondering if it will be as BAD as others are implying

that's all

I live in the middle of nowhere, w/ 1 internet provider (well for cable, we have one for DSL for the satellite people too) which is TWC/Spectrum. As of now, their services are great, so I hope it doesn't change

My question is why would the big internet providers want to end net Neurality so badly , apparently they have paid lawmakers handsomely to get this done.

I think the answer is pretty clear that they plan on increasing costs to the consumer in some fashion .