i used the search engine to find out what this choke is and just found people mentioning it. so what is it? does anyone have pictures of it?? or describe it i heard some people on the bullshido forums talking about it http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=30170 hope i'm not breaking any rules mods
i get it on blue belts all the time. i find it easier than collar chokes in fact. well from the top at least. i never get it from the bottom also didnt yoshida use it on tamura. I dont think tamura has a white belt skill level
I find totally the opposite once you get this bad boy locked on theyve not got long to escape. I tap higher belts with this all the time. This is the choke that Yoshida beat Royce Gracie with even though he didnt tap!
hamoon is right. it is a pretty effective choke, and one of the very few you can use inside somebody else's guard
the only time i ever use it is from top of half guard or side mount, and i use a variation anyway...i never really liked this choke, but its probably just that i dont know how to use it right. i prefer a basic cross choke from mount or guard.
that's not really the same thing, he is just squeezing the oponents throat, he isn't even grabbing his sleeves...
Hes grabbing his left sleeve with his right hand and his opponents gi with his left. Same choke just a variation.
its effective but I don't know think its a move to be used inside someone else's guard, if you do that, your giving your opponent an easy armbar....