Excuses will be invalid when Gane dominates Jones

[NEETzschean]

Jones is a 4/6 favourite to beat Gane.

Jones and Gane both know that if anyone gets favourable treatment from the officials it will be Jones because Jones is the American fighter, the much bigger name commercially and the UFC wants to avoid a “crisis of legitimacy” post-Ngannou.

A narcissist like Jones wouldn't be taking this fight if he didn't believe he was at or close to his best, he knows that Gane is a serious operator. Jones hasn't got a paycheck-chasing journeyman's mentality, nor is he the kind of fighter who is happy to blemish his record for the love of the sport and he seems to have a keen awareness of his limitations.

Jones' performances against Santos and Reyes were lacklustre but he'd been lineal UFC LHW champion since 2011 and was relatively unmotivated fighting guys he was massively favoured to beat. We'll see a much more motivated Jones against Gane.

Jones no longer has to cut weight, which was draining him to some degree and worsening his performances, especially as he got older.

Jones will be very similar to Gane in weight and is virtually the same height, with a 3.5 inch reach advantage.

There is no Jones footage to study at HW and no Jones footage to study in the last 3 years.

Jones has a massive experience advantage over Gane (15-0 vs 0-1 in title fights) and he's 35 (in the oldest prime age division), not 40+.

If Gane beats Jones it's because he's better than Jones, not because Jones has slipped.

 

[Get To Da Choppa]

If Gane beats Jones it's because he's better than Jones, not because Jones has slipped.

Also Jon only has femtograms instead of his usual picograms

 

[BrockLesnarsTurtleBack]

If Gane beats Jones it's because he's better than Jones, not because Jones has slipped.

Does the same apply to Fedor vs Silva, Hendersson, Werdum?

 

[ferrisjso]

Does the same apply to Fedor vs Silva, Hendersson, Werdum?

I knew this day would come where they hold Jones to standards they call you a hater for holding their Pride stars to. "So what Shogun was 29 he was washed".

Won't be neccessary cause Jones is gonna win but it's still hillarious.

 

[Katsumi Yamada]

Does the same apply to Fedor vs Silva, Hendersson, Werdum?

Fedor was already past his best when he fought Arlovski in Jan 2009 and that's a provable fact.

 

[BrockLesnarsTurtleBack]

Fedor was already past his best when he fought Arlovski in Jan 2009 and that's a provable fact.

And Jon isn't?

 

[NEETzschean]

Does the same apply to Fedor vs Silva, Hendersson, Werdum?

This is not a Fedor thread. I have not studied his career, I don't know whether my comments and observations about Jones would apply to him.

 

[Jose Beehive]

 

[WolverReem]

Jones nuthuggers will still say it's because he was past his prime

 

[FIghtxIQ]

Jones is a 4/6 favourite to beat Gane.

A narcissist like Jones wouldn't be taking this fight if he didn't believe he was at or close to his best, he knows that Gane is a serious operator. Jones hasn't got a paycheck-chasing journeyman's mentality, nor is he the kind of guy who is happy to blemish his record for the love of the sport.

Jones' performances against Santos and Reyes were lacklustre but he'd been lineal UFC LHW champion since 2011 and was likely relatively unmotivated fighting guys he was massively favoured to beat. We'll see a more motivated Jones against Gane.

Jones will be very similar to Gane in weight and is virtually the same height, with a 3.5 inch reach advantage.

There is no Jones footage to study at HW and no Jones footage to study in the last 3 years.

Jones has a massive experience advantage over Gane (15-0 vs 0-1 in title fights) and he's 35, not 40+.

If Gane beats Jones it's because he's better than Jones, not because Jones has slipped.

You forgot the most important factor, Jones hasn't been able to fight and make money for over 3 years. So him chasing a paycheck in this situation is a big factor. What other income does he have besides fighting? He also needs this paycheck. Same reason Cejudo unretired after a few years.

Jones does have a bit of the element of surprise though. Like you mentioned there is no fight footage of him for over 3 years. Just a few training footage that Jones releases but not actual fight/sparring footage. So it's hard to gauge where he's really at in terms of skill and conditioning.

 

[Mind Mine]

Jones is a 4/6 favourite to beat Gane.

A narcissist like Jones wouldn't be taking this fight if he didn't believe he was at or close to his best, he knows that Gane is a serious operator. Jones hasn't got a paycheck-chasing journeyman's mentality, nor is he the kind of guy who is happy to blemish his record for the love of the sport.

Jones' performances against Santos and Reyes were lacklustre but he'd been lineal UFC LHW champion since 2011 and was likely relatively unmotivated fighting guys he was massively favoured to beat. We'll see a more motivated Jones against Gane.

Jones will be very similar to Gane in weight and is virtually the same height, with a 3.5 inch reach advantage.

There is no Jones footage to study at HW and no Jones footage to study in the last 3 years.

Jones has a massive experience advantage over Gane (15-0 vs 0-1 in title fights) and he's 35, not 40+.

If Gane beats Jones it's because he's better than Jones, not because Jones has slipped.

Jones would be the firstfighter in the history of the sport to return to face a legitimate title contender after a 3 year layoff and zero tuneup fights. Don’t even try that GSP vs Ping shit. There is zero excuse in a fistfight. You either win or you lose but you sound pretty dumb with this thread

 

[NEETzschean]

Jones would be the firstfighter in the history of the sport to return to face a legitimate title contender after a 3 year layoff and zero tuneup fights. Don’t even try that GSP vs Ping shit. There is zero excuse in a fistfight. You either win or you lose but you sound pretty dumb with this thread

Not interested. Sugar Ray Leonard came off three years of inactivity and a crack cocaine addiction to beat the naturally bigger middleweight champion Marvin Hagler.

 

[NEETzschean]

You forgot the most important factor, Jones hasn't been able to fight and make money for over 3 years. So him chasing a paycheck in this situation is a big factor. What other income does he have besides fighting? He also needs this paycheck. Same reason Cejudo unretired after a few years.

Jones does have a bit of the element of surprise though. Like you mentioned there is no fight footage of him for over 3 years. Just a few training footage that Jones releases but not actual fight/sparring footage. So it's hard to gauge where he's really at in terms of skill and conditioning.

If Jones was broke then that would have serious merit but I don't think his economic situation is forcing him to take this fight. He's a multimillionaire and no doubt has other ways of making money (investments, teaching martial arts, employment in the UFC, gigs with Hollywood etc.)

 

[Mind Mine]

Not interested. Sugar Ray Leonard came off three years of inactivity and a crack cocaine addiction to beat the naturally bigger middleweight champion Marvin Hagler.

What part of the history of the sport did you not understand

 

[NEETzschean]

What part of the history of the sport did you not understand

What part of "Not interested." did you not understand?

 

[TITS]

Jon is going to make Gane look like an amateur.

 

[Mind Mine]

What part of "Not interested." did you not understand?

Well expecting someone to do something unprecedented and if they don’t you licking your chops like there is no excuse blah blah blah in advance is dumb as shit. If he loses he simply lost like every fighter on the roster who lost. It definitely doesn’t destroy his accomplishments

 

[Gregoire1]

And vice versa.

 

[UFCFantasyMVP]

The breakdown wasn't terrible. But if domination happens, Gane didn't win that fight.

 

[jk7707]

We talk about fighters' "primes". Jon has been fighting for 15 years as a pro at this point. He looked very beatable in his last 2 fights 3+ years ago. Now he's moving up and fighting a guy who is definitely in his prime in Gane. He's not going to win this fight.