Evidence of Jones' Guilt

Taco Loco said:
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r-harper-1 said:
Sometimes the dudes that try to kill one another in a cage .... don’t always have the highest morals
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They actually aren't trying to kill eachother.

Khabib could've easily killed Conor when he had his neck.
 
JJSBUR said:
This forum does indeed have some of the worst people as members.
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Really ???? I’ve been on here over a decade and I’ve yet to have an infraction n.... Everyone that meets me ... likes me ..... what makes you such a high level sherdogger?
 
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RawkyMarciano said:
Keep deluding yourself, scum-bag supporter. He's a PED using cheater who got popped 3 times, minimum. He's done. Nothing he can say or do will change his status from being a cheating coward.

Cheaters never prosper.

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acannxr said:
Jan 2015: Jones has a suspiciously low T/E ratio that deviates 80% from his previous reading; USADA was not in effect at this time.

Mar 2016: Frank Mir, teammate of Jon Jones, fails drug test for Oral Turinabol.

Jul 2016: Jones tests positive for Clomiphene and Letrozole.
  • Jones allegedly claims to have ingested a penis pill.
  • The penis pill, however, contained a third banned substance, of which Jones did not test positive for.
  • Jones claimed his friend gave him the penis pill.
  • This friend provided an invoice for the purchase of the penis pill, and on the same invoice was an order for Clomiphene (one of the two substances Jones was flagged for).
  • Common sense dictates that Jones used a middle-man to purchase his PEDs, and bought the penis pill preemptively as an excuse in case he got caught, but never actually ingested the penis pill, otherwise the third banned substance would've shown up.
Apr 2017: Frank Mir receives a two year suspension as a first time offender for Oral Turinabol.

Aug 2017: During his FOX interview, Jones slips up and says that he defeated Cormier "off steroids". His silence afterwards says more than any words could.



Aug 2017: Jones tests positive for Oral Turinabol, the same substance teammate Frank Mir tested positive for back in March of 2016.

February 2018: During Jones' CSAC hearing, it's discovered that:
  • He failed to report 10 supplements to United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) prior to his performance at UFC 214, despite signing a document that said he did, and that he only disclosed their existence when they were sent to the lab to be tested for banned substances (after his failed drug test).
  • Jones admitted he never watched mandated tutorials provided by USADA in both 2015 and 2016, instead passing them off to his management to take in his place (including having them forge his signature to confirm that he took said tutorials).
Precedent:


Cerrone recently said that JacksonWink's main wrestling coach used to be a junior assistant coach at some no-name college and was fired for selling kids steroids:
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And if USADA gives Jones anything less than 4 years, it'd not only open USADA up to litigation from fighters who received harsher punishments for equal or lesser offenses, but WADA would step in and override it:


Additionally, if USADA gave Jones anything less than 4 years, it'd set a precedent that any second-time offender could cite in order to receive a shorter suspension (either to USADA or in court).

October 2017-August 2018:

Jones is not tested at any point by USADA.

September 2018:

Jones received 4 years, but was able to get his suspension reduced to 15 months as a result of snitching; the 4 year suspension can still be reinstated if Jones' snitching doesn't pan out.

December 2018:

Jones tests positive for turinabol:
12/9/18: 60 pg/ml

NSAC denies Jones a license.

It's been reported that Jones failed an additional three drug tests:
7/28/18: 80 pg/ml
8/29/18: 8 pg/ml
9/18/18: 19 pg/ml

Note that these three failed drug tests pre-date the change in the UFC's announcement policy for failed USADA drug tests, which means that all three of these tests should have been announced to the public, but they were covered up by the UFC/USADA.

USADA also had a "technical issue" much in the same way as they did with Lesnar:

By @-Dim- 's own numbers, Jones didn't make his first appearance in the USADA database until Aug 15th:


Yet Jones' test back in July was not listed in the USADA database.
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I am a bit on the fence.

I dont trust jon jones at all.

That the said, the following argument is still plausible:

-pulsing theory
-no short or medium term metabolites
-u would not microdose turinibol

So what is the specific scientific counter argument?
 
Oiler said:
I am a bit on the fence.

I dont trust jon jones at all.

That the said, the following argument is still plausible:

-pulsing theory
-no short or medium term metabolites
-u would not microdose turinibol

So what is the specific scientific counter argument?
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The guy is already saying he will test positive at the post fight presser. He's a cheating coward who needs the advantage to beat his competition. He's more lucky that it was the worst Gustafson in the cage with him with no gameness and eagerness to finish or hurt Jon. Jon PED Jones is a cheater and always has been one.
 
RawkyMarciano said:
The guy is already saying he will test positive at the post fight presser. He's a cheating coward who needs the advantage to beat his competition. He's more lucky that it was the worst Gustafson in the cage with him with no gameness and eagerness to finish or hurt Jon. Jon PED Jones is a cheater and always has been one.
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All due respect, i understand these arguments

I want the scientific rebuttal to the novitsky argument.

Of course, if jones pissed hot again, we will have new info. But if there is a scientific rebuttal to novitsky, id really like to hear it.
 
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