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Evidence of Jones' Guilt

paynebringer said:
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Blah, blah, blah, which hero of yours did Jon rip through, got you so bitter...
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Hahaha
 
acannxr said:
Jan 2015: Jones has a suspiciously low T/E ratio that deviates 80% from his previous reading; USADA was not in effect at this time.

Mar 2016: Frank Mir, teammate of Jon Jones, fails drug test for Oral Turinabol.

Jul 2016: Jones tests positive for Clomiphene and Letrozole.
  • Jones allegedly claims to have ingested a penis pill.
  • The penis pill, however, contained a third banned substance, of which Jones did not test positive for.
  • Jones claimed his friend gave him the penis pill.
  • This friend provided an invoice for the purchase of the penis pill, and on the same invoice was an order for Clomiphene (one of the two substances Jones was flagged for).
  • Common sense dictates that Jones used a middle-man to purchase his PEDs, and bought the penis pill preemptively as an excuse in case he got caught, but never actually ingested the penis pill, otherwise the third banned substance would've shown up.
Apr 2017: Frank Mir receives a two year suspension as a first time offender for Oral Turinabol.

Aug 2017: During his FOX interview, Jones slips up and says that he defeated Cormier "off steroids". His silence afterwards says more than any words could.



Aug 2017: Jones tests positive for Oral Turinabol, the same substance teammate Frank Mir tested positive for back in March of 2016.

February 2018: During Jones' CSAC hearing, it's discovered that:
  • He failed to report 10 supplements to United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) prior to his performance at UFC 214, despite signing a document that said he did, and that he only disclosed their existence when they were sent to the lab to be tested for banned substances (after his failed drug test).
  • Jones admitted he never watched mandated tutorials provided by USADA in both 2015 and 2016, instead passing them off to his management to take in his place (including having them forge his signature to confirm that he took said tutorials).
Precedent:


Cerrone recently said that JacksonWink's main wrestling coach used to be a junior assistant coach at some no-name college and was fired for selling kids steroids:
(Timestamped)


And if USADA gives Jones anything less than 4 years, it'd not only open USADA up to litigation from fighters who received harsher punishments for equal or lesser offenses, but WADA would step in and override it:


Additionally, if USADA gave Jones anything less than 4 years, it'd set a precedent that any second-time offender could cite in order to receive a shorter suspension (either to USADA or in court).

September 2018:

Jones received 4 years, but was able to get his suspension reduced to 15 months as a result of snitching; the 4 year suspension can still be reinstated if Jones' snitching doesn't pan out.

December 2018:

Jones tests positive for turinabol, again.
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What a fantastic thread.
 
His 30 for 30 is going to be a 3 part series at this pace of fucking up
 
Holy shit i woke up and ended up in the war room to answewr a couple of posts come on here and see all the bumped posts and think folk trolling.

Hol,y fucking shit!
 
acannxr said:
Jan 2015: Jones has a suspiciously low T/E ratio that deviates 80% from his previous reading; USADA was not in effect at this time.

Mar 2016: Frank Mir, teammate of Jon Jones, fails drug test for Oral Turinabol.

Jul 2016: Jones tests positive for Clomiphene and Letrozole.
  • Jones allegedly claims to have ingested a penis pill.
  • The penis pill, however, contained a third banned substance, of which Jones did not test positive for.
  • Jones claimed his friend gave him the penis pill.
  • This friend provided an invoice for the purchase of the penis pill, and on the same invoice was an order for Clomiphene (one of the two substances Jones was flagged for).
  • Common sense dictates that Jones used a middle-man to purchase his PEDs, and bought the penis pill preemptively as an excuse in case he got caught, but never actually ingested the penis pill, otherwise the third banned substance would've shown up.
Apr 2017: Frank Mir receives a two year suspension as a first time offender for Oral Turinabol.

Aug 2017: During his FOX interview, Jones slips up and says that he defeated Cormier "off steroids". His silence afterwards says more than any words could.



Aug 2017: Jones tests positive for Oral Turinabol, the same substance teammate Frank Mir tested positive for back in March of 2016.

February 2018: During Jones' CSAC hearing, it's discovered that:
  • He failed to report 10 supplements to United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) prior to his performance at UFC 214, despite signing a document that said he did, and that he only disclosed their existence when they were sent to the lab to be tested for banned substances (after his failed drug test).
  • Jones admitted he never watched mandated tutorials provided by USADA in both 2015 and 2016, instead passing them off to his management to take in his place (including having them forge his signature to confirm that he took said tutorials).
Precedent:


Cerrone recently said that JacksonWink's main wrestling coach used to be a junior assistant coach at some no-name college and was fired for selling kids steroids:
(Timestamped)


And if USADA gives Jones anything less than 4 years, it'd not only open USADA up to litigation from fighters who received harsher punishments for equal or lesser offenses, but WADA would step in and override it:


Additionally, if USADA gave Jones anything less than 4 years, it'd set a precedent that any second-time offender could cite in order to receive a shorter suspension (either to USADA or in court).

September 2018:

Jones received 4 years, but was able to get his suspension reduced to 15 months as a result of snitching; the 4 year suspension can still be reinstated if Jones' snitching doesn't pan out.

December 2018:

Jones tests positive for turinabol, again.
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Your point about there being no proof that he took the dick pill is excellent. USADA is a farce.
 
The Moloko man said:
Has anybody ever compiled a list of fighters that had unusual t/e levels, high lutenizing hormone levels, watery samples etc?

So far I got

*jones

*cormier

*weidman

*lawlor
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Cormiers were not unusual. Jones were off the scale. Provide the proof or piss off and retract your statement. Fool

"The deviation between Cormier's ratios was 8% (ten times less than Jones' 80% deviation). Cormier was also 36 years old, while Jones was 27 years old, which is why Jones' levels and deviation are highly suspicious and relevant to the question of his guilt." Credit to TS
 
I'm not personally subscribed to this belief 95% of elite level athletes take peds.

Jon Jones is more wealthy than most fighters in the Ufc roster, so is Brock and both have popped. I find it hard to believe lesser paid guys in the Ufc are only passing because they're on a more advanced (meaning more expensive) steroid cycle.

That's not to say there won't be some cheats who'll go their whole career uncaught. I just don't believe they're all on peds, someone like Mark Hunt... you don't flip out as psychotically as he does over people being on steroids if you're not clean.

There are a lot of people that do peds at the highest level, but I think there is just as many that don't. I'm not an advocate of them being allowed, as that basically makes it compulsory. No one should be forced to take drugs that have severe potential side effects if they want to pursue a sport they're passionate about. People also seem to forget most peds are illegal to take without a serious medical reason/prescription anyways.
 
Craisier said:
I'm not personally subscribed to this belief 95% of elite level athletes take peds.

Jon Jones is more wealthy than most fighters in the Ufc roster, so is Brock and both have popped. I find it hard to believe lesser paid guys in the Ufc are only passing because they're on a more advanced (meaning more expensive) steroid cycle.

That's not to say there won't be some cheats who'll go their whole career uncaught. I just don't believe they're all on peds, someone like Mark Hunt... you don't flip out as psychotically as he does over people being on steroids if you're not clean.

There are a lot of people that do peds at the highest level, but I think there is just as many that don't. I'm not an advocate of them being allowed, as that basically makes it compulsory. No one should be forced to take drugs that have severe potential side effects if they want to pursue a sport they're passionate about. People also seem to forget most peds are illegal to take without a serious medical reason/prescription anyways.
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Stop trying to sympathise for PED using cowards.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Jon PED Jones has been proven guilty 3 times, minimum.

Once a cheater, forever a cheater!
 
RawkyMarciano said:
Stop trying to sympathise for PED using cowards.

Innocent until proven guilty.

Jon PED Jones has been proven guilty 3 times, minimum.

Once a cheater, forever a cheater!
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I was being pretty anti peds fam. Don't see how you saw it otherwise.

I'm disgusted with Jones and hope he gets heckled. Also hoping Gus beats him, but I doubt it.
 
Craisier said:
I was being pretty anti peds fam. Don't see how you saw it otherwise.

I'm disgusted with Jones and hope he gets heckled. Also hoping Gus beats him, but I doubt it.
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Thanks bro. Stay on the good side.
 
acannxr said:
Aug 2017: During his FOX interview, Jones slips up and says that he defeated Cormier "off steroids". His silence afterwards says more than any words could.
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I think this part is pretty shitty “evidence” because jones isn’t s great speaker and assuming “off” means “once on” is too big of an assumption when it’s most likely just bad verbiage. And is it even bad verbiage? Does off something mean you were once on? I don’t even know.
 
SherdogJoe said:
I think this part is pretty shitty “evidence” because jones isn’t s great speaker and assuming “off” means “once on” is too big of an assumption when it’s most likely just bad verbiage. And is it even bad verbiage? Does off something mean you were once on? I don’t even know.
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He's a cheater. That's all that matters.
 
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