Social Even Democrats now agree : No Russian Collusion

[lifelessheap]

Whatever happens, the law is the law and let the chips fall where they may.

I wish the law applied to the Clinton's. Fuck.

 

[MikeMcMann]

The Mueller investigation is and always was supposed to find out whether Trump colluded with Russia to win the Election.
...

No, it was not.

You are FACTUALLY wrong and that is the problem with having stupid people in this discussion who do not read what the Mueller Investigation was convened for. It has been a massive success.

 

[King in the North]

HAHA NOT EVEN 40 INDICTMENTS. SUCK IT LIBRUHLS. MAGA 2020.


Better hope you’re not spiking the ball at the 50 yard line.

 

[HunterSdVa29]

still astonished that the DNC was hacked, apparently by a lethal spearphishing attempt, and then a Transoceanic download occurred of data faster than was even possible by 'Russians'.....
hahahaha sure

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

I wish the law applied to the Clinton's. Fuck.

Care to provide factual evidence of Clintons breaking the law? TRUmp had 2 years of a GOP congress and his own appointees over at the DOJ and they had nothing. Yet you actually believe the laws don't apply to the Clintons?

 

[franklinstower]

And the EXPECTED Nothing-Burger has finally arrived.<Lmaoo><Lmaoo><Lmaoo><Lmaoo><Lmaoo>

#WitchHuntAllButOver #MAGA2020




When even the Fake News media is reporting there is no Collusion, then you know there is no Collusion and I'm sure this hurt a ton for those leftist assholes to report.

And I couldn't be more pleased.


Finally, we can all move on from this.

I don't agree. Deep state reptilian demons would never admit to being wrong.

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

This is how people know you don't read the indictments.

Dont give me none of your horseshit you mainstream media hack. Stone was investigated because of alleged ties to WIKILEAKS...which is NOT a Russian site.

Its a witch hunt to punish those that supported Trump all using British spy information paid for by Clinton and pushed by a beta male FBI agent screwing someone helping make the dossier all while promising to stop Trump.

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

Care to provide factual evidence of Clintons breaking the law?

Guy supporting a 2 year long witch hunt with zero evidence demands you wait for them to find it all while protecting Clinton because there is no "proof" of wrong-doing all while having an actual history of protecting Russia while receiving an insane amount of money from them...

TDS, it makes a retard out of everyone that has it.

 

[King of Fists]

To summarize the OP:

-The media is totally legit when they something I agree with

- This same media is totally fake when they say things I disagree with

Doesn't the new right wing playbook for dummies ever get tiring, even for simpletons like the OP?

 

[panamaican]

What does an investigation started on a dossier paid for by a person with previous ties to Russia to undermine her political opponent...

The TDS is strong with this one.

You realize that there is an actual investigation that we're discussing? With various different findings over the past 2 years. You can discuss the Senate intelligence committee findings instead of changing to other topics. I'll just repeat myself since it's entirely about the Senate Intelligence Committee and their findings:

Bit of an exaggeration but I understand the need for spin. Despite members of the Trump campaign having over 100 contacts with the Russian government before the inauguration and finding that the Russian government intentionally attempted to influence the election, they did not find any direct evidence of conspiracy.

People with no real interest in reality will say "See, 0 collusion."


Facially, yet superficially, accurate which is enough to hang your hat on if you need to.

Here's what Burr finished his statement with:

“What I’m telling you is that I’m going to present, as best we can, the facts to you and to the American people,” Burr told CBS. “And you’ll have to draw your own conclusion as to whether you think that, by whatever definition, that’s collusion.”

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/02/12/the-senate-intelligence-committee-has-not-cleared-trump/

Not a clearance of no collusion but a statement that you will have to look at the evidence and then decide if it's collusion to you or not.

If you're going to respond try to keep it in the realm of the SIC and their conclusions, reports, and statements.

 

[MikeMcMann]

Crimes that have nothing to do with Trump and Russian Collusion...last big arrest was of a person lying about something else.

Stone "has been under the microscope over his alleged connection to WikiLeaks" Last I checked WIkileaks was NOT A RUSSIAN site.

100% total witch hunt. This is a RUSSIAN COLLUSION investigation. All they are doing is trying to find the tiniest dirt on everyone that supported Trump.

Crimes that have EVERYTHING to do with Muellers mandate.

----------

Robert S. Mueller III is appointed t() serve as Specia] Counsel for the United States

Department of Justice.
(b)

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confinned by then-FBI

Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on
Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i)

any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

(c)

(ii)

any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and

(iii)

any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).

If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is

authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

I miss the good ole days when right wingers called everyone a socialist, Marxist, Commie.

Now it’s all “fake news, fake news, main stream media, main stream media.”

I wonder what their next parroting phrase will be.

 

[chardog]

More than Manafort...

"Mueller's team has now charged eight Americans once affiliated with Trump's campaign or administration, 13 Russian nationals, 12 Russian intelligence officers, three Russian companies, and two other people."

https://www.businessinsider.com/who-has-been-charged-in-russia-investigation-mueller-trump-2017-12

But I'm sure you knew this already.

the whole premise that Russia played a part into our election is an absolute joke and fake news.

You're not looking at the big picture, and that's why this has been compared to a witch hunt.

The premise that Russia won the election for Trump isnt remotely true, just like Sorcery that got witches hung, wasn't real.

 

[MikeMcMann]

You realize that there is an actual investigation that we're discussing? With various different findings over the past 2 years. You can discuss the Senate intelligence committee findings instead of changing to other topics. I'll just repeat myself since it's entirely about the Senate Intelligence Committee and their findings:

Bit of an exaggeration but I understand the need for spin. Despite members of the Trump campaign having over 100 contacts with the Russian government before the inauguration and finding that the Russian government intentionally attempted to influence the election, they did not find any direct evidence of conspiracy.

People with no real interest in reality will say "See, 0 collusion."


Facially, yet superficially, accurate which is enough to hang your hat on if you need to.

Here's what Burr finished his statement with:

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2019/02/12/the-senate-intelligence-committee-has-not-cleared-trump/

Not a clearance of no collusion but a statement that you will have to look at the evidence and then decide if it's collusion to you or not.

If you're going to respond try to keep it in the realm of the SIC and their conclusions, reports, and statements.

"Collusion" is an umbrella term, which as you know specifically is not defined in law in this regard. What collusion means in the context of this investigation of 'links and coordination' between Trump Campaign and/or Trump himself and Russia.

So allowing people to say 'No Collusion, no collusion' when collusion itself will never be charged is just a distraction technique.

It would be like saying 'Killing' is not a crime and saying the proof is the person was charged with murder or manslaughter and not 'killing'. Killing is the umbrella term but not the charge.

As you know Mueller has ALREADY found and proven links and coordination between Trump Campaign folk that has resulted in many guilty verdicts or pleas. His investigation has already been a massive success in terms of draining the swamp and delivering on his mandate.

 

[*Z*]

Why do people believe the senate investigation was anything other than bullshit? Do people really believe it's as in depth and far reaching as the Mueller probe? This feels just like the house investigation and the Nunes memo. Trump was cleared!

I'll wait until the actual investigation is complete before I draw any conclusions.

 

[Bobby 3 Sticks]

Dont give me none of your horseshit you mainstream media hack. Stone was investigated because of alleged ties to WIKILEAKS...which is NOT a Russian site.

Its a witch hunt to punish those that supported Trump all using British spy information paid for by Clinton and pushed by a beta male FBI agent screwing someone helping make the dossier all while promising to stop Trump.

Lol @ calling me a mainstream media hack but you can't even read the indictments . I get that those are tough reads when your main reading material is the 5th grade level tweets of one Donald J tRUmp.

Let's look at wikileaks Russian connections

CIA and Nat Intel drafter a dual memo which outlines Russian Activities and intentions in recent elections. In that report here is what they said

"
Moscow’s influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert
intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government
agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or “trolls.”
Russia, like its Soviet predecessor, has a history of conducting covert influence campaigns focused on US
presidential elections that have used intelligence officers and agents and press placements to disparage
candidates perceived as hostile to the Kremlin.
 Russia’s intelligence services conducted cyber operations against targets associated with the 2016 US
presidential election, including targets associated with both major US political parties.
 We assess with high confidence that Russian military intelligence (General Staff Main Intelligence
Directorate or GRU) used the Guccifer 2.0 persona and DCLeaks.com to release US victim data obtained in cyber operations publicly and in exclusives to media outlets and relayed material to WikiLeaks...

We assess with high confidence that the GRU relayed material it acquired from the DNC and senior Democratic officials to WikiLeaks. Moscow most likely chose WikiLeaks because of its self-proclaimed reputation for authenticity. Disclosures
through WikiLeaks did not contain any evident forgeries.
 In early September, Putin said publicly it was important the DNC data was exposed to WikiLeaks, calling the search for the source of the leaks a distraction and denying Russian “state-level” involvement.
 The Kremlin’s principal international
propaganda outlet RT (formerly Russia Today) has actively collaborated with WikiLeaks. RT’s editor-in-chief visited WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London
in August 2013, where they discussed renewing his broadcast contract with RT, according to Russian and Western media. Russian media subsequently announced that RT had become "the only Russian media company" to partner with WikiLeaks and had received access to
"new leaks of secret information." RT routinely gives Assange sympathetic coverage and provides him a platform to denounce the United States."

And there's even more in there.

But I know you're already going to believe Russia over American intelligence.

Guy supporting a 2 year long witch hunt with zero evidence demands you wait for them to find it all while protecting Clinton because there is no "proof" of wrong-doing all while having an actual history of protecting Russia while receiving an insane amount of money from them...

TDS, it makes a retard out of everyone that has it.

Except there's zero proof of Clinton wrongdoing through multiple congressional inquiries . It'd help if you just admitted you got conned by Gowdy, Flynn, Q, tRUmp, etc .

A witch hunt doesn't result in convictions much less the amount of ones that this OSC has racked up . A true witch hunt is the Whitewater 8 year investigation that resulted in one charge and that's it .

 

[MikeMcMann]

Dated as there are more now but I like the format.


All of Trump’s Russia Ties, in 7 Charts


By MICHAEL CROWLEY


March/April 2017

1. Trump and Putin, via Administration Officials

__________


2. Trump and Putin, via Michael Flynn

__________


3. Trump and Putin, via Campaign Advisers

__________


4. Trump and Putin, via Paul Manafort

__________


5. Trump and Putin, via Business Ties

__________


6. Trump and Putin, via Felix Sater

__________


7. Trump and Putin, via Trump Family Members

 

[MikeMcMann]

Why do people believe the senate investigation was anything other than bullshit? Do people really believe it's as in depth and far reaching as the Mueller probe? This feels just like the house investigation and the Nunes memo. Trump was cleared!

I'll wait until the actual investigation is complete before I draw any conclusions.

Exactly.

When the Repub's controlled Congress they would not even follow up with many witnesses in the Trump Campaign and orbit that it became clear had lied to them. They would not allow Mueller full access to the transcripts or info for his investigation. Instead they said they were busy with other aspects that were more important. More important than lying to Congress. lol. Imagine letting witnesses know they come before Congress and lie and get away with it. Congress becomes impotent in investigations once that word gets out.

Anyone believing any Republican lead investigation was ever going to come up with anything is stupid and lying to themselves. and while lying to themselves is OK just don't expect the rest of us to have to follow them down the stupid path. it too crowded with Trumpbots.

 

[Ophydian]

Any time you conservatives get this excited about the Russian investigation it usually blows up in yalls face.

 

[bobgeese]

Dated as there are more now but I like the format.


All of Trump’s Russia Ties, in 7 Charts


By MICHAEL CROWLEY


March/April 2017

1. Trump and Putin, via Administration Officials

__________


2. Trump and Putin, via Michael Flynn

__________


3. Trump and Putin, via Campaign Advisers

__________


4. Trump and Putin, via Paul Manafort

__________


5. Trump and Putin, via Business Ties

__________


6. Trump and Putin, via Felix Sater

__________


7. Trump and Putin, via Trump Family Members

6 degrees of Putin...