Movies ETERNALS (Opens $71M in U.S., $161.7M Globally; Lowest Rated MCU Film on RT)

If you have seen ETERNALS, how would you rate it?


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Yeah the Speed effects for Makkari are awesome worthy of Mercury , considering how fast she got to the otherside of the Planet easily the MCU's fastest speedster , although Ikaris is full space flight might rival it. The liked also that all the Eternals despite having their own skill sets are also very durable, Ikaris gave Druig a Full blast of his lasers and he still survived it.

It will be cool to see the X-Men with the full MCU effects budget. Although Cyclops eye blasts are heat lasers they are more of a concussion blast it will be cool to see his effects .

Absolutely. I liked the durability element. They conveyed that well.
 
Another thing

I liked some of the nuanced character elements and the fact that the film did not always go for the most cliched route. As soon as Kumail bowed out, indicating that he would support the plan whereby they allowed the celestial to emerge, I figured that he was too clouded by his respect for Ikarus and he would clearly come back at the 11th hour to face off against him to enable Sersi and co. to finish the job. It didn't happen. I thought that was interesting if only because it didn't fit right into the most conventional way they could have had that narrative play out.

It also begged the question of why he would suddenly change from wanting to thwart the Celestial's birth to allowing it. But the movie did a decent enough job of showing that Ikarus could sway opinions there by virtue of being considered the de facto leader. This is similar to the way Sprite abandons the gameplan, too. I thought that added an interesting dynamic that Sersi is clearly qualified to lead and clearly powerful but was underestimated a bit, even to the extent that a few of the Eternals would defer to Madden instead despite the fact that she had been chosen as Hayek's successor.

One other thing that I liked was how Madden's cover story of why he left Sersi didn't seem to entirely hold water. To me, the film pretty heavily implied that he didn't leave her so much because he was worried he wouldn't be able to prevent himself from telling her the truth of Earth's destiny, but more so because he wanted to make it easier for himself to stick to that protocol. It would be far more devastating to him to have to accept a different existence with a different memory, without her by his side if they remained together. By keeping his distance, he could make that fate more palatable.

Yeah , Zhao put some obvious thought into how she directed and crafted the story, a little ambitious considering it still has to fit into the MVU framework but I like that distinctly, you can tell the her style is different from the other MCU directors.
 
Patty Jenkins did just fine with Wonder Woman (2017). DC or Marvel, mediocre is mediocre.

Just take the L homie

*Like (sorry used them all up in the 268 pbp)

Dude stop making sense. But seriously it's hilarious to see them shit on the Critics now. No idea why some people just gotta dig deeper.
 
Once again, the audience score tells a different story than these so called movie “experts”.

At the end of the day, it’s all just another opinion, and a person is best suited to form one of their own by experiencing it for themselves.

I’m sure I will enjoy the movie. My personal opinion is that like said previously, this would have been better suited as an InHumans vehicle, but they already sullied that franchise by trying to make them the MCU version of “mutants” before getting the rights back to XMen.

I also love the guys in here that traditionally shit on the MCU, but still watch the movies just for the sake of shitting on them again. How’s anyone gonna take them seriously when they have a clear bias, just the same as folks should take my opinion with a grain of salt since I am clearly “pro” biased towards the MCU.

How many of those are Pakistani dudes paid by Disney to review-bomb?
 
the so Sprite, you want to be human part definitely felt painfully tacked on and contrived lol. Pretty convenient Gemma derived the power to specifically do that...

I hope they are aware of standard City of Angels with Nic Cage rules, you choose to be mortal and something horrible happens almost immediately. I was half expecting Sersi to vindictively shank her after the transformation and tell her that's what it's like to be mortal but, you know, that would be a different movie.

I thought the Madden heel reveal was totally solid though. Seemed to all add up to me. I like situations where there's a bit more depth to a bad guy than pure evil intentions and, from Madden's perspective, he was just going along with the program they were all expected to follow for thousands of years. That was their mission as horrific as it sounds. From his perspective, Hayek is the one that has betrayed them. Obviously I rooted for the pro-Earth Eternals, but Icarus being the way he was seemed to add up.

Of course, having him kill Hayek in an irredeemably messed up way certainly made it quite clear that he was the bad guy. Can't find much ambiguity there.

Yeah, that was another issue I had. Sprite just literally tried to kill Sersi because she was jealous....? They were living together, and there was nothing in the movie that would make you think that she was in love with Icarus except for Kingo saying it.
And if only Ajak can heal, how does Sersi survive and continue on as if she didn't just get stabbed?

I'm totally with you on wanting bad guys to have depth. I always want that. And I think that Deviant that was becoming intelligentt would've been the way to go with that. So I was very confused why they decided to just kill him and end that story with nothing else said about it. It would have made more sense for them to actually join forces to stop the celestial from being born.

The problem that I had with Madden's heel turn is that we don't know enough about these characters' personal motivations and thoughts, or about the celestials for that heel turn to make sense.
In the movie, from the start, Icarus' character has been defined by being in love with Sersi, and being the strongest of the group. He has no personality or story other than that. There is some mention of his devotion to the mission, but not enough to explain the heel turn in any kind of satisfying way.
They try to portray Sersi as being the eternal that really loves and cares about humanity, but they all pretty much seemed to care about humanity as much as she did for the most part. Phastos has a lover and an adopted child---he's living with his human family. Sprite wanted to be human. Druig went against the whole group and the Celstials to try and save humans from each other. etc.
If Icarus had been like "I'm just here for the mission. I don't care about humans. I only serve so that I can return back to Olympia some day", then that would give us some reason to help explain what he did.
Or, if he actually wanted to be the Eternal Prime, and was angry with Ajak and Sersi that he wasn't the chosen one..that would've made the heel turn makes sense. But we really didn't get anything to explain his motivations--and that was the same for all of the eternals for the most part. I understand what you're saying about Hayek/Ajak being the one that is really betraying the mission, but i mean that there is nothing shown between theh characters that makes you think that he would care enough about this to kill a leader that he loves, betray his team/family, and abandon his own wife.
 
so for the second end credits scene the mystery voice talking to Kit Harrington is Mahershela Ali , he is set to play Blade

@ufcfan4

wow. Very cool.

im so unfamiliar with the source material and Kit’s Marvel hero character that I had absolutely no idea what was going on in either of those credits scenes. Seriously, there were a couple of people sitting in the theater who were absolutely losing it with the Harry Styles cameo- I was like, “brother of Thanos? What does that even mean?” And why is this Danny Devito in Hercules-looking dude hype man getting a big reaction?

What am I missing? Lol. But I’ve never been a big reader of the comics. My awareness of marvel properties comes primarily from the cartoons like Spidey, X-Men that I watched in my youth and now the MCU itself.

I just felt very out of touch because I heard a lot of hype about the credit scenes and their magnitude but I had no context for it.
 
wow. Very cool.

im so unfamiliar with the source material and Kit’s Marvel hero character that I had absolutely no idea what was going on in either of those credits scenes. Seriously, there were a couple of people sitting in the theater who were absolutely losing it with the Harry Styles cameo- I was like, “brother of Thanos? What does that even mean?” And why is this Danny Devito in Hercules-looking dude hype man getting a big reaction?

What am I missing? Lol. But I’ve never been a big reader of the comics. My awareness of marvel properties comes primarily from the cartoons like Spidey, X-Men that I watched in my youth and now the MCU itself.

I just felt very out of touch because I heard a lot of hype about the credit scenes and their magnitude but I had no context for it.

Kits' Character is playing the Black Knight , which has an interesting history and has a recent good run in Marvel now augmenting different storyline but is an obscure but powerful character, if they are using Blade alongside him hopefully they bring in Elsa Bloodstone and even Dracula , so it will give the MCU you a connection to Horror/Fantasy side of Marvel.
I am indifferent to Harry Styles as a performer, but took note that he has improving acting chops he could be our generation's David Bowie but less talented and flamboyant. The Character is Starfox is a Big Deal as is pip the Troll, for Starfox he is an immensely powerful Eternal , hopefully this opens up the return of Thanos because they will have to explain the lore , in the MCU they call Thanos the Mad Titan and they have now acknowledged Starfox as his brother who is an eternal , but in the Comic Books Thanos is a Deviant and in the MCU Thanos is as big as the Deviants presented so it will be interesting how they explained his origin, Thanos was Dusted and can just as easily be undusted .
 
I thought it was a pretty good movie, wasn't bored like several times watching Black Widow and the beginning of Shang Chi
 
Still haven't watched it yet. I'll ask the kids if they want to go today after we do chores around the house. If they don't want to watch it today, I'll wait until it's on Disney plus.

I have read reviews and seen spoiler videos on YouTube. If it's true that the whole lot of Eternals are just robots/synthoids, then I really hope WallE makes his MCU debut soon. It's the Marvel/Pixar crossover I've been waiting for.
 
I saw it. It was cool. Not greatness, but not as terrible as critics and movie makers say either.

It didnt "feel" like a Marvel film and there were somethings in the story that could have been done better, and certaim elements that should have been left out or trimmed. Im not an expert on the Eternals comics story or history, but a familiar face of Marvel being imvolved would have been cool.

All in all id say 7/10, would watch again but on home release.
 
Kits' Character is playing the Black Knight , which has an interesting history and has a recent good run in Marvel now augmenting different storyline but is an obscure but powerful character, if they are using Blade alongside him hopefully they bring in Elsa Bloodstone and even Dracula , so it will give the MCU you a connection to Horror/Fantasy side of Marvel.
I am indifferent to Harry Styles as a performer, but took note that he has improving acting chops he could be our generation's David Bowie but less talented and flamboyant. The Character is Starfox is a Big Deal as is pip the Troll, for Starfox he is an immensely powerful Eternal , hopefully this opens up the return of Thanos because they will have to explain the lore , in the MCU they call Thanos the Mad Titan and they have now acknowledged Starfox as his brother who is an eternal , but in the Comic Books Thanos is a Deviant and in the MCU Thanos is as big as the Deviants presented so it will be interesting how they explained his origin, Thanos was Dusted and can just as easily be undusted .

Thanks very much for the backstory. So

Black Knight is going to factor into that new Ali Blade movie, probably in a big way?
 
Thanks very much for the backstory. So

Black Knight is going to factor into that new Ali Blade movie, probably in a big way?

It seems that way , as that character would be able to explain some of his backstory this set of MCU movies will have an interesting connectivity.
 
I saw it. It was cool. Not greatness, but not as terrible as critics and movie makers say either.

It didnt "feel" like a Marvel film and there were somethings in the story that could have been done better, and certaim elements that should have been left out or trimmed. Im not an expert on the Eternals comics story or history, but a familiar face of Marvel being imvolved would have been cool.

All in all id say 7/10, would watch again but on home release.

I feel the negative buzz/reviews tempered my expectations quite a bit and that might have been a good thing because I ended up being pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it. Yeah, not a great MCU film but it was entertaining and I thought it moved quite briskly for a 2.5 hour movie.

I'm actually a bit bummed it has the distinction of being the worst-reviewed MCU film (not that critics are the be all/end all). I liked it a measure better than Iron Man 2 and Iron Man 3 and The Incredible Hulk and The Dark World as well.
 
Update: November 7, 2021

ETERNALS Opens to $71 Million in the U.S. and $161.7 Million Globally; Receives Lowest CinemaScore ("B") of Any MCU Film

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Chloe Zhao's Eternals battled its way to a $71 million debut from 4,090 theaters in North America — the low end of expectations — but fared better overseas for a worldwide start of $161.7 million, the second-biggest global opening of the pandemic era.

Eternals‘ domestic start is among the lowest of any of the 26 titles in the Marvel Cinematic Universe — the last film to open to less was Ant-Man in 2015 ($57.2 million) — and lower than the two other Marvel/Disney movies released during the COVID-19 pandemic, Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings and Black Widow.

Word-of-mouth was hampered by the lowest Rotten Tomatoes Score and U.S. audience CinemaScore of any title in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

The good news for Marvel Studios and Disney: plenty of loyal fans still came out and Eternals was able to make it past the $70 million mark (some analysts had it launching to $67 million).

And numbers were robust internationally, where the superhero offering opened to a better-than-expected $90.7 million from 46 material markets and excluding China and Russia, where a COVID surge has prompted another round of cinema closures.

Heading into the weekend, Disney and Marvel Studios were hopeful that Eternals would hit $75 million in North America.

At the end of the summer, Shang-Chi opened to a dazzling $94.7 million domestically over the four-day Labor Day weekend, including $75.4 million for the three days. Black Widow opened to $80.4 million in late spring even though it was also available in the home via Disney+ Premier Access.

Eternals received a B CinemaScore. The previous lowest was the first Thor (B+), while the rest have earned a variation of an A CinemaScore. Similar to the CinemaScore grade, Eternals presently has the lowest Rotten Tomatoes score — 49 percent — of any MCU offering.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/eternals-box-office-opening-battles-1235043852/
 
Saw it. It was okay, worthwhile for a Marvel fans interested in seeing the Celestials which looked great.

Film went in and out of what it was trying to be. At times a dramatic epic spanning thousands of years and at times a fun superhero story. Zhao didn’t navigate it properly so it fell short on both sides of the coin. Pacing suffered because of this.

Zhao also failed to utilize the large cast and flushing out their stories appropriately. Kit Harrington didn’t have much to do and maybe didn’t need to be in this. The movie could have been 30 minutes less, dropped a few storylines, and been much tighter.

6.5/10
I agree with your score. Maybe I'm just getting burned out on super hero movies.

The Celestials were protrayed well though they but in the original Kirby run, all the Eternals could fly and the Celestials had unique appearances. All these ones looked the same with different colors. Ikaris was way op.
 
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