Social Erika Kirk

[SmilinDesperado]

It’s just a bit weird that she stayed in the spotlight the entire time immediately following the shooting.

She allowed the Republican Party to utilize her for political purposes, then seemingly used that to bolster her own notoriety and promote Turning Point.

In a sense it’s smart, because she still has to make money and I’m sure she wants to champion her late husband’s cause, but it also comes off as a bit insensitive that politics and money are such major priorities for someone that is probably already well off and could have had someone else run the company for a bit.

If she took 6 months to a year off and spent all her time with her kids, then came back and did all of this, it would feel much less questionable.

I think she doesn't have the talent or skill to be some sort of public speaker/leader of a movement, and I think her time would be better spent being a mother to her young children , BUT, I don't find her speaking out as odd as people are making it out to be.
She's ultra religious, young, and she probably feels a lot of pressure to meet the moment so to speak. She had the POTUS and people from all over talking about her husband and his organization so I could understand that she wouldn't want that to die.
I could see a spouse wanting to carry on the work of their deceased spouse in some form or fashion.
This woman surely doesn't need money, so I don't think that's a real motivation here. And "politics" is life. When your religion and other core beliefs are part of your politics then it's hard to separate those things out.

 

[IanEdwards]

Is it too soon to say wood? I mean in a romantic kind of way, not a rough and tumble in a closet and then put a money shot on her neck.

what, Erika Kirk? 7/10 would bang. the leather trousers also suggest hidden sexual depths beneath the tradwife facade, albeit that may be wishful thinking.

and then put a money shot on her neck.

a money shot that miraculously didn't exit?

 

[curryjunkie]

I think she doesn't have the talent or skill to be some sort of public speaker/leader of a movement, and I think her time would be better spent being a mother to her young children , BUT, I don't find her speaking out as odd as people are making it out to be.
She's ultra religious, young, and she probably feels a lot of pressure to meet the moment so to speak. She had the POTUS and people from all over talking about her husband and his organization so I could understand that she wouldn't want that to die.
I could see a spouse wanting to carry on the work of their deceased spouse in some form or fashion.
This woman surely doesn't need money, so I don't think that's a real motivation here. And "politics" is life. When your religion and other core beliefs are part of your politics then it's hard to separate those things out.

i agree on her motivation,unsure how real her religious faith is, and also that she hasnt got the skills to pull it off, i disagree with her politics, and dont think she will have a huge impact in the way she would like, all the infighting between right wingers will claim a few casualties when trump screws everything up for the republicans, and i hope turning point will fade in relevance.

 

[IanEdwards]

i agree on her motivation,unsure how real her religious faith is, and also that she hasnt got the skills to pull it off,

for what its worth, she has been involved in religious-adjunct charities for a loooooong time, like even before college (apparently). I make no particular comment as to how real her faith is or isn't on the basis of that, other than to say, for it to be some kind of grift it would mean she had a very precocious grifting instinct indeed, or like inherited said grift from parental influence. I mean, I don't think that is likely a grift. FWIW

 

[Crazy Source]

for what its worth, she has been involved in religious-adjunct charities for a loooooong time, like even before college (apparently). I make no particular comment as to how real her faith is or isn't on the basis of that, other than to say, for it to be some kind of grift it would mean she had a very precocious grifting instinct indeed, or like inherited said grift from parental influence. I mean, I don't think that is likely a grift. FWIW

Religion is a grift. Her and Charlie were two peas in a grifting pod.

 

[IanEdwards]

and dont think she will have a huge impact in the way she would like, all the infighting between right wingers will claim a few casualties

the problem she will realise is that CK/Turning Point in general were pushing an ideology that was veering towards misogyny or at the very least appealed to misogynists, its tough for any woman to get parachuted into the head of an org which pushed the line that women shouldn't have a career/ should be subservient/ etc. There's just a structural paradox in there thats too big a chasm to cross, the more extreme people TP appealed to were moving more towards the 'groyper' mentality anyway, having a woman at the head of TP would only accelerate that process.

 

[IanEdwards]

Religion is a grift. Her and Charlie were two peas in a grifting pod.

Not so. Look I'm not religious but to say that it is nothing but a grift is silly IMO. FWIW my parents are both very religious, so if you want to call them grifters or even victims of a grift, we will have issues. If you want to call the charity/etc work that they and many other religious people do nothing but a grift, thats on you, I mean you're wrong and its far more nuanced than that but whatever.

Like no, I don't think god exists, but in the context of the homeless people their church will feed this xmas and the hospital patients visited and the food bank contributed to I don't really care if god exists or not, if you want to dismiss the real world positives on the basis that the sky daddy they do it on behalf of doesn't really exist, thats a baby/bathwater situation IMO.

 

[Crazy Source]

Not so. Look I'm not religious but to say that it is nothing but a grift is silly IMO. FWIW my parents are both very religious, so if you want to call them grifters or even victims of a grift, we will have issues. If you want to call the charity/etc work that they and many other religious people do nothing but a grift, thats on you, I mean you're wrong and its far more nuanced than that but whatever.

Like no, I don't think god exists, but in the context of the homeless people their church will feed this xmas and the hospital patients visited and the food bank contributed to I don't really care if god exists or not, if you want to dismiss the real world positives on the basis that the sky daddy they do it on behalf of doesn't really exist, thats a baby/bathwater situation IMO.

I didn't say it's nothing but a grift. But when you get into high profile stuff there is lots of money to be made.

 

[johnsmithjohnson]

Its pretty strange to have all this hatred for a woman who has done nothing to you other than have her husband murdered. Something is wrong with a lot of you.

No they have good reason. Kirk was just terrible human being and she's trying to hide that. You just want everyone ignore the shit he said.

I'm surrounded by black people
They aren't trying to hunt me
10 dollars does not get trump into heaven.
I'm not Christian but I find that scam evil.
The Epstein victims weren't lying.

Those are just some things kirk said or did towards the end of his life.
Let me guess. It's only serious when you want.
Kirk was a racist con artist pretending to be Christian and she's furthering that myth.

 

[IanEdwards]

I didn't say it's nothing but a grift. But when you get into high profile stuff there is lots of money to be made.

High profile stuff quite possibly

But IMO the majority of religious people are just everyday people with a slightly above average desire to 'do the right thing'

EG I work with peoples taxes. The charitable giving of religious people is demonstrably higher than that of non religious people, and my sample size is hundreds and hundreds of clients, and no that isn't 'just to get tax breaks' (the tax money saved is in inverse proportion to the gift IE they get far less tax relief than the amount given). I did a lady the other day she earns 46000 PA from her pensions and gives 10k of that to charities, she's extreme but not unusual

Away from the high profile stuff which is the tip of a very big iceberg it's indisputable that religious people taken all in all do a lot of good for society. Seeing the main Gurdwara in Delhi prepare food for tens of thousands of people per day is areal trip

 

[Crazy Source]

High profile stuff quite possibly

But IMO the majority of religious people are just everyday people with a slightly above average desire to 'do the right thing'

EG I work with peoples taxes. The charitable giving of religious people is demonstrably higher than that of non religious people, and my sample size is hundreds and hundreds of clients, and no that isn't 'just to get tax breaks' (the tax money saved is in inverse proportion to the gift IE they get far less tax relief than the amount given). I did a lady the other day she earns 46000 PA from her pensions and gives 10k of that to charities, she's extreme but not unusual

Away from the high profile stuff which is the tip of a very big iceberg it's indisputable that religious people taken all in all do a lot of good for society. Seeing the main Gurdwara in Delhi prepare food for tens of thousands of people per day is areal trip

Right on. I was raised southern Baptist and do not have good memories from that time. I was also in the heart of Jim and Tammy Faye Baker's grifting paradise. I am admittedly very biased. Erika gives me those same grifter vibes.

 

[IanEdwards]

Right on. I was raised southern Baptist and do not have good memories from that time. I was also in the heart of Jim and Tammy Faye Baker's grifting paradise. I am admittedly very biased. Erika gives me those same grifter vibes.

I think it's different in the US where there are large areas where Christianity is the default and there is an expectation of it.

In the UK and likely Europe as a whole, is isn't the default or some kind of social expectation or pressure-- quite the opposite, if you are Christian in the UK you are an oddity, so I feel there is less likelihood of people doing so without real conviction

Also the UK never monetised Christianity like you guys do, those mega churches are just totally alien to our culture and mentality

 

[Crazy Source]

I think it's different in the US where there are large areas where Christianity is the default and there is an expectation of it.

In the UK and likely Europe as a whole, is isn't the default or some kind of social expectation or pressure-- quite the opposite, if you are Christian in the UK you are an oddity, so I feel there is less likelihood of people doing so without real conviction

Also the UK never monetised Christianity like you guys do, those mega churches are just totally alien to our culture and mentality

I assumed that Christianity would be the default in the UK. Interesting. Our interactions with Christianity and "Christian" people are very different. Thanks for the insight.

 

[Phisher]

It's greatly amusing that they're leaning in this hard on Erika Kirk as central figure of TPUSA moving forward.

The sympathy for Charlie ended as soon as she started doing her press tour.

 

[nhbbear]

what, Erika Kirk? 7/10 would bang. the leather trousers also suggest hidden sexual depths beneath the tradwife facade, albeit that may be wishful thinking.

and then put a money shot on her neck.

a money shot that miraculously didn't exit?

Well, someone caught the neck shot reference. Lol.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Religion is a grift. Her and Charlie were two peas in a grifting pod.

I think Charlie's religiosity was genuine.

He was a political grifter because he turned that religious fervor into viewpoints that perfectly aligned with GOP talking points. Like, yes, I believe that Jesus is our lord and savior... therefore DEI is anti-white discrimination that's destroying the country and whatever the fuck.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

Not so. Look I'm not religious but to say that it is nothing but a grift is silly IMO. FWIW my parents are both very religious, so if you want to call them grifters or even victims of a grift, we will have issues. If you want to call the charity/etc work that they and many other religious people do nothing but a grift, thats on you, I mean you're wrong and its far more nuanced than that but whatever.

Like no, I don't think god exists, but in the context of the homeless people their church will feed this xmas and the hospital patients visited and the food bank contributed to I don't really care if god exists or not, if you want to dismiss the real world positives on the basis that the sky daddy they do it on behalf of doesn't really exist, thats a baby/bathwater situation IMO.

Yeah, it's pretty sad that religious people have become almost completely subsumed into the right in the US. If you're religious, you HAVE to buy into the authoritarian, intolerant, fundamentalist parts of Christianity.

There are some progressive/merciful/generous Christians but they're not organized at all.

 

[Azure]

TPUSA will become irrelevant without Charlie Kirk

 

[Crazy Source]

I think Charlie's religiosity was genuine.

He was a political grifter because he turned that religious fervor into viewpoints that perfectly aligned with GOP talking points. Like, yes, I believe that Jesus is our lord and savior... therefore DEI is anti-white discrimination that's destroying the country and whatever the fuck.

I don't see how he could genuinely study and try to live by the teachings of Christ and do what he did. I call that disingenuous.

 

[Crazy Source]

TPUSA will become irrelevant without Charlie Kirk

One can only hope.