Economy EPA cut regulations BIGLY

[Croaker]

Says the guy who claims he doesn't like the plan when he's pushed on the details, only to revert back to sucking trumps dick the moment he becomes aware he's defied daddy.

What? Are you retarded?

Oh, wait, yes, you are. My bad.

You genuinely cant understand nuances. That's okay bud. I hear there are more pokemon coming out soon. Get hyped!

 

[Darkballs]

What? Are you retarded?

Oh, wait, yes, you are. My bad.

You genuinely cant understand nuances. That's okay bud. I hear there are more pokemon coming out soon. Get hyped!

You haven't provided any nuances kid. You just ignore all the bad things about this shitty decision because you can't bring yourself to criticize donny.

But the floor is yours: What nuances exist that make you think this is a smart idea? Now's your chance to either shine, or puss out again. Lets see what happens.......

 

[Croaker]

You haven't provided any nuances kid. You just ignore all the bad things about this shitty decision because you can't bring yourself to criticize donny.

But the floor is yours: What nuances exist that make you think this is a smart idea? Now's your chance to either shine, or puss out again. Lets see what happens.......

You just took a left turn asking a retarded question then doubled down and assumed my position. I didn't bring up Trump I was simply discussing the issues with going full EV and abandoning the oil/gas market.

You're a fucking moron.

 

[heloder]

Trump: Does something which will inevitably lead to increased cancer deaths.

MAGA retards:

Another example of Trump curing cancer

 

[Darkballs]

You just took a left turn asking a retarded question then doubled down and assumed my position.

You claim that those of us who think this is a shitty idea, don't understand nuance.

I'm asking for a single example of what nuance we're missing. Not sure why this is so hard for you.

I didn't bring up Trump I was simply discussing the issues with going full EV and abandoning the oil/gas market.

So if we don't tear up the EPA then we've abandoned the oil/gas market? Was that the case before today? Because I'm pretty sure we still had an oil/gas market while requiring companies to not pollute waterways.

 

[cincymma79]

Less than 14% of deportation during Trump's term were people with actual criminal records of any kind, let alone the kind of crimes you're talking about.

The overwhelming majority of deportations have been people with immigration process violations and visa overstays.

14% had a VIOLENT criminal history. violent. 70% still had fraud and the like. derail blocked. that’s two on the first page. impressive.

 

[chardog]

Nope.

Shifting towards environmentally friendly policy is why BYD is kicking our @sses in global vehicle sales. That and the fact that we put all of our EV trust in a ketamine-riddled child predator whose vehicles have record recalls and his companies suck so bad their profits are dependent upon Government welfare, and who cheats at video games to look cool to nerds.

And why all your President can say about it is a warning to Canada that China will shut down their hockey. Lol

BYD is not even in the conversation, and funny thing that you’re talking about low carbon emissions, vehicles, and completely dismissing Tesla.

Tesla was not the one that abandoned EV‘s, that’s all they sell. Legacy Auto abandoned EV‘s and yet you’re ragging on about Tesla. You’re very hard to please like women.

 

[chardog]

Yes

BYD is utilizing other peoples technology which is why its cheaper to produce. They're kicking out asses because they have less in R&D and we don't even know if they're even making a profit.

Not only that, the energy necessary to fulfill moving everyone to electric would absolutely trash the oil/gas markets.

They’re not really kicking butt right now and hurting



They are inexpensive vehicles and have no competition in America

 

[panamaican]

The Trump Administration is pushing nuclear energy at levels we have not seen in decades. You want fewer emissions, that's how it happens. Your claim that they have no policy is wrong in a huge way.

Oh...because you can't push nuclear and not cut other regulations? Short term economic policy applies to what they're doing with this regulatory changes. The changes are about bolstering auto manufacturing and sales <--- short term economic policy. Fossil fuels are bad for the environment <-- long term environment policy.

So, short term economic policy with no consideration for long term environmental policy. Pushing nuclear in a nebulous way while boosting fossil fuels in the immediate term. No real long term environment benefits vs. immediate short term detriments. Also notice how much of his speech is about prices of vehicles, that's economic policy.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

Nothing you can dispute.

Concession Accepted... no go back to the Epstein thread you muppett.

is english not your first language or were you dropped on your head as a baby?

 

[ThaiSexPills]

Just bought a new diesel and am about to rip the emissions garbage off. Woo!

Trump may be an Epstein island boy but removing diesel truck emissions crap and cafe standards is a win for the people

 

[Satsui Ryu]

I wouldn't mind the start/stop thing going away. It just seems awful for cars and could cause more harm than good.

 

[pinger]

At the

Jacked & Tanned

Sounds like a drink you'd order.

At the Blue Oyster

 

[Frank_Drebin]

Shifting towards environmentally friendly policy is why BYD is kicking our @sses in global vehicle sales.

the environmentally friendly policy of building 2 new coal plants per week and overfishing in 3rd world countries. that's gotta be it. and it's definitely not because they're paying their workers slave labor wages to build those cars as well getting massive subsidies from their commie fascist government who basically owns those companies in the first place which makes it really easy to make cheap shit and dump them in the west with very little competition because everyone else is playing by the book.

why are these guys allowed to stay in the WTO again?

"China operates the world's largest distant-water fishing fleet, causing widespread environmental, economic, and human rights abuses by fishing illegally in the exclusive economic zones (EEZs) of developing nations, particularly in West Africa, South America, and the Indian Ocean. These actions—including rampant bottom trawling, shark finning, and, at times, labor abuse—deplete local food sources, destroy marine habitats, and undercut local fishermen."

 

[TeTe]

And how will coal companies dumping pollutants in our rivers change that?

The good news is, in the US at least, coal companies are already becoming a thing of the past.

 

[Poon Goon]

Just bought a new diesel and am about to rip the emissions garbage off. Woo!

Trump may be an Epstein island boy but removing diesel truck emissions crap and cafe standards is a win for the people

Probably not necessary to bring up the Epstein stuff lol. "The guy is covering for child rape, but at least my truck will be cooler", what the fuck? Just say the truck part.

 

[GrantB13]

It's so odd that people like this are actively ANTI-environmentalist. Not just "I don't think we impact much" but the outright mission of making it worse.

 

[Stoic1]

It's so odd that people like this are actively ANTI-environmentalist. Not just "I don't think we impact much" but the outright mission of making it worse.

I think people are starting to wake up that many of the "environmentalists" are misguided and often not looking at the larger spectrum of unintended consequences. Instead they are virtue signaling.

There is an untold number of examples, but I gave one in this thread about early starter wear and the larger carbon footprint from do-gooders who cant see the forest through the trees.

I'm reminded of this scene from landman where Billy Bob talk about the unseen negative impact of wind generators.



Now don't get me wrong. I live a pretty light carbon footprint lifestyle. In fact I'd go so far as to call myself an environmentalist. Moreso than at least 95% of the people on this board. Im all for clean energy, cleaning the oceans, recycling. I live that lifestyle.

But people thinking that these environmentally friendly policies have no goddamn idea the impact they have. "I drive an EV!", well fuckin-A, Linda that's awesome. Here's a picture of child slave labor in the lithium mines needed to fund that yoga class talking point:

The cleanest fucking energy we can make is nuclear and we have made exactly 2 plants in the last 30 years.

So the agency actively hampering our best efforts is now being championed by misguided virtue signaling hypocrits? Excuse me.

 

[Madmick]

Good to see Trump cares more about the bank accounts of the executives running big oil and big auto than he does the environment.

Forward thinking stuff, really.

 

[Blastbeat]

Trump signed the Great Outdoors act into law when he took office. He didn't create it, but still, he signed it in his first term.
Since then he has barely done anything to help environmental efforts and has been pretty much making things worse.
Does Trump not give a shit about our national parks? About the nature in this country? It doesn't seem like he does. All while trying to make park admissions free on his birthday or some other crap.
What a load of garbage. Fuck anyone who doesn't wish for America's parks and natural surroundings to stay beautiful