Environment and the right

[AnGrYcRoW]

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it? The last thread we conversed in, you tried to pass off lies as facts. Even posted a link(which proved yourself wrong).

Just because you can't understand it doesn't make it a lie .

 

[MichiganMMA1978]

Just because you can't understand it doesn't make it a lie .

Uhhh.... There was no other way to to interpret it fool! It stated there were trace amounts in unfiltered water, but not enough to sustain a human. Case closed.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

I always hear this, but then no solutions from you guys

Limit air travel to one round trip air fare per family per year. For everyone. No exceptions.

If that means all air lines go out of business, that's fine with me. Fuck those greedy assholes.

Seriously cut down international trade. Countries need to learn to be self sufficient.

End all refugee programs. Simply running away is not a solution. People need to put in the hard work and fix their fucked up countries.

Those are my solutions.

 

[Joe_Armstrong]

That's the only thing I don't agree with as far as moderate right wing views.
Their opinion on global warming ( oh and cannabis)

 

[no fat chicks]

Limit air travel to one round trip air fare per family per year. For everyone. No exceptions.

If that means all air lines go out of business, that's fine with me. Fuck those greedy assholes.

Seriously cut down international trade. Countries need to learn to be self sufficient.

End all refugee programs. Simply running away is not a solution. People need to put in the hard work and fix their fucked up countries.

Those are my solutions.

What about moving away from fossil fuels?
Less plastic

I do like the self sufficient mantra although global commerce should be possible with electric container ships

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

What about moving away from fossil fuels?
Less plastic

I do like the self sufficient mantra although global commerce should be possible with electric container ships

Limiting air travel the way I outlined will do away with a massive chunk of fossil fuel use.

I will always choose limits that will force the super rich to change their ridiculous lifestyles rather than making poor and working class people's lives unlivable.

There'a a reason the global elites want a carbon tax. They can afford to pay an extra 20 cents a litre and have no loss of quality of life.

But it will absolutely affect the poor, working, and middle classes. That's why I will always fight against these taxes. They are designed to put the burden on us, not the people who actually use too much carbon.

 

[trac209]

Limiting air travel the way I outlined will do away with a massive chunk of fossil fuel use.

I will always choose limits that will force the super rich to change their ridiculous lifestyles rather than making poor and working class people's lives unlivable.

There'a a reason the global elites want a carbon tax. They can afford to pay an extra 20 cents a litre and have no loss of quality of life.

But it will absolutely affect the poor, working, and middle classes. That's why I will always fight against these taxes. They are designed to put the burden on us, not the people who actually use too much carbon.

Whole heartily agree with this but as you stated that’s the whole agenda of the climate change movement money.

 

[nostradumbass]

Limit air travel to one round trip air fare per family per year. For everyone. No exceptions.

If that means all air lines go out of business, that's fine with me. Fuck those greedy assholes.

Seriously cut down international trade. Countries need to learn to be self sufficient.

End all refugee programs. Simply running away is not a solution. People need to put in the hard work and fix their fucked up countries.

Those are my solutions.

Um, it wouldn't just mean all airlines go out of business. It would mean pretty much every company goes out of business while prices on everything increases.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

Um, it wouldn't just mean all airlines go out of business. It would mean pretty much every company goes out of business while prices on everything increases.

Right because no companies existed before air travel.

 

[nostradumbass]

Right because no companies existed before air travel.

Not very many of the existing businesses did.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

Not very many of the existing businesses did.

I'm going to need some details here. What specificslly are you talking about? What businesses can't exist without air travel?

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

Limiting air travel the way I outlined will do away with a massive chunk of fossil fuel use.

I will always choose limits that will force the super rich to change their ridiculous lifestyles rather than making poor and working class people's lives unlivable.

There'a a reason the global elites want a carbon tax. They can afford to pay an extra 20 cents a litre and have no loss of quality of life.

But it will absolutely affect the poor, working, and middle classes. That's why I will always fight against these taxes. They are designed to put the burden on us, not the people who actually use too much carbon.

Air Travel is expanding and set to increase in the next few decades but it looks like it's only currently responsible for 2% of all human caused CO2 emissions and 12% of all related to transport.

https://www.atag.org/facts-figures.html

Reducing air travel will just force people to use other means and this will provide no relief to our carbon footprint.

 

[nostradumbass]

I'm going to need some details here. What specificslly are you talking about? What businesses can't exist without air travel?

Well, right away, any kind of consulting, the entire tourism industry, any nationwide business, all of professional sports, college sports, colleges in general would have 0 students from out the country and very few out of state students, any business that requires expedited shipping, the entire states of Hawaii and Alaska, hiring from out state for any job is gone, doing any business outside the country is obviously out the question.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

Well, right away, any kind of consulting,

Video conferencing

the entire tourism industry

How many families take more than one vacation a year?

any nationwide business

You'll have to clarify there. Most domestic shipping can be done by rail so if you mean something else, explain.

all of professional sports, college sports,

Huh? Loads of college teams take the bus. For pro sports, sure, scheduling will have to be adjusted but you cam absolutely run a pro sports team without air travel.

colleges in general would have 0 students from out the country and very few out of state students

So?

any business that requires expedited shipping

People will have to adjust their expectations.

the entire states of Hawaii and Alaska,

Boats.

hiring from out state for any job is gone

Good. That empowers the workers.

doing any business outside the country is obviously out the question

Again. Video conferencing. But yes, part of my ideal world includes less international business.

So basically you don't think it's possible to make any changes whatsoever to lifestyle or convenience to reduce carbon emissions?

Of course there adjustments will have to be made. They should be. Our current system is unsustainable and is doing two things I am 100% against: 1. making other countries richer at our expense, and 2. Consolidating wealth at the top 1%.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Lol @ some of these posts

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

Air Travel is expanding and set to increase in the next few decades but it looks like it's only currently responsible for 2% of all human caused CO2 emissions and 12% of all related to transport.

https://www.atag.org/facts-figures.html

Reducing air travel will just force people to use other means and this will provide no relief to our carbon footprint.

Proportionally it is terrible. You're burning jet fuel right into the upper atmosphere.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

Lol @ some of these posts

Contribute or shut up, dumb shit.

 

[tramendous]

Theres a very easy way to make the right care about the environment. The left just has to pretend theyre against it and outraged when the right takes up the cause.

 

[nostradumbass]

Video conferencing



How many families take more than one vacation a year?



You'll have to clarify there. Most domestic shipping can be done by rail so if you mean something else, explain.



Huh? Loads of college teams take the bus. For pro sports, sure, scheduling will have to be adjusted but you cam absolutely run a pro sports team without air travel.



So?



People will have to adjust their expectations.



Boats.



Good. That empowers the workers.



Again. Video conferencing. But yes, part of my ideal world includes less international business.

So basically you don't think it's possible to make any changes whatsoever to lifestyle or convenience to reduce carbon emissions?

Of course there adjustments will have to be made. They should be. Our current system is unsustainable and is doing two things I am 100% against: 1. making other countries richer at our expense, and 2. Consolidating wealth at the top 1%.

This compounds both of those problems. Don't like your job? Where the fuck you gonna go? While every other country continues to grow and get richer, our economy starts over from 1910 levels. 5,000 miles round trip by boat sounds totally reasonable. See you in a month.

Congrats, you just turned the US into Cuba.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

This compounds both of those problems. Don't like your job? Where the fuck you gonna go? While every other country continues to grow and get richer, our economy starts over from 1910 levels. 5,000 miles round trip by boat sounds totally reasonable. See you in a month.

Congrats, you just turned the US into Cuba.

One country limiting air travel won't make a difference. Of course this would have to be a global initiative.

Overall though, I agree. Virtue signalling online about the horrors of climate change is just that: Virtue signalling. No one is actually going to follow through on any meaningful change.

But let's not just add ANOTHER fucking tax and not actually do anything because that will just make life harder for the 99%, have no effect on the 1% who are the actual problem and won't fix anthing.