Environment and the right

[Voodoo_Child906]

No. They’re useful idiots easily cowed by cry-bullies and bunk science.

LOL These companies have funded their own research, in fact Exxon's work in the 70's, 80's and 90's provided the framework for a lot of the current climate models today. So basically... what in the fuck are you talking about?

https://corporate.exxonmobil.com/Energy-and-environment/Environmental-protection/Climate-change

"ExxonMobil scientists have been involved in the forefront of climate research for four decades, understanding and working with the world’s leading experts on climate. Our research in climate science has resulted in nearly 150 publicly available papers, including more than 50 peer-reviewed publications, and nearly 300 patents for cutting-edge technological advances in emissions reductions and other related applications."

We believe that climate change risks warrant action and it’s going to take all of us — business, governments and consumers — to make meaningful progress.

 

[PEB]

Ozzy man talks about Australian wide fires in his own way and he someone who really does not want to talk about the environment but what is happening around him he cannot avoid it.

 

[no fat chicks]

At least if they acknowledged that climate change is being accelerated by man it would lend a bit of credibility to them

 

[Fluffernutter]

If the EPA teamed up with the DOD, then the right would be all for it.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

So Exxon, Chevron, Conoco Philips, BP, Shell, Petronas, Saudi Aramco, Total Oil, Repsol, PetroBras, Suncor and the other top oil companies in the world are part of a war on capitalism? All of these companies accept the scientific consensus and have statements affirming their agreement on their website.

"Chevron is taking prudent cost-effective actions to address climate change and is committed to working with policymakers to design balanced and transparent greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions reductions policies that address environmental goals and ensure consumers have access to affordable, reliable and ever cleaner-energy"

https://www.shell.com/sustainability/environment/climate-change/adapting-to-climate-change.html

"As the world experiences more extreme weather conditions linked to climate change – such as flooding and water shortages caused by droughts – governments, businesses and local communities need to think seriously about their adaptation strategies.

Adaptation reduces the vulnerability of assets, infrastructure, environmental systems and communities to extreme variability in weather due to climate change. Within our operations we take steps at our facilities around the world so that we are more resilient to climate change."

http://www.conocophillips.com/sustainability/managing-climate-related-risks/

"As we work to safely find and deliver energy to the world, addressing climate-related issues is a high priority. We recognize that human activity, including the burning of fossil fuels, is contributing to increased concentrations of greenhouse gases (GHGs) in the atmosphere that can lead to adverse changes in global climate. While uncertainties remain, we continue to manage GHG emissions in our operations and to integrate climate change-related activities and goals into our business planning."

@Starman care to address this ?

 

[Starman]

@Starman care to address this ?

No, because there is no point. Your answer to my next question will prove why. Or rather, your refusal to provide an answer. What would it take to prove to you that man-made climate change isn’t real?

 

[no fat chicks]

No, because there is no point. Your answer to my next question will prove why. Or rather, your refusal to provide an answer. What would it take to prove to you that man-made climate change isn’t real?

Evidence is the acceptable answer for most of the people here. . .
So ya got any?

 

[Starman]

Evidence is the acceptable answer for most of the people here. . .
So ya got any?

Sure. I’ll prove man-made climate change isn’t real as soon as you prove Santa Claus isn’t real. Think real hard about that, dummy.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

No, because there is no point. Your answer to my next question will prove why. Or rather, your refusal to provide an answer. What would it take to prove to you that man-made climate change isn’t real?

Okay let's try this , just answer this one question from @Voodoo_Child906

So Exxon, Chevron, Conoco Philips, BP, Shell, Petronas, Saudi Aramco, Total Oil, Repsol, PetroBras, Suncor and the other top oil companies in the world are part of a war on capitalism?

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

 

[no fat chicks]

Sure. I’ll prove man-made climate change isn’t real as soon as you prove Santa Claus isn’t real. Think real hard about that, dummy.

There is zero evidence that santa is real.

Okay go ahead your turn donkey.

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

No, because there is no point. Your answer to my next question will prove why. Or rather, your refusal to provide an answer. What would it take to prove to you that man-made climate change isn’t real?

I'll answer, science is falsifiable so in this case the theory of man-made climate change could be disproved a number of ways.

1) Show data that the planet isn't warming that would pass a peer review of the experts (Exxon included)
2) If you concede the planet is warming, show another source for the excess heat that once again would pass a peer review of the experts (Exxon included)

Now what would it take for you to believe that man-mad climate change is real, and please be specific like I was.

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

Okay let's try this , just answer this one question from @Voodoo_Child906

So Exxon, Chevron, Conoco Philips, BP, Shell, Petronas, Saudi Aramco, Total Oil, Repsol, PetroBras, Suncor and the other top oil companies in the world are part of a war on capitalism?

I'd like to add here @Starman that if a per barrel carbon charge is levied on these energy giant's reserves they are looking at TRILLIONS of USD they would have to pay. Why would they agree with the climate change data when they literally have trillions of reasons not to.

 

[Starman]

Okay let's try this , just answer this one question from @Voodoo_Child906

So Exxon, Chevron, Conoco Philips, BP, Shell, Petronas, Saudi Aramco, Total Oil, Repsol, PetroBras, Suncor and the other top oil companies in the world are part of a war on capitalism?

Re-read my last response to you.

 

[Starman]

There is zero evidence that santa is real.

Okay go ahead your turn donkey.

Are you kidding? I’ve seen Santa on TV a million times. I received a letter from him along with a signed picture. I met him at the mall. Every Christmas morning I find gifts from him under my tree. The milk and cookies I leave for him on the table are gone. They even track his movements on NORAD!

Its clear you’re just a Santa denier.

 

[Starman]

I'll answer, science is falsifiable so in this case the theory of man-made climate change could be disproved a number of ways.

1) Show data that the planet isn't warming that would pass a peer review of the experts (Exxon included)
2) If you concede the planet is warming, show another source for the excess heat that once again would pass a peer review of the experts (Exxon included)

Now what would it take for you to believe that man-mad climate change is real, and please be specific like I was.

When coastal cities are underwater and the polar icecaps have melted.

 

[no fat chicks]

When coastal cities are underwater and the polar icecaps have melted.

So when it's too late to act.
Great strategy.
Is that when you're gonna start wearing a seatbelt? After your car crashes and you become a vegetable?

 

[Starman]

So when it's too late to act.
Great strategy.
Is that when you're gonna start wearing a seatbelt? After your car crashes and you become a vegetable?

No, not when it's too late, because it's never going to happen. The experts have been predicting this "in the next 10 years" for the last 40 years.

That's of course after you morons were predicting the next ice age.

But thank you for no longer trying to deny the existence of Santa Claus. There's more evidence for him than global cooling / global warming / climate change / climate catastrophe / whatever name you idiots have for it this week.

 

[Voodoo_Child906]

No, not when it's too late, because it's never going to happen. The experts have been predicting this "in the next 10 years" for the last 40 years.

That's of course after you morons were predicting the next ice age.

But thank you for no longer trying to deny the existence of Santa Claus. There's more evidence for him than global cooling / global warming / climate change / climate catastrophe / whatever name you idiots have for it this week.

The energy giants with Trillions on the line disagree with your last sentence. What does that tell you when the group with the most to lose still support the science and in the case of Exxon actually developed the science?

 

[Starman]

The energy giants with Trillions on the line disagree with your last sentence. What does that tell you when the group with the most to lose still support the science and in the case of Exxon actually developed the science?

What it tells me is that they are no different than any other major corporation in the Western World. They pay lip service to the radical fringe Left because they fear the bad publicity if they don't, and/or their board members are just as deluded as you.

What it tells me about you is that you believe in narrative, not truth. Your failure to answer my question is evidence enough of that.