Well I didn't really know ENTROPY until we got into an argument in that one thread (I felt like we bonded at any rate). Then I remember Carnal calling us all s because we were attacking ENTROPY who evidently moves more weight than most of us combined. Then I looked at his totals from the Sherdog's strongest man and was like (to quote carped33z): ... ... So anyway it got me thinking. I remember Carnal's post on the raw bench to be a real help for me in the gym. I mean both my bench and my squat are both comparatively weak, but I feel like I know exactly what I need to do to bring up my squat. I'm still mostly in the dark on my bench. So I figured that having two huge lifters thoughts on the raw bench would be better than just one's, and, seeing as we have ENTROPY here in addition to Carnal, I decided I would bite the bullet, forego all sense of dignity, and ask ENTROPY to kindly grace us with his own take on bench mechanics, assistance exercises, and the mystical process of actually getting a passable bench press. So here goes: ENTROPY TELL US PLZ! THX.