Social Elon taking control of Treasury, locks federal workers out of their computers.

Witchhunt said:
JMO, but people paying more attention and gaining understanding of “how the government works” has led to this.
The president is the sole authority over classification and every security clearance that exists is at the presidents pleasure.
What is being done here is in full daylight, as opposed to the subversive “baffle ‘em with bullshit” tactics that have been used for decades to create these programs that are ripe for kickbacks and laundering.
Lol at the pants shitting over the coding team having access to personal information while arguing for the status quo, where untold thousands of faceless bureaucrats have that same access..
The legalities of this will be resolved by the judicial, but the peek inside the current functioning of the federal gubment is a win for the country.
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At least those bureaucrats went through the process of obtaining security clearance.

But, hey, I feel much better knowing some kids got their clearance personally from the guy who parked a bunch of top secret documents in the shitter at his resort, then proceeded to give the keys to the property to some Chinese spies. What could go wrong?
 
Islam Imamate said:
Nope, quite the opposite. Most people are utterly clueless as to how government works. I'd bet around half can't name all the branches of government.
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It only takes a few since most don’t even vote.
There are many that think they know, and think that it’s A-OK.
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sickc0d3r said:
At least those bureaucrats went through the process of obtaining security clearance.

But, hey, I feel much better knowing some kids got their clearance personally from the guy who parked a bunch of top secret documents in the shitter at his resort, then proceeded to give the keys to the property to some Chinese spies. What could go wrong?
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You don’t actually know any of that.
 
BFoe said:
Let’s see the evidence. Should be easy enough to provide, they need to provide it, Americans should be demanding to see it.

Let me guess: next they’ll be purging Treasury workers like crazy and telling us they had to do it because the Treasury is infested with _________ (fill in the blank: “radical left thugs,” “Deep State,” “immigrants/foreigners,” “communists/marxists/socialists,” etc., etc.).
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How'd you miss trannies on this list? That would definitely be the goto choice.
 
Apparently one or two members of Doge are not US citizens but H1-B visas and Trump supposedly requested that they not be hired. So what is VP Trump do he caves to President Musk and he still hires them. There apparently more than the 6 original members too. Imagine that most classified access being handed over to non US citizens. I remember one time Elon saying he could not hire Russian immigrants to work at SpaceX because they do a lot of military work that required Government clearance yet here we are now.
 
BForrester said:
And you don't know that none of that happened. What we DO know is that Musk and his people did NOT go through security clearances or background checks.
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CNN says he's got top security clearance.

Musk has a top secret security clearance, an official familiar with the matter tells CNN. Musk, who is the world’s richest man and became an ardent supporter of Trump’s during the campaign, has an office on the White House campus. Within weeks of Trump taking office, Musk has shown he has a broad mandate to carry out his government efficiency initiative known as DOGE.

 
Elon being so ALL IN, on destroying democracy and trying to lock in right wing power for decades to come is both a huge gamble and bet that Dem's will not get power again, but if they do, they will be feckless in holding him to any account in the same way they and Garland proved they could not hold Trump to account.

And i do not think Elon is wrong to think that. Even if the Dems took over, i doubt very much they would end going after him or retaliating against his business interests.

That is the main difference between Dems and Magats as even a Bill Barr, being in Garland's position and being opposed to Trump would have easily saw him tried and jailed before the 2020 election. But Dems have to own how feckless they are, in that regard.
 
Witchhunt said:
You don’t actually know any of that.
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Well, I do build gateways and backends for bank transaction processing for a living, so I know what kind of security is required around access to PCI data.
I have no reason to doubt that the federal reserve takes the security of that kind of data seriously, and every reason to doubt that the billionaire boys club cares about that shit at all. But, hey, if you're comfortable with it then good for you I guess.
 
sickc0d3r said:
Well, I do build gateways and backends for bank transaction processing for a living, so I know what kind of security is required around access to PCI data.
I have no reason to doubt that the federal reserve takes the security of that kind of data seriously, and every reason to doubt that the billionaire boys club cares about that shit at all. But, hey, if you're comfortable with it then good for you I guess.
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Yeah, SpaceX employees don't need clearances, I'm sure..
 
BForrester said:
And you don't know that none of that happened. What we DO know is that Musk and his people did NOT go through security clearances or background checks.
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They work for SpaceX.. I'm sure the coders that work in the aerospace industry don't need any clearances. The DOD thumbs their nose at those kind of things, right?
 
sickc0d3r said:
lol. Some 20 year olds who interned for SpaceX and other Musk companies, taking a stroll with admin privileges through the federal reserve payment systems, looking for wasteful spending… no worries!
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Yeah, they could just have their way with all those secrets and no one would be the wiser, right?
 
Witchhunt said:
Yeah, they could just have their way with all those secrets and no one would be the wiser, right?
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Who the fuck knows?
In any case, with all that college intern and possibly multiple whole months of real job experience, handing them control of the fed’s systems definitely seems like the responsible thing to do.
Trust in the foreign tech billionaire, bankrupt casino owner, and their ragtag crew of tweenage hackers when it comes to all of our money and data, I always say.
 
sickc0d3r said:
Who the fuck knows?
In any case, with all that college intern and possibly multiple whole months of real job experience, handing them control of the fed’s systems definitely seems like the responsible thing to do.
Trust in the foreign tech billionaire, bankrupt casino owner, and their ragtag crew of tweenage hackers when it comes to all of our money and data, I always say.
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At least we know who they are. Why are you so quick to disparage them when they are operating in the open, under the eye of an entire country, with DOD level security clearance yet so quick to trust an army of unnamed bureaucrat's completely leveraged by the middle manager that hired them who is leveraged by..... who is leveraged by..... who is leveraged.... and on and on and on.
The Federal government is WAY to big, ill managed and rife with corruption.
I'm not having a team v team discussion here, the D's and R's are equally responsible for the steaming pile of shit that is our Government.
We should all be happy that these rocks are being turned over..
 
Witchhunt said:
At least we know who they are. Why are you so quick to disparage them when they are operating in the open, under the eye of an entire country, with DOD level security clearance yet so quick to trust an army of unnamed bureaucrat's completely leveraged by the middle manager that hired them who is leveraged by..... who is leveraged by..... who is leveraged.... and on and on and on.
The Federal government is WAY to big, ill managed and rife with corruption.
I'm not having a team v team discussion here, the D's and R's are equally responsible for the steaming pile of shit that is our Government.
We should all be happy that these rocks are being turned over..
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Under the eye of the entire country? I'm all for auditing the fed, but who's providing oversight? Who's giving us information about what they find or whatever? Elon Musk, after running it by Trump for approval? That's not exactly an impartial third party. And what changes are they making, to which software and systems? Who's QA'ing and testing their work? Anyone with any kind of actual knowledge about the systems they're working on has apparently been locked out.

The non-partisan view should be that this is an insanely risky approach.
 
PEB said:
Apparently one or two members of Doge are not US citizens but H1-B visas and Trump supposedly requested that they not be hired. So what is VP Trump do he caves to President Musk and he still hires them. There apparently more than the 6 original members too. Imagine that most classified access being handed over to non US citizens. I remember one time Elon saying he could not hire Russian immigrants to work at SpaceX because they do a lot of military work that required Government clearance yet here we are now.
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- Why you dont trust us?
 
sickc0d3r said:
lol. Some 20 year olds who interned for SpaceX and other Musk companies, taking a stroll with admin privileges through the federal reserve payment systems, looking for wasteful spending… no worries!
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- A horny 20 years old is getting the numbers of all the widows at his neighborhood!
 
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