International Elon Musk Sieg Heiling during his speech

KAZSoliloquy said:
that is not the definition proposed in the genocide convention, which is the first and only regulatory system for genocide.
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No, it's the definition for the English language use of the word.
 
Bob Gray said:
No, it's the definition for the English language use of the word.
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the word was invented by raphael lemkin who made the genocide convention. i don't really care what anyone else has to say about it. yes, in most contexts it involves mass murder, but that's not the only criteria.

you are also saying, by definition, that any jew who survived holocaust was not a victim of genocide. asinine.
 
KAZSoliloquy said:
oh, cry me a river. you're right, rounding up undesirables in concentration camps is nothing like the holocaust. fuck outta here.
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Lol I love how everything is fair game now besides the slightest mention of the holocaust. Deport every single brown by any means possible. But don't you fucking dare minimize, even mention, my greatest friends past.
 
KAZSoliloquy said:
the word was invented by raphael lemkin who made the genocide convention. i don't really care what anyone else has to say about it. yes, in most contexts it involves mass murder, but that's not the only criteria.

you are also saying, by definition, that any jew who survived holocaust was not a victim of genocide. asinine.
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And he died 60 years ago and believed the word meant exactly what the dictionary said. Whats your point?

What is your second point even trying to show? Jews would still be victims because the genoicide affected them even if it didn't kill them. You're sperging now.

Your argument is literally that the dictionary is wrong about a definition, rather than you being wrong about it.
 
Bob Gray said:
And he died 60 years ago and believed the word meant exactly what the dictionary said. Whats your point?
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what he meant was exactly what was outlined in the convention he wrote. the thing you are now saying it doesn't mean lol
Bob Gray said:
What is your second point even trying to show? Jews would still be victims because the genoicide affected them even if it didn't kill them. You're sperging now.
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no, that's precisely what i'm saying.
Bob Gray said:
Your argument is literally that the dictionary is wrong about a definition, rather than you being wrong about it.
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my argument is that the dictionary doesn't define a word better than the guy who invented the word lol
 
KAZSoliloquy said:
what he meant was exactly what was outlined in the convention he wrote. the thing you are now saying it doesn't mean lol

no, that's precisely what i'm saying.

my argument is that the dictionary doesn't define a word better than the guy who invented the word lol
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Just say you think the dictionary definition of the word is wrong. That's what you think. Own it.
 
Bob Gray said:
Just say you think the dictionary definition of the word is wrong. That's what you think. Own it.
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oh make no mistake, i already did. i would rather abide by the definition of the guy who invented the word.
 
KAZSoliloquy said:
oh, cry me a river. you're right, rounding up undesirables in concentration camps is nothing like the holocaust. fuck outta here.
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Unless they are gassing them and then running them through an oven until they are ash or shooting them and dumping them in shallow graves then your point is just a dishonest smear.
 
ocfightfan said:
Unless they are gassing them and then running them through an oven until they are ash or shooting them and dumping them in shallow graves then your point is just a dishonest smear.
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so only until that starts happening can we be worried about the potential of that happening someday? we can't follow the steps of how that society came to be and the things that led to it?
 
So was he really doing a salute to Hitler or is he just autistic?
 
Was that a Hitler salute or an autistic guy being stupid? That's a false dichotomy. It was both. That's a guy unintentionally doing a Hitler salute because he's watched it so many times and appreciated it. He is doing the Hitler salute because he's feeling amped up and so that's what came natural to him and he unintentionally did it in front of the crowd.

It's like when that right-wing host said that everybody had an infatuation with Nazi uniforms when they were a kid.... Because they looked so cool...

Yeah... no they didn't.

And it was absolutely a Hitler salute.
 
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