International Elon Musk Sieg Heiling during his speech

[KAZSoliloquy]

With how the word has been thrown around for the last five or ten years, yeah "fascism" is vague...

You wanna outline some of the Nazi related things they are set to roll out, specifically?

rounding up undesirables and putting them in concentration camps via ICE.

 

[Snubnoze707]

rounding up undesirables and putting them in concentration camps via ICE.

That seems like a pretty extravagant way of describing the enforcement of basic immigration laws.

10 or so years ago Democrats were making the same arguments against immigration, now in 2025 you somehow have to be a secret Nazi in order to have those opinions. Go figure.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

1 - Any normal person wouldn't care to lose support from actual Nazis, but point taken here. I think that is what you are emphasizing lol

2 - This is true, and we are seeing this even in this thread. Even if you support him (or Trump, etc.) I don't know why you can't still be critical of them when they fuck up. It's called being a normal adult and not a fanboy.

I think he has a benefit from acknowledging it - but he may think he has more to gain by ignoring and downplaying his naysayers. I think if he apologized and clarified what he was doing, most rational people would accept that.. but he must feel as if he just plays them off as the crazies, he comes out looking better. Gaslighting.

I disagree with that - I think he looks like an arrogant dumbfuck coming out of this. I still don't think he was doing it on purpose, but I do think he is too high on himself to acknowledge he fucked up.

I'm right there with you man, on all points.

I think it's only gonna to get crazier from here. From both him and the C-in-C because refusal to take accountability is a long standing trend. And they know that they're effectively untouchable because of how radically faithful their following is. But hey, American people spoke and this is where we are. Far be it from me to speak ill of my boss and his associates.

I'm just gonna do my job, get by day to day, and watch the shit show continue to unfold.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

That seems like a pretty extravagant way of describing the enforcement of basic immigration laws.

the attempted mass deportation of 12 million people is not "basic immigration laws"

10 or so years ago Democrats were making the same arguments against immigration, now in 2025 you somehow have to be a secret Nazi in order to have those opinions. Go figure.

democrats are scum too lmao

 

[subtlySteve]

2 - This is true, and we are seeing this even in this thread. Even if you support him (or Trump, etc.) I don't know why you can't still be critical of them when they fuck up. It's called being a normal adult and not a fanboy.

It's pure man worship... they idolize a 53-year-old man who behaves like a 13-year-old simply because he's been anointed by Donald Trump, is friends with Joe Rogan, and has a ridiculous net worth.

They lack the intellectual capacity to criticize someone because they see it as a political loyalty test, when in reality, criticizing even those you admire for one reason or another is both healthy and rational.

The keyword is "rational"... and they’re nowhere near it.

I say this with no sarcasm at all… it’s genuinely sad.

 

[Snubnoze707]

the attempted mass deportation of 12 million people is not "basic immigration laws"

There wouldn't be this situation where that many illegal immigrants exist had the basic laws been followed in the first place, but you know that level of deportation is unrealistic and is not going to happen. They will deport a backlog of people already set to be deported, and illegals that commit crimes. They're not going to go door to door rounding up Mexican grandmothers.

To try and equate this to rounding up Jews to throw in death camps is idiotic.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Loses what? He won you idiot!

He lost the prior election dumb fk.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- I thought people got a shot of his arm extended and posted out of context. But them i saw the video and started to think: What the hell he was thinking?

 

[Bwagster]

He lost the prior election dumb fk.

Who the President?

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- I thought people got a shot of his arm extended and posted out of context. But them i saw the video and started to think: What the hell he was thinking?

 

[LeonardoBjj]

He lost the prior election dumb fk.

- It's was a strategical retreat!

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Their not going to go door to door rounding up Mexican grandmothers.

are you kidding? yes, they absolutely are going to do that. they have always done that. that's the vast majority of the people getting deported. most deportees aren't criminals lmao

To try and equate this to rounding up Jews to throw in death camps is idiotic.

this is beat-by-beat identical to what germany did with the jews before the final solution. the only difference is the final solution itself.

 

[Snubnoze707]

are you kidding? yes, they absolutely are going to do that. they have always done that. that's the vast majority of the people getting deported. most deportees aren't criminals lmao

Well, they actually are criminals. They entered the country by committing a crime. But again, you propose all 12 mill are... not getting deported, put in concentration camps I guess? Neither of those things will happen.

this is beat-by-beat identical to what germany did with the jews before the final solution. the only difference is the final solution itself.

The Nazi's didn't deport illegal immigrants back to their country of origin, they rounded up citizens and shipped them to camps where they exterminated them. They also invaded other countries and did the same there. Beat-by-beat, eh?

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Who the President?

Elon

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

They're not going to go door to door rounding up Mexican grandmothers.

I mean...that is exactly what they do already. "Wellness checks" and then deportation. Happened to the families of a few of my students when I was still teaching. Crazy shit.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Well, they actually are criminals. They entered the country by committing a crime.

im aware illegal immigration is a crime. you drew the line at "they're deporting criminals, not going around rounding up grandmas" and now you wanna move the goalposts and go "actually those grandmas ARE criminals"

you're technically factually correct regarding US law but you made a morality argument under the guise of a legal argument by saying "they're going after criminals not ______"

But again, you propose all 12 mill are... not getting deported, put in concentration camps I guess? Neither of those things will happen.

do you think there's a 12-million-person plane waiting for all its passengers to board? they get CONCENTRATED into small CAMPS while they await deportation, which often takes years.

The Nazi's didn't deport illegal immigrants back to their country of origin, they rounded up citizens and shipped them to camps where they exterminated them.

later on, yes. they originally tried to deport them. much like israel is doing with gazans right now, actually.

They also invaded other countries and did the same there. Beat-by-beat, eh?

brother, trump is currently laying the groundwork for invading mexico, panama, greenland, and canada. are you serious? he just designated cartel members as terrorists which allows the US to essentially attack mexico without a declaration of war. do you have any idea what has happened over the last few weeks?

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

I mean...that is exactly what they do already. "Wellness checks" and then deportation. Happened to the families of a few of my students when I was still teaching. Crazy shit.

genuinely orwellian dystopian shit. and it seems the vast majority of americans, at least i think snub is american, don't realize that's what's happening.

this also isn't the first time. the US did "operation wetback" under eisenhower.

 

[Snubnoze707]

I mean...that is exactly what they do already. "Wellness checks" and then deportation. Happened to the families of a few of my students when I was still teaching. Crazy shit.

So nothing's changed then, I guess we don't need Nazi explanations.

My argument is that they aren't going to round up all 12 mill in this fashion.

 

[Snubnoze707]

genuinely orwellian dystopian shit. and it seems the vast majority of americans, at least i think snub is american, don't realize that's what's happening.

this also isn't the first time. the US did "operation wetback" under eisenhower.

But the reason we are even engaging each other is you used deportation as an example of this incoming admins Nazism. Now you're telling me this has already been going on?

Can you give me another example of what Nazi-like agendas they have in order since this example didn't pan out?

 

[Noveltymortar]

My cat lifted her paw in a suspicious way just now. She must be a Nazi just like Herr Musk. Also a neighbor of mine waved at me with a straightened arm. Time to cancel all these vermin.