Elite level mma is boring

Tito Tapped said:
But more importantly, wrestlers will be the ones to truly benifit. No more free wall climbing to get back up. No more turtling because you can't fight off your back.

So congrats, in your effort to make MMA exciting you've offered more tools for wrestlers and turned full guard into a joke 👍
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Why do you assume this is just a tool to combat wrestlers? It is a tool for everyone. Making wrestlers more dangerous and allowing them to cause more damage is a good thing. How is that not more exciting?
 
Marko Polo said:
Well at least you can frequent Sherdog for your fill of intelligent and unbiased fight discussion! Youve had a rough time man. Some guy with ALS got a neuralink installed recently, that’s something I thought was years away. Medical science is advancing at a very quick rate now and something will come along that sooner than later 👊
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Yea, i mean it become mind numbing living off the internet for almost a decade now. I miss so much. I used to hike alot, do some bjj at a gym, ride atv's up mountains early in the morning. Felt so good having the cool morning dew mist past my face. Better than a coffee.

It was years of a hell trying one auto immuno surpressant to the next. Humira, enbrel, remacaid, cosentyx, xeljanz... and don't even get me started on health insurance making the whole thing that much worse. Sadly none of those helped, and they force u to do a 6-9 month trial on them before u can try something else even if the doc knows it aint helpin after a few months. All the while i was on over 60mg of prednisone a day cause my body was destroying it self. and making me prediabetic.. I was in so much pain all the time, i'd rather be in a permenent leg lock from palharas. And the depression from not even being able to wipe ur own ass, pooping urself in bed cause u can't move, not being able to even turn a door knob.. having ur friends come by to empty ur 5 gallon home depot bucket full of piss next to ur bed.

Luckily they finally found something that helps called taltz. It's not great, but i can wipe my own butt again and don't even need that tool that holds the toilet paper for u cause i had no range of motion in my wrists before. I'm grateful i have the internet. i can't imagine how much worse it would've been without it.. But at the same time.. humans are pretty terrible to each other online, given the opportunity it seems. I'm no better it feels, even knowing this and trying to not contribute to the overwhelming amount of toxicity.

Anyways, thanks again for asking and the positive attitude. Hopefully they make an affordable ironman suit one day so i could do things again. or i mean i'd settle for robocop too.
 
Thy said:
Yea, i mean it become mind numbing living off the internet for almost a decade now. I miss so much. I used to hike alot, do some bjj at a gym, ride atv's up mountains early in the morning. Felt so good having the cool morning dew mist past my face. Better than a coffee.

It was years of a hell trying one auto immuno surpressant to the next. Humira, enbrel, remacaid, cosentyx, xeljanz... and don't even get me started on health insurance making the whole thing that much worse. Sadly none of those helped, and they force u to do a 6-9 month trial on them before u can try something else even if the doc knows it aint helpin after a few months. All the while i was on over 60mg of prednisone a day cause my body was destroying it self. and making me prediabetic.. I was in so much pain all the time, i'd rather be in a permenent leg lock from palharas. And the depression from not even being able to wipe ur own ass, pooping urself in bed cause u can't move, not being able to even turn a door knob.. having ur friends come by to empty ur 5 gallon home depot bucket full of piss next to ur bed.

Luckily they finally found something that helps called taltz. It's not great, but i can wipe my own butt again and don't even need that tool that holds the toilet paper for u cause i had no range of motion in my wrists before. I'm grateful i have the internet. i can't imagine how much worse it would've been without it.. But at the same time.. humans are pretty terrible to each other online, given the opportunity it seems. I'm no better it feels, even knowing this and trying to not contribute to the overwhelming amount of toxicity.

Anyways, thanks again for asking and the positive attitude. Hopefully they make an affordable ironman suit one day so i could do things again. or i mean i'd settle for robocop too.
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That sounds like hell. I can tell though that you have a strong mentality and you will be OK!

No need to thank me brother, you were the one who bravely opened up
 
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The answer to this was already figured out in PRIDE. At the time, the UFC was not the organization with the best fighters in the world. And PRIDE solved these problems with:

1) Basically banning stalling with clutching/holding (i.e. stalling the fight in the corner of the ring, wall & stall in the UFC)
2) Quicker standups without dominant position (need mount/back control, or heavy damage, or you get stood up fast)
3) Yellow cards for timidity (you must not avoid the fight or you lose points)

Trust me, when a fighter is up 3 rounds to 0 and gets a yellow card, it would change the fight. It forces that fighter to be more active and take more risks. This should happen every time a fighter starts avoiding the fight and looking to cruise to a decision.
 
Marko Polo said:
A fight isn’t about taking your opponent down and submitting them because you’re physically stronger or even getting a flash KO, it’s supposed to be a back and forth argument, a conversation where you convince the other guy you’re better, we don’t really see that in MMA.
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That sounds like some Hollywood stuff, or Power Slap. I doubt any warrior on a battlefield is interested in a back and forth.

MMA is the closest thing we have to real fights (on a professional level), if that doesn't entertain you there are plenty of other combat sports.
 
World eater said:
Why do you assume this is just a tool to combat wrestlers? It is a tool for everyone. Making wrestlers more dangerous and allowing them to cause more damage is a good thing. How is that not more exciting?
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I don't think you read closely enough, I explain how wrestlers benifit and why it won't have the intended effects all the anti-wrestlers think it will.
 
gosuasus said:
Elite MMA is top 3 of every division at best.

Who is elite at

125? Nobody
135? Merab, Umar, maybe Sean or Yan
145? Volk, Max
155? Mak, Arman, Ilia is questionable
170? Shavkat alone
185? Borz alone
205? Ank alone, maybe Poatan
265? Tom alone
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illia is the best mma fighter alive today p4p

he's not "questionable"
 
GluttonforPunishment said:
Everyone is afraid to lose. Nobody leaves it out there. No more Chris Lebens or BJ Penn's. Everyone thinks they have to win, at any cost. Even the crowd booing you.
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Yeah that's one of things that was great about pride. The Japanese audiences valued the warrior Spirit over winning fights.

That's why they loved guys like Frye and Takayama, or Sakuraba, even though they lost plenty of fights.

Wish we could become a little more like the Japanese in that regard.
 
Tito Tapped said:
I don't think you read closely enough, I explain how wrestlers benifit and why it won't have the intended effects all the anti-wrestlers think it will.
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I did read closely enough. It is the hundredth time I’m reading this and someone always points out how knees benefit wrestlers more, just like you did here. But there is always the assumption people hate wrestlers. Knees tdo are just a tool. Yes, it is a tool for wrestlers and makes wrestlers more dangerous. It is also a tool against wrestlers. Bottom line is, any way knees are used, it makes a fight more exciting. Whether you prefer wrestlers or standup fighters, you should like the additional of knees tdo either way.
 
empsim said:
That sounds like some Hollywood stuff, or Power Slap. I doubt any warrior on a battlefield is interested in a back and forth.

MMA is the closest thing we have to real fights (on a professional level), if that doesn't entertain you there are plenty of other combat sports.
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Well it used to entertain me a few years ago? Poatan has been carrying MMA the last 5 years because he’s a massive throwback. No one wants the current mma landscape.
 
HHJ said:
Coulda fooled me!
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Fedorgasm said:
Yeah that's one of things that was great about pride. The Japanese audiences valued the warrior Spirit over winning fights.

That's why they loved guys like Frye and Takayama, or Sakuraba, even though they lost plenty of fights.

Wish we could become a little more like the Japanese in that regard.
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MMA in the states(UFC) has tried to equate the competitive business model as well as judging as boxing. Where a 1 in that loss column is nearly a death sentence in your career. MMA was supposed to be like a street fight against two people that have different styles. You're going to lose. This forum used to make fun of people incorrectly saying they "train UFC", but look what's happened. 12-6 elbows are allowed now. But look how they are still elbowing. The only person I've seen forcefully throwing those elbows was Jones vs Stipe. Elite fighters are terrified at losing. There's another thread that asked for knees to downed opponent(to the head). Soccer kicks. There is no justification to ban upkicks from someone on top of you trying to smash your face. It's watered down sport. Most of this forum loves GSP and Khabib. They fight their styles to avoid damage and I'll never consider them warriors.
 
U shuld giv elite level slaps a try fam mi tink yuh like it mandem nuh play it safe

Here mi yute Kine Eyez him have him muddah kine eyez an' faddah mean slap wid defense fi match 💪🏿

Him a tek a clean slap from a islander dem bwoi got cheat codes took it like a champ

 
Ian Garry was beating up Carlos on the feet with combos, he just looked bad in the last round.
If we had the exact same fight, but the fighter people liked more going in won, people would be calling it a war.
 
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