Edgar and Romero on potential GOAT runs to the title; it's clear UFC doesn't want them as champs

[sonhow]

He's 11-3 in the UFC. He was schooled on the ground by ADCC Conor and beat mostly B-level and C-level fighters after that. He's a bum who was overrated by Conor fans here

Lol aside from Chad Mendes, Holloways streak is better than Edgars.

 

[SamboRedBelt]

You are fucking retarded. 6 out of 8 finishes, and 2 of the names on your list. Oliveira and Swanson. Stephens was also top ten ranked.

And others were B-level and C-level fighters

 

[toni357]

They screwed Edgar big time, but now it lies in his own hands to win the Interim title. Only good thing about it is that they cant deny him his shot anymore should he win. Same goes for Aldo.

Romero should get the next crack at the title. He won the title eliminator bout versus Jacare. He popped for the contaminated supplement after the bout, so it isnt even a no contest and he is cleared to fight in July or so already.
Jacare should have gotten the shot a while ago, but now that he lost to Romero he lost some leverage to lobby for the title shot. Just seems that hes not marketable enough and a winning streak was his only way to the title, unfortunately.
Belfort no way should fight for the title. The win over Henderson means nothing. He had 3 title shots in 2 divisions in the last 5 years and was finished in all of them, looking very bad in the most recent one against Weidman. But of course the biggest money fight in all of them would be Rockhold-Belfort. Together with a possible fight between Romero-Bisping because of the story they have.

 

[SamboRedBelt]

You are fucking retarded. 6 out of 8 finishes, and 2 of the names on your list. Oliveira and Swanson. Stephens was also top ten ranked.

Also if I remember correctly Oliveira fight was a freak injury and Cub Swanson was Frankie's leftover when he fought Max

 

[Benoitthegr8]

You are fucking retarded. 6 out of 8 finishes, and 2 of the names on your list. Oliveira and Swanson. Stephens was also top ten ranked.

Don't feed the Fedor troll...

 

[SamboRedBelt]

Lol aside from Chad Mendes, Holloways streak is better than Edgars.

He was embarrassed by McGregor on the ground, that's one of the most embarrassing ways to lose in the UFC. He's a prospect, he's not on Edgar's level.

Andre Fili, Will Chope, Clay Collard.. Who the fuck are those guys? There's also Poirier's leftover Akira Corassami. B-level and C-level fighters as I said.

How is that better than Faber and Penn, two legends of the game? And Edgar beat Oliveira and Cub before Holloway. The monumental KO of Mendes is better than Holloway's entire resume

 

[sonhow]

He was embarrassed by McGregor on the ground, that's one of the most embarrassing ways to lose in the UFC. He's a prospect, he's not on Edgar's level.

Andre Fili, Will Chope, Clay Collard.. Who the fuck are those guys? There's also Poirier's leftover Akira Corassami. B-level and C-level fighters as I said.

How is that better than Faber and Penn, two legends of the game? And Edgar beat Oliveira and Cub before Holloway

I'm sure you hear from Andre Fili in the future.
Just hard time rating the Penn win as a good one. Looked more like Penn was trolling with his stupid fighting stance than trying to compete with Frankie. I'd sayright now beating Stephens at fw matters more than beating Faber at fw.

 

[SamboRedBelt]

I'm sure you hear from Andre Fili in the future.
Just hard time rating the Penn win as a good one. Looked more like Penn was trolling with his stupid fighting stance than trying to compete with Frankie. I'd sayright now beating Stephens at fw matters more than beating Faber at fw.

Holloway is a novice who beat a lot of B-level and C-level fighters. It's absurd to compare him with someone like Frankie. He would never get past Chad Mendes or even Lamas. He's not top 5 in the division realistically speaking.

 

[sonhow]

Holloway is a novice who beat a lot of B-level and C-level fighters. It's absurd to compare him with someone like Frankie. He would never get past Chad Mendes or even Lamas. He's not top 5 in the division realistically speaking.

He's had had 14 ufc fights... The Conor fight happened three years ago.
But whatever he's fighting Lamas or Mendes next so we'll see if you are right.. He will be a favourite vs Lamas and small underdog vs Mendes.

 

[Jimmy jump]

He was embarrassed by McGregor on the ground, that's one of the most embarrassing ways to lose in the UFC. He's a prospect, he's not on Edgar's level.

Andre Fili, Will Chope, Clay Collard.. Who the fuck are those guys? There's also Poirier's leftover Akira Corassami. B-level and C-level fighters as I said.

How is that better than Faber and Penn, two legends of the game? And Edgar beat Oliveira and Cub before Holloway. The monumental KO of Mendes is better than Holloway's entire resume

He was embarrassed by McGregor on the ground, that's one of the most embarrassing ways to lose in the UFC. He's a prospect, he's not on Edgar's level.

Andre Fili, Will Chope, Clay Collard.. Who the fuck are those guys? There's also Poirier's leftover Akira Corassami. B-level and C-level fighters as I said.

How is that better than Faber and Penn, two legends of the game? And Edgar beat Oliveira and Cub before Holloway. The monumental KO of Mendes is better than Holloway's entire resume

Completely agree with this. The fighters that Holloway has beaten (Cub aside) are so far away from the level of the Top 5 its untrue. Plus Holloway getting dominated on the ground by Conor is still quite fresh.

 

[SamboRedBelt]

Completely agree with this. The fighters that Holloway has beaten (Cub aside) are so far away from the level of the Top 5 its untrue. Plus Holloway getting dominated on the ground by Conor is still quite fresh.

If Conor McGregor can take him down and dominate him on the ground like that imagine how easy it would be for Chad to lay and pray him at will. Even this physically and mentally broken version of Mendes would easily beat Max.

 

[HHJ]

I dunno why they wouldnt want Yoel as a champion,other than the no for gay jesus thing.

 

[CO68]

You really do like making shit threads, don't you? Edgar lost his belt, then got an immediate title shot, lost that, then got yet another title shot at a lower division. How in the fuck is the UFC not trying to give him title shots? He fought in 7 straight title fights not that long ago and has an interim title shot coming up. Dana White proclaimed him as the greatest fighter in the history of the universe when he was champ. His current streak is good, but not that good.

Oliveira had only won 2 of his previous 6 fights
Penn was waaay over the hill and should have stayed retired
Swanson was legit
I'm not that high on Faber and he's a 135er getting an undeserved title shot
Mendes is legit, though he only won 1 of his 3 previous fights (losses to Aldo and McG are understandable)

 

[El_Diazo]

Romero beat the crap out of Jacare, he shot him down with a vicious well placed spinning backfist and then ground and pounded him. All that while he was sick and on flu. And he was proven innocent, USADA basically admitted fault by reducing his sentence, the first fighter who got leniency by this corrupted organization.

I wouldn't be surprised if the UFC used its connections with the USADA to orchestrate all this and give more legitimacy to Weidman Rockhold rematch.

LOL if you believe Yoel's supplement story

 

[Takamine86]

Finally a thread I can agree with you on TS. Edgar and Romero definitely deserve titleshots.

 

[randomg1t]

Romero beat the crap out of Jacare, he shot him down with a vicious well placed spinning backfist and then ground and pounded him. All that while he was sick and on flu. And he was proven innocent, USADA basically admitted fault by reducing his sentence, the first fighter who got leniency by this corrupted organization.

I wouldn't be surprised if the UFC used its connections with the USADA to orchestrate all this and give more legitimacy to Weidman Rockhold rematch.

he dropped him in the first round, then lost the second and the third. at best, if you scored the first round 10-8, it was a draw. you're acting like he was beating him for 15 minutes.

the only reason he got a lowered suspension was because the banned substance was present in a supplement and wasn't listed as an ingredient. and i'm sure he totally had no idea he took it, just like everyone else that ever got busted. anderson just wanted his dick to stay hard, he had no clue it would give him an advantage during a fight, right?

He was busted for a diuretic, not roids

yeah, i don't think so.

USADA revealed that Romero tested positive for ibutamoren, a growth hormone release stimulator. An unopened version of the supplement was independently tested and the banned substance did indeed come up, even though it was not listed on the label.

 

[Area809]

Edgar should've had his title shot for sure, but if Conor wanted to fight him, they would've made the fight. You get the feeling that Conor calls his own shots and not the UFC. Everything from the initial title shot (which he didn't beat any legit title contender to earn it), to challenging for the 155 title and now the rematch with Nate, should tell you the UFC will do anything he asks. So he hasn't asked for the Edgar fight and that's probably why it hasn't happened. Mayyyyyyybe he's ducking him--just saying

As for one of my favorite fighters, Yoel Romeo, he did get in trouble for a little bit. Now that he was essentially absolved, hopefully he gets his shot after Weidman/Rockhold is sorted out.

 

[HIMBOB]

Romero beat the crap out of Jacare, he shot him down with a vicious well placed spinning backfist and then ground and pounded him. All that while he was sick and on flu. And he was proven innocent, USADA basically admitted fault by reducing his sentence, the first fighter who got leniency by this corrupted organization.

I wouldn't be surprised if the UFC used its connections with the USADA to orchestrate all this and give more legitimacy to Weidman Rockhold rematch.

Admitted fault =/= reduced sentence.

Even if he didn't mean to take them he was on them.

 

[Shaddows]

It's clear the UFC doesn't want them as champs and did everything possible to avoid them from title shots. They're on great streaks though and the UFC will soon have no choice but give them a more than deserved title shot.

Edgar is on a 5 win streak at 145: Charles Oliveira, BJ Penn, Cub Swanson, Urijah Fabes, Chad Mendes. Fighting Aldo next and if he wins then Conor for the belt. These are all top names and legends.

Romero is 7-0 in the UFC: Clifford "Big Cat" Starks, Ronny Markes, Derek Brunson, Brad Tavares, Tim Kennedy, Lyoto Machida, Jacare. A murderous row of opponents. It's hard to say who'll be next for him but I guess it will be either Bisping, Vitor or the loser of Weidman/Rockhold. Definitely some top name in the stacked MW division. Then he'll fight Weidman or Rockhold for the title.

If anyone of these two wins the belt, has there ever been a fighter in the UFC who had a harder road to the title?

I agree about Frankie. But Yoel????
Come on, dude, murderous row ?
The only names in Romero's list worthy of anything were Machida and Jacare. And let us not talk about how he beat some of his opponents (stoolgate, holding the cage, getting caught using some banned substance, etc).
The problem with Yoel is that there's always something wrong in his big wins. And IMHO this is why they do not like his run.

 

[MirRocksFedor]

Admitted fault =/= reduced sentence.

Even if he didn't mean to take them he was on them.

He took legal supplements that were tainted. In my eyes there should be no suspension at all. Hopefully he goes after the company and gets the money he lost from a missed title fight.