Eddie Hall vs Thor - March 19th

[Brandon Robinson]

So I'm a non-boxer because I mentioned a right hook in an example. I wont even mention the fact it was the only punch thrown by Eddie Hall so it kind of fit perfectly into my argument of "if Eddie thrown a right hook at a flat footed Tyson...."

Let's leave it at that shall we I don't want you to bring me to your level. Idiots always win due to experience.

Yes because overhands don't exist aye

Ur an absolute tool keep thinking some dudes that lift heavy things are the hardest punches ever

By that logic all boxers should just go for 1 rep maxes and strong men should be dominating combat Sports... Wonder why they don't

 

[MotorCityCobra]

Yes because overhands don't exist aye

Ur an absolute tool keep thinking some dudes that lift heavy things are the hardest punches ever

By that logic all boxers should just go for 1 rep maxes and strong men should be dominating combat Sports... Wonder why they don't

Because punching power isn't the be all end all?

You have to be crazy to think someone like eddie hall doesn't punch harder than mike tyson... of course he does, he just has no delivery system.

I'd assume 350 LBS strongman can generate more force than any 220 LBS boxer in sheer PSI force...doesn't mean much but definitely not a ridiculous take at all.

They don't just lift heavy weights, they are literally twice as strong as a very strong 230 LBS male.

 

[GeneTunney7]

Because punching power isn't the be all end all?

You have to be crazy to think someone like eddie hall doesn't punch harder than mike tyson... of course he does, he just has no delivery system.

I'd assume 350 LBS strongman can generate more force than any 220 LBS boxer in sheer PSI force...doesn't mean much but definitely not a ridiculous take at all.

They don't just lift heavy weights, they are literally twice as strong as a very strong 230 LBS male.

All good questions, and i would love to see a strong man vs a real boxer. Ngannou actually generate 10% more power than Eddie all. Force = mass x acceleration, so he likely has the strength and technique Eddie did not in the right areas and probably faster twitch and more speed (acceleration). There are some guys that are just born punchers, like how Fury is larger than Deontay but Deontay hits much harder.

Power seems to be something that you are born with or not and can improve, but you basically have it or you dont - just like some people can dunk and others will never will be able to do so. Also, keep in mind, lots of strong men have their weight in their guts and are fat af so they have mass to pull air planes.

 

[MotorCityCobra]

All good questions, and i would love to see a strong man vs a real boxer. Ngannou actually generate 10% more power than Eddie all. Force = mass x acceleration, so he likely has the strength and technique Eddie did not in the right areas and probably faster twitch and more speed (acceleration). There are some guys that are just born punchers, like how Fury is larger than Deontay but Deontay hits much harder.

Power seems to be something that you are born with or not and can improve, but you basically have it or you dont - just like some people can dunk and others will never will be able to do so. Also, keep in mind, lots of strong men have their weight in their guts and are fat af so they have mass to pull air planes.

Eddie Hall dropped a massive amount of strength and size to box from when he was in WSM and hit 10% weaker than the hardest punch that ever hit it.

It's probably similar to long drive is golf. The best functional drivers of the ball all hit around 290-300y carry. Some bomber pros hit it 320. There are people who can't play golf even at a collegiate level that hit it 400 yards but their skills don't carry over to golf.

I agree being able to generate it in the first place is the key factor, which is why alot of people just have no power no matter what they do.

 

[Brandon Robinson]

Because punching power isn't the be all end all?

You have to be crazy to think someone like eddie hall doesn't punch harder than mike tyson... of course he does, he just has no delivery system.

I'd assume 350 LBS strongman can generate more force than any 220 LBS boxer in sheer PSI force...doesn't mean much but definitely not a ridiculous take at all.

They don't just lift heavy weights, they are literally twice as strong as a very strong 230 LBS male.

You know there's more to punching power then just being a big dude right? Unless you think Tyson fury hits harder then foreman

 

[GeneTunney7]

Eddie Hall dropped a massive amount of strength and size to box from when he was in WSM and hit 10% weaker than the hardest punch that ever hit it.

It's probably similar to long drive is golf. The best functional drivers of the ball all hit around 290-300y carry. Some bomber pros hit it 320. There are people who can't play golf even at a collegiate level that hit it 400 yards but their skills don't carry over to golf.

I agree being able to generate it in the first place is the key factor, which is why alot of people just have no power no matter what they do.

I like the long drive analogy - I used the exact some one in this thread. I agree, the hardest puncher in the world likely some guy that cant box at all, but can generate a ton of horse power, force and has alot of fast twitch muscle fiber. Thor seems to have more slow twitch muscle and endurance than Eddie, but Hall is more explosive. Eddie's specialty was the dead lift, so not sure how that would translate to power but probably to some extent as it requires so many muscle groups.

 

[Kendodsworth]

Yes because overhands don't exist aye

Ur an absolute tool keep thinking some dudes that lift heavy things are the hardest punches ever

By that logic all boxers should just go for 1 rep maxes and strong men should be dominating combat Sports... Wonder why they don't

You know what I'm not even replying to you after this.
You think I'm not a boxer or never boxed because I mention a right hook because its apprently "the first punch a non boxer mentions and the least used" then you come at me with the fucking overhand right, Fuck off man...

In regards to me thinking heavy guys punch harder re-read my first reply to your bollocks.

Have a good week mate

 

[Sharkhunter]

Here is Eddie getting fked up by pro cruiserweight Viddal Riley. Who was also holding back some obviously. However, Eddie did tag and wobble him. Eddie is fast as fk. Like really fast in general. Not just for his size.

holding back some is an understatement

 

[dog y]

Prime Bean sleeps thor imo

Bean rocks but he's 5'10.
It's hard af to overcome ~10inches of height. Probably much more of reach too.
Then again Struve got KOed by big country and hunt. Ofc, Thor is much more mobile than Struve... Everyone is.
Ok, I got Bean as well.

 

[dog y]

I bet all the money I had on bet365 on Thor. Some 200 bucks.
Celebrity boxing is much easier to bet on than MMA IMO. Wish I'd gotten on the train earlier.
BTW, can we bet on Ford vs Iranian Hulk? Is that an exhibition or pro match?

 

[GeneTunney7]

I bet all the money I had on bet365 on Thor. Some 200 bucks.
Celebrity boxing is much easier to bet on than MMA IMO. Wish I'd gotten on the train earlier.
BTW, can we bet on Ford vs Iranian Hulk? Is that an exhibition or pro match?

I'm not sure if you can bet on the Hulk fight, and if you could the odds would be terrible as Hulk got exposed already. Martyn Ford is going to absolutely destroy him. It will be a miracle if it makes it out of one round.


LMAO, the poor guy's family already disowned him for getting embarrassed so terribly.

 

[dog y]

I was actually really impressed by Eddie here. I dont doubt that after seeing this he did beat some pros sparring. He is incredibly fast for size, very good slipping and head movement, reaction time, and Vidal is a legit beast. Here he seemed more relaxed too, where as vs Thor I bet he had a giant adrenalin dump. I used to play drums in a band, could play all day at practice, but at some big shows I would get an adrenalin dump and my arms felt like 100 pound weights. You dont really get a feel of someone's true potential on stage in front of thousands of people, but that is a skill one must master too.

I also heard from the Devon Larratt channel that Eddie's torn bicep was a real, real problem, and he had to change his style and only use one arm, keep it up to his head to remind himself not to throw it. If that is true and Eddie just does not want to come out with an excuse, Id love to see a rematch later on after Eddie was totally healed.

I'd love a rematch and would bet everything cent of my betting account on Thor again... But the odds wouldn't be good this time, I guess. Then again, Hall's injury might make em good.

 

[websurfer]

The Eddie Hall vs Hathor fight fight is back up on the Kenny KO YouTube channel. In case anyone missed it. For whatever reason it was taken down due to copyright, but it's back up.

 

[cabal]

Bean rocks but he's 5'10.
It's hard af to overcome ~10inches of height. Probably much more of reach too.
Then again Struve got KOed by big country and hunt. Ofc, Thor is much more mobile than Struve... Everyone is.
Ok, I got Bean as well.

An old version of Bean lost to M Silva with my surprise

 

[dog y]

An old version of Bean lost to M Silva with my surprise

Damn. Didn't know. Just watched.
He was maybe 35 then, not too old. Maybe too old for that fighting shape.

 

[GeneTunney7]

Eddie got the tattoo. Looks like the rematch is on!