Eddie Alvarez on MMA vs Boxing

[Mohawk Banditó]

MMA being "more like a fight" than boxing is like a cheese pizza bragging to Digornio that its "more like Italian Cuisine." Patting yourself on the back when you also don't quite fit the bill.

Street fights are not like any regulated sporting competition

 

[The Chosen]

Ive known a few boxers that would straight merk dudes in street fights, like with the quickness.

Ive seen mma dudes get fucked up in street fights too, so its not as plain as saying mma is better cause it has less rules. Its all about application, and every case is different.

All street fights are going to start with throwing punches so it makes sense

 

[Bruce Lee666]

MMA is also a controlled environment. If bite, eye gouge and balls squeezing were allowed, the whole sport would be a lot different than it is now . Anyway, as I said before, this whole thing is beyond juvenile. Both sport have a place

my dream is for the ufc to allow bites, this technique would change the fights.



Eye gouge too!!

 

[Sticko]

What?...

R u suggesting boxing lightweights would beat MMA heavyweights in an open combat fight to the death?...

The fuck r u on?...

D.C would Litterally throw someone over his head
..and onto there own neck..paralyzed if not dead on impact..

To be fair, JustOnce was saying ten top-100 lightweight boxers would beat 10 journeymen heavyweight MMA fighters in a street fight. "Journeyman" was the key word there.

You countered with DC, one of the greatest MMA heavyweights of all time.

 

[The Chosen]

Honestly I feel Askren didn't know what he was getting himself into. He did that wrestling thing with an elite wrestler that no one watched and lost so he might have viewed it like that. I don't think he knew this was going to be a cultural thing(which tbf would confuse someone in their 30s) until it was too late.

Like he said "if Paul has any boxing talent I will lose", well if he'd done his research about his coaches he'd have realized he did have some level of boxing talent. He was assuming Paul was an idiot who "is too stupid to learn anything" and that was his downfall. I don't think he thought this through he said multiple times he thought it'd be a nice excuse to stay in shape.

He said he didn’t even really know who Jake Paul was lol... I bet he feels like an idiot for essentially destroying his legacy

 

[arrmike]

I think he's more or less right. Way back in UFC 4 (1994) there was a decent, well-built (maybe juiced) boxer named Melton Bowen. He fought Steve Jennum, a cop who trained in ninjitsu part-time (no lie, though they learned some grappling and submission). Jennum handled him pretty easily and had the first arm-bar submission in MMA. Fast forward 27 years and I think most any MMA fighter beats a comparable boxer outside of an occasional flash KO.

Royce armbarred Jason Deluca in ufc 2.

 

[flairleguccijoints]

The public needs to be reminded of this regularly

Interesting a guy from one of the most boxing intense cities ended up doing MMA.
He couldn’t cut it in Philly boxing gyms
The need to justify his reality is just covering up his insecurity.
He should go the gyms down north side and say that and not Twitter.

 

[Paolo Delutis]

To be fair, JustOnce was saying ten top-100 lightweight boxers would beat 10 journeymen heavyweight MMA fighters in a street fight. "Journeyman" was the key word there.

You countered with DC, one of the greatest MMA heavyweights of all time.

What journeyman hw...loses to what lightweight boxer in open combat...give me an example


Come on man.. Lets not go full retard here...

What is a150lbs boxer gunna do to a HW who can kick punch grab..throw...submit..elbow...knee..

 

[Strijfy]

Didnt Eddie get KTFO by Conor whose primarily a boxer? he couldnt even get close enough to instigate his game plan..

 

[camygod]

street fights are mostly shite and against others who cant fight or are out numberd
both a pro boxer and pro mma fighter would kill most average street fighters these people that say they see fighters get kod in street fights i highly doubt they are pro fighters who spend hours a day tranining
this shit has to stop
boxers have better hands and can knock you the fuck out with speed and accuracy buuuut they do have limited skills in terms of other aspect of combat so what it is what it is
fighting isnt just punching

 

[Sticko]

What journeyman hw...loses to what lightweight boxer in open combat...give me an example


Come on man.. Lets not go full retard here...

What is a150lbs boxer gunna do to a HW who can kick punch grab..throw...submit..elbow...knee..

I'm not saying I agree with him or not. Also not sure if he meant 155 or boxing lightweight, which is only 135.

Just to be conservative and go with 154 lbs (super WW / junior MW in boxing), would champion Jermell Charlo (34-1, 18 KOs) beat somebody like Harry Hunsucker or Justin Tafa in a street fight? I don't know but I can see why someone might think he would.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Didnt Eddie get KTFO by Conor whose primarily a boxer? he couldnt even get close enough to instigate his game plan..

Conor is a MMA fighter

 

[avenue94]

More than 22 boxers died in a single year due to injuries suffered inside the ring. A total of 0 MMA players have died or even come close to it in its entire history. MMA is a sport for suburban kids whereas Boxing is for warriors from disadvantaged backgrounds.

MMA fighters die in the regionals, the difference is boxers tend to die form trauma, mma fighters tend to die from dumb weight cuts. At least so far. It's honestly pretty amazing no high level fighters have died in the cage with how bad mma refs and corners tend to be.

 

[HHJ]

street fights are mostly shite and against others who cant fight or are out numberd
both a pro boxer and pro mma fighter would kill most average street fighters these people that say they see fighters get kod in street fights i highly doubt they are pro fighters who spend hours a day tranining
this shit has to stop
boxers have better hands and can knock you the fuck out with speed and accuracy buuuut they do have limited skills in terms of other aspect of combat so what it is what it is
fighting isnt just punching

Why do people constantly bring up being outnumbered?? that has nothing at all to do with what is being talked about,which is simply a one on one confrontation with no rules,as opposed to a one on one confrontation in a controlled enviornment with rules.

Its not that complicated.

 

[JudoJabs]

Interesting a guy from one of the most boxing intense cities ended up doing MMA.
He couldn’t cut it in Philly boxing gyms
The need to justify his reality is just covering up his insecurity.
He should go the gyms down north side and say that and not Twitter.

Super insecure for sure. What’s hilarious is that this is all being triggered by Jake Paul, who is a youtuber.

I don’t think even lower tier boxers care enough to have an opinion on this fight. It’s a side show.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Super insecure for sure. What’s hilarious is that this is all being triggered by Jake Paul, who is a youtuber.

I don’t think even lower tier boxers care enough to have an opinion on this fight. It’s a side show.

Eddie being insecure is totally in your head, why would he be insecure? He's had a great career and made a ton of money

He put out a tweet lol

 

[Snails]

I'm not saying I agree with him or not. Also not sure if he meant 155 or boxing lightweight, which is only 135.

Just to be conservative and go with 154 lbs (super WW / junior MW in boxing), would champion Jermell Charlo (34-1, 18 KOs) beat somebody like Harry Hunsucker or Justin Tafa in a street fight? I don't know but I can see why someone might think he would.

Charlo would KTFO Stipe in a 1 versus 1. No doubt about it.

A level athlete > E level failed beisbol player

 

[horseshoe_pass man]

The public needs to be reminded of this regularly

I see eddie didnt mention medieval rules. Very conveinient. Thats a real fight not the unarmed BS with a restricted rule set and a referee there to save you. He doesnt know a thing about real fighting until he has stood in there opposite a guy and dueled for real like a man. until hes been in there with a man in chain mail bearing down on him with a katana he cant talk about true fighting

 

[JudoJabs]

MMA is also a controlled environment. If bite, eye gouge and balls squeezing were allowed, the whole sport would be a lot different than it is now . Anyway, as I said before, this whole thing is beyond juvenile. Both sport have a place

Yup. Being more “complete” does not equate to any type of guarantee. On the surface it sure does look that way, so I understand when people think this way. There is also no mat on concrete, you’re not barefoot and you’re not wearing loose joggers (meaning less leverage on kicks).

I also don’t think people quite understand the nuance of less is more, as in boxing = addition by subtraction. Take away all other strikes...the hyper focus on punching means an over emphasis on footwork, unlimited positioning angles, and accurate hard punches from every angle you can imagine.

Meaning, there is literally nothing else to do with your legs other than move fast, leverage shots with force quickly and be evasive. It is also drilled to absolute death and pressure tested in sparring so you can do it in your sleep.

Street fights are crapshoots, it is never a 100 percent given.

 

[mjoln]

imagine if we could have have some kind of tools in fights

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