Eddie Alvarez on MMA vs Boxing

[Sir Punchalot]

I do not find it realistic when people are fighting and there are no variables.

In my Neighbourhood if you fight with someone, the person or their friends will stab you.

You sound poor.

 

[Natural Order]

I think he's more or less right. Way back in UFC 4 (1994) there was a decent, well-built (maybe juiced) boxer named Melton Bowen. He fought Steve Jennum, a cop who trained in ninjitsu part-time (no lie, though they learned some grappling and submission). Jennum handled him pretty easily and had the first arm-bar submission in MMA. Fast forward 27 years and I think most any MMA fighter beats a comparable boxer outside of an occasional flash KO.

First armbar submission in MMA?

 

[Dana's Moonface]

Bro i played scoccer in my youth, now i f i start training again i could compete with guys who never stopped? lol this is such a removed from reality take its crazy. Go to your local gym and train some before you make assupmtions about what you "honestly thnik" because thats quite frankly wrong.

You competed in SOCCER? LMAO

You are a yank and most likely shit at football

the average 12 year old kid from Europe or brazil would run rings around you, so no you couldn't compete

 

[Jojomojo]

You competed in SOCCER? LMAO

You are a yank and most likely shit at football

the average 12 year old kid from Europe or brazil would run rings around you, so no you couldn't compete

Bro what are you even trying so tell me? I was te average kide from Europe. Played soccer since i was 19 in Germany to a decent regional level. Now 6 years later, If i wpuld start again, i wouldnt be competitive with most people playing soccer at the fifth lowest league and above.

 

[Dana's Moonface]

Bro what are you even trying so tell me? I was te average kide from Europe. Played soccer since i was 19 in Germany to a decent regional level. Now 6 years later, If i wpuld start again, i wouldnt be competitive with most people playing soccer at the fifth lowest league and above.

Then don't CALL IT SOCCER! I thought you were a yank!!

 

[TJ Dillashank]

They are both good sports and both fights. Neither a street fight though someone trained in either one has a ridiculous advantage against someone in a fist street fight. MMA guys would beat boxers in MMA and the street though some rare cases are gonna happen. Boxers will usually beat MMA guys in boxing though there would also be some rare cases. At the end of the day they are both fighting and sports MMA has more variables though which ultimately makes it superior to boxing fight wise but that takes away nothing in the sports world.

 

[Dana's Moonface]

https://www.boxingscene.com/bob-arum-terence-crawford-better-wrestler-mcgregor--146373

Bud comes from a family of wrestlers and still wrestles outside of boxing camp

With a serious mma camp for a few months he would kill glass jaw Eddie

 

[Jojomojo]

Then don't CALL IT SOCCER! I thought you were a yank!!

I always call it that on here so the muricans understand

 

[Dana's Moonface]

I always call it that on here so the muricans understand

that's why I thought you were shit haha

Average German is world class un murica

 

[MCDojoMMA]

You sound poor.

What do you find poor?

 

[Sanserif]

If anyone had to face a "real fight" to the death but had forewarning, he or she would come armed to the teeth with the most effective weapons he or she had access to. No one who ever had to fight to defend their lives or to seek to wrest scarce resources from those defending them ever did so by choice with their bare hands. The whole talk about realism and mma needs to take into account that mma also follows rules and is a sport like boxing so it is not a different species altogether. Yes it is closer to ultimate realism but it is not "realistic" by any stretch of the imagination - so mma fighters feeling superior to boxing in the basis of realism nedd to realise that real fights to the death are called warfare...

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Who said I was talking shit about MMA? Lol. Thanks for proving my point, insecure.

I actually like both sports, but the boxing crowd isn’t obsessed with comparing against MMA, they’re content to live in their own world. MMA fan boys & fighters are the only ones who get into this absolutely childish comparison of who would win in a real fight. I used to argue with my brother about Skeletor vs. He-Man, your (and Eddie Alvarez’s) post is that level of maturity.

MMA fighters talking shit on boxing I can understand on some level, they’re jealous. The boxing equivalent of Eddie Alvarez makes more in one fight than Eddies made his entire career. He’s butt hurt. But I don’t get why fanboys like you have to play this game. If you don’t like boxing don’t watch.

It's pretty natural to occasionally have a conversation about who would win in a fight lol, it doesn't mean everyone who talks about it is insecure

It's silly to go back and forth about who is more insecure, but isn't it kind of insecure to jump down anyone's throat who discusses what is more effective?

The Boxing crowd compares Boxing to MMA all the time, it's pretty natural to compare for obvious reasons, I don't know why so many people get triggered if the conversation is brought up, it's not as serious as you're taking it. It can be constructive to compare the two, Boxing does some things better than MMA, and vice versa, but they are essentially a different version of the same business model, so it makes sense to compare them and discuss which one does better at different things

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

If anyone had to face a "real fight" to the death but had forewarning, he or she would come armed to the teeth with the most effective weapons he or she had access to. No one who ever had to fight to defend their lives or to seek to wrest scarce resources from those defending them ever did so by choice with their bare hands. The whole talk about realism and mma needs to take into account that mma also follows rules and is a sport like boxing so it is not a different species altogether. Yes it is closer to ultimate realism but it is not "realistic" by any stretch of the imagination - so mma fighters feeling superior to boxing in the basis of realism nedd to realise that real fights to the death are called warfare...

The amount of people that only want to talk about weapons as if there are no self defense scenarios without them are hilarious

 

[Irabbs]

The public needs to be reminded of this regularly

Why are mma fans/fighters so defensive about their own sport that they have to put boxing and boxers down. I bet you alverez would love to have made elite boxing money instead of the peanuts he's made and he would change his tune. Resorting to this street fight argument is something I hear mma fans talk about all the time. You think floyd or canelo care about if they got whooped on the octagon or in a street fight? They are too busy making money and building their legacy in a sport which has a rich history

 

[Irabbs]

Anti boxing talk is just as lame as anti mma talk.They are both great sports. People need to stop being so defensive about it.

Exactly. It's also mma fans more so then boxing fans doing this.

 

[avenue94]

The Boxing crowd compares Boxing to MMA all the time

What do they compare? You don't really see boxers or boxing fans clamoring for crossover fights into mma.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

Why are mma fans/fighters so defensive about their own sport that they have to put boxing and boxers down. I bet you alverez would love to have made elite boxing money instead of the peanuts he's made and he would change his tune. Resorting to this street fight argument is something I hear mma fans talk about all the time. You think floyd or canelo care about if they got whooped on the octagon or in a street fight? They are too busy making money and building their legacy in a sport which has a rich history

Why are dudes like you so defensive if the conversation ever gets brought up? Do you think Eddie Alvarez doesn't respect the shit out of dudes like Floyd, or Canelo?

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

why do people, even fighters like Eddie act like a boxer like, let's say Deontay Wilder couldn't KO a lot of MMA guys before they got to do anything.

 

[Irabbs]

Why are dudes like you so defensive if the conversation ever gets brought up? Do you think Eddie Alvarez doesn't respect the shit out of dudes like Floyd, or Canelo?

I watch both sports and love both sports. But I respect the skill level in both. One thing I notice about mma fans who don't follow boxing is they criticise boxing because they want the ufc to overtake boxing all across the world. Mma fans are lore defensive for me then boxing fans. From a fighters perspective I wouldn't care if I was making more money like I said do you think canelo cares about if usman subs him on the road or in the octagon? Lol he makes 10x as much he couldn't care less. He doesn't care about being the baddest man on the planet like mma fans think he or boxers should. I think it's time for everyone to respect both sports considering the amount of deaths and brain damage, both are dangerous sports with warriors in both.

 

[Irabbs]

I think he's more or less right. Way back in UFC 4 (1994) there was a decent, well-built (maybe juiced) boxer named Melton Bowen. He fought Steve Jennum, a cop who trained in ninjitsu part-time (no lie, though they learned some grappling and submission). Jennum handled him pretty easily and had the first arm-bar submission in MMA. Fast forward 27 years and I think most any MMA fighter beats a comparable boxer outside of an occasional flash KO.

Well duh the boxer is trained in one discipline of fighting. Well done for that analysis.