Dump the G.O.P. for a Grand New Party

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Thomas L. Friedman

If a party could declare moral bankruptcy, today’s Republican Party would be in Chapter 11.

This party needs to just shut itself down and start over — now. Seriously, someone please start a New Republican Party!

America needs a healthy two-party system. America needs a healthy center-right party to ensure that the Democrats remain a healthy center-left party. America needs a center-right party ready to offer market-based solutions to issues like climate change. America needs a center-right party that will support common-sense gun laws. America needs a center-right party that will support common-sense fiscal policy. America needs a center-right party to support both free trade and aid to workers impacted by it. America needs a center-right party that appreciates how much more complicated foreign policy is today, when you have to manage weak and collapsing nations, not just muscle strong ones.

But this Republican Party is none of those things. Today’s G.O.P. is to governing what Trump University is to education — an ethically challenged enterprise that enriches and perpetuates itself by shedding all pretense of standing for real principles, or a truly relevant value proposition, and instead plays on the ignorance and fears of the public.

It is just an empty shell, selling pieces of itself to the highest bidders, — policy by policy — a little to the Tea Party over here, a little to Big Oil over there, a little to the gun lobby, to antitax zealots, to climate-change deniers. And before you know it, the party stands for an incoherent mess of ideas unrelated to any theory of where the world is going or how America actually becomes great again in the 21st century.

It becomes instead a coalition of men and women who sell pieces of their brand to whoever can most energize their base in order for them to get re-elected in order for them to sell more pieces of their brand in order to get re-elected.

And we know just how little they are attached to any principles, because today’s Republican Party’s elders have told us so by (with a few notable exceptions) being so willing to throw their support behind a presidential candidate who they know is utterly ignorant of policy, has done no homework, has engaged in racist attacks on a sitting judge, has mocked a disabled reporter, has impugned an entire religious community, and has tossed off ignorant proposals for walls, for letting allies go it alone and go nuclear and for overturning trade treaties, rules of war and nuclear agreements in ways that would be wildly destabilizing if he took office.

Despite that, all top G.O.P. leaders say they will still support Donald Trump — even if he’s dabbled in a “textbook definition” of racism, as House Speaker Paul Ryan described it — because he will sign off on their agenda and can do only limited damage given our checks and balances.

Really? Mr. Speaker, your agenda is a mess, Trump will pay even less attention to you if he is president and, as Senator Lindsey Graham rightly put it, there has to be a time “when the love of country will trump hatred of Hillary.”

Will it ever be that time with this version of the G.O.P.?

Et tu, John McCain? You didn’t break under torture from the North Vietnamese, but your hunger for re-election is so great that you don’t dare raise your voice against Trump? I hope you lose. You deserve to. Marco Rubio? You called Trump “a con man,” he insults your very being and you still endorse him? Good riddance.

Chris Christie, have you not an ounce of self-respect? You’re serving as the valet to a man who claimed, falsely, that on 9/11, in Jersey City, home to many Arab-Americans, “thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down.” Christie is backing a man who made up a baldfaced lie about residents of his own state so that maybe he can be his vice president. Contemptible.

This is exactly why so many Republican voters opted for Trump in the first place. They intuited that the only thing these G.O.P. politicians were interested in was holding onto their seats in office — and they were right. It made voters so utterly cynical that many figured, Why not inflict Trump on them? It’s all just a con game anyway. And at least Trump sticks it to all of those politically correct liberals. And anyway, governing doesn’t matter — only attitude.

And who taught them that?
But it does matter. I know so many thoughtful conservatives who know it matters. One of them has got to start the N.R.P. — New Republican Party — a center-right party liberated from all the Trump birthers, the Sarah Palins, the Grover Norquists, the Sean Hannitys, the Rush Limbaughs, the gun lobby, the oil lobby and every other narrow-interest group, a party that redefines a principled conservatism. Raise your money for it on the internet. If Bernie Sanders can, you can.

This is such a pivotal moment; the world we shaped after W.W. II is going wobbly. This is a time for America to be at its best, defending its best values, which are now under assault in so many places — pluralism, immigration, democracy, trade, the rule of law and the virtue of open societies. Trump will never be a credible messenger, or a messenger at all, for those values. A New Republican Party can be.

If you build it, they will come.
 
So the new party will be sort off Republican lite?
 
So the new party will be sort off Republican lite?
Well the article does explain things pretty well. Its bizarre that a center right candidate can't even get close to winning the primaries anymore, you have to talk completely crazy to get any attention.
 
Trump is the new party, not sure what people don't get about that.
 
Well the article does explain things pretty well. Its bizarre that a center right candidate can't even get close to winning the primaries anymore, you have to talk completely crazy to get any attention.
But a center right candidate did win a primary this year.

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Basically, we need only consider establishment candidates.
 
Thomas L. Friedman...

It is just an empty shell, selling pieces of itself to the highest bidders, — policy by policy — a little to the Tea Party over here, a little to Big Oil over there, a little to the gun lobby, to antitax zealots, to climate-change deniers. And before you know it, the party stands for an incoherent mess of ideas unrelated to any theory of where the world is going or how America actually becomes great again in the 21st century...

If you build it, they will come.

Friedman is partially wrong.

Look, the Republican party has to change.

They have to lay off the abortion thing. Because there are a lot of people out there that are one issue voters. And if you are against abortion, you are not getting that vote. And that number is growing.

He is partially wrong on climate change deniers. That's like saying all Democrats want to raise taxes. That's not true either. The problem with climate change is can the United States and the world to do anything about it? The clear answer is no. Because the only legislation that was put up had an exemption for China and other developing nations. But the Democratic party would call this a win. It's not a win.

Climate Change Accord in Paris


I could turn around the entire argument and pick on the Democratic Party. With the policies that are against free market, high taxes that stifle jobs for working Americans, wealth redistribution instead of wealth creation, beholden to the teacher unions that affect our kids education, etc.

It was nothing wrong with the Tea Party. As I understand it, it was taxed enough already. We paying off a lot of taxes. And not getting anything for our money. All we get is more and more debt. Jobs overseas. Hell, and our economy is faltering and they gave a stimulus plan it only benefits the manufacturing facilities overseas. Yeah, and the people who working in the retail stores that selling those products. It helps our competition more than it helps us.

I like Tom Friedman. And I usually like we rights. I think he's off base on this one. Partially.

-T

Edit. Excuse the broken English. Speech to text is not perfect. Damn that Google.
 
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I read that piece yesterday and he's right. I think it would be great for the country if we had a right leaning party that was actually based on well thought out conservative positions and we didn't have the hyperpartisanship we see now. The right has gone full retard and hopefully the sane wing of the party can bring them back.

As he pointed out climate change is a perfect example. Instead of debating liberal and conservative solutions to the problem we have one side claiming it's a hoax. Instead of liberal vs conservative solutions to income inequality we have one side that thinks people have it too easy and wants policy that would make things much worse. On and on.

Conservatives in the country need better representation IMO. The current clowns do not really represent the views of the party.
 
I miss the days when the Democrats were center left and the Republicans were center right and we debated on the differences in between. The whole thing has become a shit show and I can only blame the MSM for pitting the parties against each other like we are mortal enemies.

A liberal and a conservative will likely agree on 95% of issues but it's the 5% that get blown out of proportion and it's because that;s all the media wants to talk about. Either both parties should start over or we should introduce two new parties. One for the left wing wackjobs and one for the right wing wackjobs
 
I read that piece yesterday and he's right. I think it would be great for the country if we had a right leaning party that was actually based on well thought out conservative positions and we didn't have the hyperpartisanship we see now. The right has gone full retard and hopefully the sane wing of the party can bring them back.

As he pointed out climate change is a perfect example. Instead of debating liberal and conservative solutions to the problem we have one side claiming it's a hoax. Instead of liberal vs conservative solutions to income inequality we have one side that thinks people have it too easy and wants policy that would make things much worse. On and on.

Conservatives in the country need better representation IMO. The current clowns do not really represent the views of the party.

I have read too many articles by experts that casted doubt on the dAta.

If it is man made (probably is) both parties failed. Why? Because the Left's carbon tax and No Nuke Plants, and Give China and evolving countries a pass.... well, that's not a solution.

And the Right does not want a Feel Good bill that does not solve the problem.

-T
 
Thomas L. Friedman

If a party could declare moral bankruptcy, today’s Republican Party would be in Chapter 11.

This party needs to just shut itself down and start over — now. Seriously, someone please start a New Republican Party!

America needs a healthy two-party system. America needs a healthy center-right party to ensure that the Democrats remain a healthy center-left party. America needs a center-right party ready to offer market-based solutions to issues like climate change. America needs a center-right party that will support common-sense gun laws. America needs a center-right party that will support common-sense fiscal policy. America needs a center-right party to support both free trade and aid to workers impacted by it. America needs a center-right party that appreciates how much more complicated foreign policy is today, when you have to manage weak and collapsing nations, not just muscle strong ones.

But this Republican Party is none of those things. Today’s G.O.P. is to governing what Trump University is to education — an ethically challenged enterprise that enriches and perpetuates itself by shedding all pretense of standing for real principles, or a truly relevant value proposition, and instead plays on the ignorance and fears of the public.

It is just an empty shell, selling pieces of itself to the highest bidders, — policy by policy — a little to the Tea Party over here, a little to Big Oil over there, a little to the gun lobby, to antitax zealots, to climate-change deniers. And before you know it, the party stands for an incoherent mess of ideas unrelated to any theory of where the world is going or how America actually becomes great again in the 21st century.

It becomes instead a coalition of men and women who sell pieces of their brand to whoever can most energize their base in order for them to get re-elected in order for them to sell more pieces of their brand in order to get re-elected.

And we know just how little they are attached to any principles, because today’s Republican Party’s elders have told us so by (with a few notable exceptions) being so willing to throw their support behind a presidential candidate who they know is utterly ignorant of policy, has done no homework, has engaged in racist attacks on a sitting judge, has mocked a disabled reporter, has impugned an entire religious community, and has tossed off ignorant proposals for walls, for letting allies go it alone and go nuclear and for overturning trade treaties, rules of war and nuclear agreements in ways that would be wildly destabilizing if he took office.

Despite that, all top G.O.P. leaders say they will still support Donald Trump — even if he’s dabbled in a “textbook definition” of racism, as House Speaker Paul Ryan described it — because he will sign off on their agenda and can do only limited damage given our checks and balances.

Really? Mr. Speaker, your agenda is a mess, Trump will pay even less attention to you if he is president and, as Senator Lindsey Graham rightly put it, there has to be a time “when the love of country will trump hatred of Hillary.”

Will it ever be that time with this version of the G.O.P.?

Et tu, John McCain? You didn’t break under torture from the North Vietnamese, but your hunger for re-election is so great that you don’t dare raise your voice against Trump? I hope you lose. You deserve to. Marco Rubio? You called Trump “a con man,” he insults your very being and you still endorse him? Good riddance.

Chris Christie, have you not an ounce of self-respect? You’re serving as the valet to a man who claimed, falsely, that on 9/11, in Jersey City, home to many Arab-Americans, “thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down.” Christie is backing a man who made up a baldfaced lie about residents of his own state so that maybe he can be his vice president. Contemptible.

This is exactly why so many Republican voters opted for Trump in the first place. They intuited that the only thing these G.O.P. politicians were interested in was holding onto their seats in office — and they were right. It made voters so utterly cynical that many figured, Why not inflict Trump on them? It’s all just a con game anyway. And at least Trump sticks it to all of those politically correct liberals. And anyway, governing doesn’t matter — only attitude.

And who taught them that?
But it does matter. I know so many thoughtful conservatives who know it matters. One of them has got to start the N.R.P. — New Republican Party — a center-right party liberated from all the Trump birthers, the Sarah Palins, the Grover Norquists, the Sean Hannitys, the Rush Limbaughs, the gun lobby, the oil lobby and every other narrow-interest group, a party that redefines a principled conservatism. Raise your money for it on the internet. If Bernie Sanders can, you can.

This is such a pivotal moment; the world we shaped after W.W. II is going wobbly. This is a time for America to be at its best, defending its best values, which are now under assault in so many places — pluralism, immigration, democracy, trade, the rule of law and the virtue of open societies. Trump will never be a credible messenger, or a messenger at all, for those values. A New Republican Party can be.

If you build it, they will come.
So, basically the author wants Republicans to act more like Democrats. Shocking......

Just in terms of the gun lobby/gun control, can you possibly think of any reason why Republican voters are so opposed to gun control? If you answer that question honestly (Not just throwing insults at people you disagree with), you will get to the core of conservative philosophy in America.
 
The right could do with a reformation and all, but I'm not seeing any place near the center to stake out their "new" platform. They will have to radically change it. Friedman offers no good advice there besides subsidizing green energy, ignoring the NRA and not being batshit crazy about everything. He is still singing the praises of closed society. It's just not a good article, not much thought in there. Maybe he's speaking in code and is really saying something to the right?
 
I have read too many articles by experts that casted doubt on the dAta.

If it is man made (probably is) both parties failed. Why? Because the Left's carbon tax and No Nuke Plants, and Give China and evolving countries a pass.... well, that's not a solution.

And the Right does not want a Feel Good bill that does not solve the problem.

-T
Huh? Did you hear about the summit in Paris? That is a great first step in getting countries on board with doing something about climate change. And btw, it sounds like China will be doing something about the issue.

Anyway, the point is one side is making a good faith attempt to solve the problem and the other side thinks it's the boogeyman. And for your articles, IDK what you've read, but there is a scientific consensus on the issue.
 
I did, it's just dumb.

Trump is what people want, otherwise Cruz, Rubio or Kasich would have won the nom.

Uhm, the article actually said that. The moral bankruptcy of the party is that Cruz, Rubio, Kasich will claim to not support someone like Trump then turn around and endorse anyway just so that they can keep their elected positions. The people recognize that and so reject the Cruz's, Rubio's and Kasich's of the world. The implication is that Trump is almost a protest vote against the current party establishment.
 
what you really need is to get rid of free loading, entitled leftist who think equality should happen regardless of merit: As well as get rid of the religious, gun loving and racist right- who also have entitlement issues

and let the centrist figure out how keep the ship afloat.

Politicians go where the votes are - not where the best results are.
 
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He's right and it's been this way for years. THe fact that we discuss the GOP primaries and everyone knows they're going psycho until the nomination and then pivoting back to center tells us how off kilter the party has become. That we openly described our policy agenda as opposing Obama via obstructionism, rather than convincing the public to support us.

I'm somewhat optimistic because I think this is essentially the death throes of the old guard who learned political strategy during the Nixon era. They're going to die out because they have yet to figure out to reach modern America. This mockumentary that is Trump is just part of the culling process.
 
I read that piece yesterday and he's right. I think it would be great for the country if we had a right leaning party that was actually based on well thought out conservative positions and we didn't have the hyperpartisanship we see now. The right has gone full retard and hopefully the sane wing of the party can bring them back.

As he pointed out climate change is a perfect example. Instead of debating liberal and conservative solutions to the problem we have one side claiming it's a hoax. Instead of liberal vs conservative solutions to income inequality we have one side that thinks people have it too easy and wants policy that would make things much worse. On and on.

Conservatives in the country need better representation IMO. The current clowns do not really represent the views of the party.

But they do represent the will of the party's ignorant electorate. That's why guys like Huntsman, Kasich, and Pataki never stand a chance.

Also, the nation needs a "health two party system" like it needs a double dip recession. The nation and its people need liberation from the two party system. Tearing it down and burning the rubble should be the chief concern of all US citizens before addressing issues through a functional political system.
 
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