Dricus use to fight at 170 and is not a "Giant" Middleweight plus his only KO loss

Hellowhosthat said:
No, shows where decision making gets you. Dricus is becoming a big star whereas Soldic hardly ever fights because he signed a contract with ONE which seems to be too expensive for them to actually fulfil.
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Why so people keep signing with ONE? They barely put on MMA fights, barely have a roster and yet they snap up some really good prospects all the time. It makes no sense, I guess they think theyll get paid big.
 
Here, lemme help ya out.


Dricus isn't a giant middleweight because look at all his welterweight career
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Not to be confused with GIANT Strickland, who has been at middleweight for a long time now.
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Legendary said:


Dricus is 6ft. and probably weighs about 200 pounds in shape. Guys like Rockhold were 6'3 and walked at 215. Izzy is 6'4 and probably 205-210 pounds towards the end of his reign.

He also use to fight at 170 and got KO'd by a guy who is 5'9 at best. Dricus had just beat him and this was the rematch.

Dricus's win over Whittaker was super impressive, but unless he gets Sean down I think Sean will do what he normally does and wear's him down with volume.


In shape DDP is literately an averaged sized middleweight. Rogan is full of shit. Robert Whittaker was a smaller MW so of course DDP looked bigger.
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I'm 5 ft 10.7 200 lbs mostly muscle and dricus is definitely bigger than me.... you can just be wrong if you want
 
rjmbrd said:
The analogy would make more sense if Brock previously fought at 205lbs. That is anatomically impossible for someone the size of Brock.

In any event, the truth is somewhere in the middle. DDP has grown into a big middleweight, but he doesn't have a particularly big frame for the division. He could be overly muscled but its hard to say since he's doing well and not running out of gas.

Joe is definitely making too much of it. DDP is like all UFC caliber professional fighters in person - regular people are shocked they make the weight.
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it makes sense because my point is it doesn't matter what weight you fought at before. it's how you're built that matters. Anthony Johnson used to fight at WW, when he moved up 3 weight classes to LHW he wasn't a small LHW. the OP used height so i compared how Brock Lesnar being a freak at 6'3 is not the same as 6'3 Augusto Sakai's bowl of jello build. even if both Sakai and Brock weighed the same weight, Brock will appear bigger because of his build. just like DDP, it's not so much that he's got huge bone structure or is freakishly tall, people look at him like he's an absolute unit because of his muscle mass compared to the majority of other MWs.

i don't think DDP has a large bone structure or is particularly large for a MW, but he is quite jacked and that's something people associate with size.
 
DDP doesn't have a huge frame like people imply, he's sorta like Poirier who grew into the weight class and put on muscle. Thats cool but guys like Pereira really are the big ones at the weight class. DDP is like a tank.
 
Legendary said:
No he didn't. He debuted at 185, check yourself before you wreck yourself.

Its like you guys just parrot what everyone's says and dont do your own research. Its readily available.

Sean's first 2 fights in the UFC were at 185. He moved down to 170 for 8 fights, and has since had another 10 fights at MW since returning.
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He debuted at welterweight. You don’t have your facts straight
 
hes muscular and thick but not a big MW
you wanna talk about real big MWs?
guys like weidman rockhold and even izzy are big dude
dont be fooled by izzy when he fought at LHW
dude packs weight if he wanted to
 
MMAFanCal said:
Dricus said he walks around at 215 - 225 lbs. He likes to be around 215 lbs, but he does go up to 225 lbs in the off.

There was another thread on this loss which was back in 2018. He has never lost a fight since then. Also, Dricus won the first fight against Soldic. He simply threw the game plan out in the 2nd fight and lost because he did not mix it up like the first fight. If Dricus stands and only trades with Strickland then the same thing could happen. However, he has mixed it up in every fight since then.

Who has Strickland lost to? He was literally a slightly above average middleweight before his win against Adesanya. Andy V who was a journeyman fighter who never won a fighter after his win against Strickland and he lost to Cannonier. He was 2-2 before he fought Adesanya with his most recent loss coming in 2022. Not implying Strickland cannot win. He absolutely can, but using a very old loss to make a point about Dricus, is not valid. Just be objective rather than being emotional in order to make selective arguments that suit the recency bias.



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I don't understand why losing to Cannonier is looked at as a "bad loss". Dude is a hard match up for anyone at MW and has only lost to Izzy and Rob which are respectable losses.
 
Pancake Sprawl said:
it makes sense because my point is it doesn't matter what weight you fought at before.
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Yes it does, because that is more information. More information is always useful.

Pancake Sprawl said:
it's how you're built that matters. Anthony Johnson used to fight at WW, when he moved up 3 weight classes to LHW he wasn't a small LHW.
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Arguably top 5, all time, since the history of MMA for weight class transformation. We don't usually pick the exception to be the rule or even as a reasonable example. Why would this need to be typed out?

Pancake Sprawl said:
i don't think DDP has a large bone structure or is particularly large for a MW, but he is quite jacked and that's something people associate with size.
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I think this is fair. He's a well muscled, appropriately sized middleweight. Joe Rogan over emphasis on his size is what people are talking about.
 
Megatronlee said:
He debuted at welterweight. You don’t have your facts straight
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That wasn't the question. He debuted in the UFC at 185. That was the question.

You are wrong. You can just change the premise of your answer because you got proven wrong. No one gives a fuck that Sean had his professional debut at 170, only to fight 185 and 205 in his next fights.

Just because Mohawk was vague doesn't mean he was right. He was definitely insinuating that Sean debuted in the UFC at 170.

Also no one ever said Sean was a giant MW. It just the Rogan lie that DDP is a giant MW when there are multiple fighters in MW history who Dwarf DDP like Poatan, Rockhold, Weidman when he fought Maia etc.
 
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Legendary said:
That wasn't the question. He debuted in the UFC at 185. That was the question.
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Wrong again, idiot. The post that you took contention to was:
Herwald said:
Boyo, DDP has had 4 WW fights in his entire career. And those were in between his MW fights. Strickland debuted as a WW and had a 3 year run in UFC at WW.
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See how he not only specifically said "Strickland debuted as a WW and had a 3 year run in the UFC at WW" meaning that he addressed them as two separate things (because if it wasn't separate, then it would have been entirely redundant), but additionally, the context from the sentence before was DDP's "entire career," so you should have walked into the next sentence about Strickland's debut being in that context.

Strickland DID debut as a WW. Educate yourself.

Also sounds like you should revisit that post again, because you'll read that the username is Herwald, but apparently you think:
Legendary said:
Just because Mohawk was vague doesn't mean he was right. He was definitely insinuating that Sean debuted in the UFC at 170.
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Even though that person's not me. So you just can't stop being wrong. And again, if you know how to read context, that definitely wasn't the insinuation, you just read it wrong.

The information is all right in front of you, and you keep failing to see it. Sounds like you should brush up on your knowledge.
 
HuskySamoan said:
Why so people keep signing with ONE? They barely put on MMA fights, barely have a roster and yet they snap up some really good prospects all the time. It makes no sense, I guess they think theyll get paid big.
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It's just that, mostly. ONE promises the world.
 
HuskySamoan said:
Why so people keep signing with ONE? They barely put on MMA fights, barely have a roster and yet they snap up some really good prospects all the time. It makes no sense, I guess they think theyll get paid big.
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It worked well for some few, as Malykhin, De Ridder or even Mighty Mouse
 
jeff7b9 said:
So, I would love to hear the explanation as to why a supposedly 210-215 pound Adesanya decided to cut to 200.5 for his LHW title shot vs Jan.

Is your theory that he would somehow get faster by cutting an additional 4.5 pounds of water?

Or would cutting 4.5 pounds for fun help his grappling somehow?
How's that work? <{1-7}>
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He has added significant muscle mass since the Jan fight. You can see it in the weigh ins and especially on fight night. He wasn't cutting at all for the Jan fight, but in subsequent fights he has added 10 pounds of muscle I reckon. Especially against Strickland he looked bigger. Out of camp he looks bigger as well. Last time I saw him on the camera at the last numbered card or something his neck looked huge compared to what it used to.
 
Mohawk Banditó said:
Wrong again, idiot. The post that you took contention to was:

See how he not only specifically said "Strickland debuted as a WW and had a 3 year run in the UFC at WW" meaning that he addressed them as two separate things (because if it wasn't separate, then it would have been entirely redundant), but additionally, the context from the sentence before was DDP's "entire career," so you should have walked into the next sentence about Strickland's debut being in that context.

Strickland DID debut as a WW. Educate yourself.
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Whats the point of even bringing up that Sean debuted at WW as a teenager at 17 years old?
 
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