International Donald Trump tarriff strategy in action - Colombian President dicktucks and gives Trump exactly what he wants.

[ShadowRun]

Trump is sending illegal immigrants and criminals back to their home country and you guys are worried about the price of Folgers theoretically going up in pretend world where the tariffs haven't happened because Trump's team executed that threat brilliantly.

Really grasping at straws at this point.

What's the price on safety of people ? These are people that committed crimes in the states....

"but my coffee reeeee"

 

[ShadowRun]

Sure. He has also kept dozens of promises and over delivered on a few of them. Bigly.

 

[HereticBD]

I could feel the Sunny Hostin inner rage boiling...

Who'd a thunk that friggin' Fetterman would be the sole voice of reason for the Democrats? Ever since he got out of the hospital, he's a new man. Can we send more of them for treatment at that place? They do good work.

 

[Deleted member 267581]

Even in the case of smaller countries like Colombia I wonder if antagonizing then in this way is wise for the long term health of our relationship.

And the issue is what if someone calls his bluff? Is he actually going to impose severe tariffs? I hope not but then the alternative of his bluff being called is hardly better, hurts US credibility.

This strongman mafia shit sounds good to idiots, but what stops these countries from running to China and Russia and joining brics?

 

[RemyR]

My reaction to the news:

 

[SKYNET]

So instead of welcoming them back to their legal land with dignity...he wanted them to stay?
Because Colombia doesn't want them

and based on that logic, our former poopy pants and Kamelion admin would have welcomed them to a free room in high end hotel along with debit cards for spending, all on the American taxpayers dime.

 

[oldshadow]

No, they can't.

Out of the 23,388 wildly, astonishingly misunderstood things about immigration, this might be #1.

There's this prevailing idea that the illegals have this path towards work visas available but that they just choose not to take it. So 12 million people choose to live in the shadows, with all that that entails, out of sheer laziness, stupidity, impatience, love of illegality, or something along those lines. Well, I gotta tell you, that's not true.

THOSE WORK VISAS AREN'T AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE.

Those 130,000 or whatever visas divided by 100+ countries results is roughly 1,000 visas per year, per country. That's basically nothing so actually obtaining one is pretty much a lottery. They obviously run out immediately so 99.8% of people that would like to come here and work, cannot. So, many of them choose to do it illegally. Again, not because signing up for these work visas is too much of a hassle for them, but rather because it's their only choice.

So if the US decides ir could use more legal workers in would grant more visas.

Sounds like a winning plan. Controlled imagination.

 

[ChosenOne]

Cope about what? I enjoy watching you guys clap like seals for empty theater.

ZOMG, Trump is sending migrants back to Columbia as Biden did before him and Obama before that but Trump is using a MIlitary plane and shackles.

Did you not hear what i said... A military plane and shackles. Everyone get up and applaud the man...

I am still hoping a Magat will explain to me why this thread has such 12 year old fan girl energy over a normal course action that both Obama and Biden did more than Trump did, or even tried to do, in his first term before he got bored with it and mostly dropped it and his wall push?

Flying migrants who are rejected back to their country of origin is aboluletly nothing new. Dozens of plane loads alone to Colombia since Obama really cranked up the expulsions.

So is the seal like clapping just a 'relief that Trump will follow in Obama's and Bidens shoes on this'?

Or is it because 'while Trump is doing the same thing he is using military planes and shackles to make it a spectacle'?


Magats? Anyone???

 

[CantCucktheTuck]

I could feel the Sunny Hostin inner rage boiling...

Who'd a thunk that friggin' Fetterman would be the sole voice of reason for the Democrats? Ever since he got out of the hospital, he's a new man. Can we send more of them for treatment at that place? They do good work.

Seriously...it's like that stroke caused him to have an epiphany.

 

[BFoe]

No, you really didn't. You're looking at hypotheticals that didn't happen(because reality is kicking your liberal ass to the curb right now), and are pretending to be concerned as if they were to happen in a different universe that you live in. One that is more kind to your idiotic political views that are currently getting stomped into dust at the moment in the real world.

You're not fooling anyone. You're just coping and making an ass out of yourself trying to play pretend. Get a grip. You're a whole week into this shit, and you're already crashing out. Have some self respect.

“Reeeee no one is allowed to question Dear Leader!”
Evaluating hypotheticals—pros and cons, how someone might respond to an action, how to respond to that response, the overall effect of something across multiple areas—is how intelligent people evaluate things.
I understand that to someone like you, this must look like sorcery or witchcraft.

 

[BFoe]

Seriously...it's like that stroke caused him to have an epiphany.

It probably just caused him lose full brain function, which puts him more in line with you guys than us.

 

[HereticBD]

“Reeeee no one is allowed to question Dear Leader!”
Evaluating hypotheticals—pros and cons, how someone might respond to an action, how to respond to that response, the overall effect of something across multiple areas—is how intelligent people evaluate things.

Not after the fact. All you're doing is trying to live in an alternate universe that appeals to your delusions. You're not fooling anyone.

 

[Rational Poster]

This is like when rich guys set homeless people on fire to feel powerful.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Wait, so direct flights straight back to Columbia?

@KAZSoliloquy what happened, I thought illegals were going straight to internment camps where they would be worked to death?

 

[BFoe]

So if the US decides ir could use more legal workers in would grant more visas.

Sounds like a winning plan. Controlled imagination.

Most of these visas take months to get though. Regardless of one’s views on immigration, we risk running into a serious problem if the rate of deportation ends up far exceeding the rates at which work visas are issued. You can put 40 people on one plane and send them wherever on a single day, but it will takes weeks at a minimum, and more likely 3-6 months, to issue work visas to replace them.

If you get too crazy with deportation, we’ll end up with a labor shortage which means a production shortage which means inflation, which I thought Trump was supposed to be working on because taking inflation from 9% down to 2.2% and wages increasing 19% as we did, was somehow terrible and not good enough.

This is most drastic issue is with farming, where 42% of all farm labor is undocumented immigrants. Obviously, that involves food which is perishable, so a labor shortage there is big trouble.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

This strongman mafia shit sounds good to idiots, but what stops these countries from running to China and Russia and joining brics?

Brics isn't even a formal organization if you're talking about structure. it's an informal agreement.
And running to Russia and China? yeah, that sounds like paradise.

 

[oldshadow]

Most of these visas take months to get though. Regardless of one’s views on immigration, we risk running into a serious problem if the rate of deportation ends up far exceeding the rates at which work visas are issued. You can put 40 people on one plane and send them wherever on a single day, but it will takes weeks at a minimum, and more likely 3-6 months, to issue work visas to replace them.

If you get too crazy with deportation, we’ll end up with a labor shortage which means a production shortage which means inflation, which I thought Trump was supposed to be working on because taking inflation from 9% down to 2.2% and wages increasing 19% as we did, was somehow terrible and not good enough.

This is most drastic issue is with farming, where 42% of all farm labor is undocumented immigrants. Obviously, that involves food which is perishable, so a labor shortage there is big trouble.

Let's see what happens chicken little. I think they will be able to handle it.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Most of these visas take months to get though. Regardless of one’s views on immigration, we risk running into a serious problem if the rate of deportation ends up far exceeding the rates at which work visas are issued. You can put 40 people on one plane and send them wherever on a single day, but it will takes weeks at a minimum, and more likely 3-6 months, to issue work visas to replace them.

If you get too crazy with deportation, we’ll end up with a labor shortage which means a production shortage which means inflation, which I thought Trump was supposed to be working on because taking inflation from 9% down to 2.2% and wages increasing 19% as we did, was somehow terrible and not good enough.

This is most drastic issue is with farming, where 42% of all farm labor is undocumented immigrants. Obviously, that involves food which is perishable, so a labor shortage there is big trouble.

Not disagreeing with what you're saying, just marveling at the fact that America is still unable to figure out an economic model that doesn't widely rely on the work of modern day slaves.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

What's the price on safety of people ? These are people that committed crimes in the states....

"but my coffee reeeee"

They have no empathy for victims, only for criminals.

 

[Rational Poster]

Not disagreeing with what you're saying, just marveling at the fact that America is still unable to figure out an economic model that doesn't widely rely on the work of modern day slaves.

There's not enough workers to tread water, let alone grow, and it's only going to get worse year by year. It's literally a labor shortage issue, not a wage issue.

Even in some fantasy scenario where farms are subsidized so much they can pay farmhands more than coders, we'll just be depriving another industry of its work force.

Borrowing from Peter to pay Paul.