Crime Donald Trump Hush Money Fraud Trial (5/30 Update: Trump Found Guilty on All 34 Felony Charges)

[KOPPE]

 

[Deorum]

Avoiding pirates makes for fun stories.

I took your suggestions last week on what the US should do as friendly advice, whereas the other dudes immediately had the knives out. It's still relative fantasy though, post-war American statecraft remains entrenched, and people vastly overstate the necessity of global hegemony when it comes to the interests of its citizenry at large. I'm not MAGA because it's already great in so many ways to a surreal degree. I am very much America First though.

 

[Brueskie]

I was hoping the cult of personality surrounding an American president peaked with Obama, but Trump and his supporters proved that to be a false hope. For many who support Trump, it goes well beyond questions of whose policies you prefer—these people fucking love the man. They love the blatant grifter and con man Donald J. Trump. How wrecked does your own sense of self-worth and personal pride have to be for that to even be possible? What is it about the human psyche that allows people from Adolph Hitler to Jim Jones to any number of megachurch pastors to gain so many adoring followers? The answer to that question surely won't be found on Sherdog.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

I took your suggestions last week on what the US should do as friendly advice, whereas the other dudes immediately had the knives out. It's still relative fantasy though, post-war American statecraft remains entrenched, and people vastly overstate the necessity of global hegemony when it comes to the interests of its citizenry at large. I'm not MAGA because it's already great in so many ways to a surreal degree. I am very much America First though.

My problem is growing up in the horrible dark that was communism in Eastern euro where we could not even speak about America, and listening to radio free Europe under the blanket with the parents, thus forming an overlap of an idealized land and America.

But then communism fell and then I grew up and ended up in America eventually and living for a while in the richest possible way America can be rich - Connecticut old money mayflowers. You'd never hear that America speak like today's America - it looks like baboons have taken over the white house and foreign policy and internal politics.

But as I said, my image of the place is either idealized or not representative. American old money is just like European old money, you couldn't tell them apart at a party, and it's how the fraternal euroatlantic links were kept strong. Those links are dead, in part because we allowed baboons to get power here in Europe as well.

 

[Helden]

But falsifying documents to hide he had an afair ?

He was found guilty of falsifying business records, don't worry.. he has 3 more far more serious criminal trials still coming up.

 

[spinup]

there was a whole lot more. 34 people inside of his inner circle either pled guilty or were found guilty during that whole russiagate shit.

34 is definitely is lucky number.
Do you have a link summing that up? Couldn't find one.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1796317728959295788

 

[Helden]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1796317728959295788

A banger for sure

 

[Kowboy On Sherdog]

 

[idrankyourbeer]

34 is definitely is lucky number.
Do you have a link summing that up? Couldn't find one.

were you searching outside of tucker carlson, catturd, or dc_draino's twitter account?

maybe try starting with george papadopolous, michael flynn, rick gates, paul manafort, michael cohen, roger stone and then finish off with the rest of them.

disingenuous hacks. put your diaper back on, get your donations in, and go own some libs.

 

[Ruprecht]

Does it even matter to Trump supporters if he's a convicted criminal? It's not like his character or business dealings were a closed book when he was elected the first time.

 

[Deorum]

My problem is growing up in the horrible dark that was communism in Eastern euro where we could not even speak about America, and listening to radio free Europe under the blanket with the parents, thus forming an overlap of an idealized land and America.

But then communism fell and then I grew up and ended up in America eventually and living for a while in the richest possible way America can be rich - Connecticut old money mayflowers. You'd never hear that America speak like today's America - it looks like baboons have taken over the white house and foreign policy and internal politics.

But as I said, my image of the place is either idealized or not representative. American old money is just like European old money, you couldn't tell them apart at a party, and it's how the fraternal euroatlantic links were kept strong. Those links are dead, in part because we allowed baboons to get power here in Europe as well.

You still have to come out to the Great American West one of these days, it's a very special place. The frontier carved out a distinctly American heritage and subculture but far more notably also comprises the country's most dramatic and beautiful landscapes. The forests are predominantly evergreen though, so you don't get the same degree of beautiful fall foilage. +1 to the Northeast on that front.

 

[BFoe]

Yea that's why immediately after getting in office, Biden overturned the Tiktok ban.

Perfect example of what I’m talking about.

Trump’s ban never took effect, because he did it by Executive Order claiming a “national emergency,” and the EO immediately faced legal challenges on the basis that Trump didn't demonstrate a sufficient risk to national security. What Biden did was shift our approach to an evidence-based approach, and recently Biden signed into law a bill that forces Tik Tok to either sell or be banned.

Biden wasn’t soft on Tik Tok, his administration was smarter about it. Incidentally, Trump flipped and changed his position on Tik Tok anyhow.

 

[Witchhunt]

First time he won the popular vote.

Ok, that’s funny..

 

[panamaican]

Trumps not just a politician, come on. Ex president, potential future president. He's not some Joe mayor from bumfuck Ohio that gets convicted for stealing office supplies.

That's doesn't have any effect on what he's said. Politicians have been trying to get their opponents convicted for crimes forever.

Trump's not different or unique in that sense. Where Trump is different is that most crooked politicians start lower on the totem pole so when their crimes catch up them, it derails their political careers from climbing higher. Trump started at the top of totem pole but nothing else about his situation is unique.

Here's a Wiki page about federal politicians convicted of felonies.

List of American federal politicians convicted of crimes - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's not common but it's not unusual either.

 

[idrankyourbeer]

I rarely venture into the War Room outside of cracking a joke here or there. It isn't worth it. At this point, everyone would rather argue than do anything else. Shit, reading stupid McGregor threads, watching nut huggers jump through hoops to justify idiocy and dealing with rampant fighter bashing in the Heavies seems more worthwhile. Yet, here I am.

you're out of your element donny.

 

[spinup]

were you searching outside of tucker carlson, catturd, or dc_draino's twitter account?

maybe try starting with george papadopolous, michael flynn, rick gates, paul manafort, michael cohen, roger stone and then finish off with the rest of them.

disingenuous hacks. put your diaper back on, get your donations in, and go own some libs.

Haha, yes. I got these ones ( plus Steve Bannon, Elliot Broidy, Duncan Hunter), and I was looking for an article listing all of them but it's hard to find.

Google is very confused when you enter thing like "trump + convictions" because there are so many different affairs and many are more recent than the 2016 campaign.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

That's doesn't have any effect on what he's said. Politicians have been trying to get their opponents convicted for crimes forever.

Trump's not different or unique in that sense. Where Trump is different is that most crooked politicians start lower on the totem pole so when their crimes catch up them, it derails their political careers from climbing higher. Trump started at the top of totem pole but nothing else about his situation is unique.

Here's a Wiki page about federal politicians convicted of felonies.

List of American federal politicians convicted of crimes - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It's not common but it's not unusual either.

Well him being the ex president and potential future president makes this a completely unique case. All those on that list don't come close. So it IS a unique situation.

 

[oldshadow]

How dare a criminal get convicted of a felony. It's just...not...fair.

What was the contributing crime that made these misdemeanors a felony.

The DA never gave a specific crime that did so. It was an end run to get past the statue of limitations and bump up the charges.

One ground for overturning this.


However I kind of hope the democrats just keep this going and find a way to do what they want to stop Trump by any means possible.

So we end up with an elected president in a prison or push this out and even if they lose declare Trump can't legally run at the last minute and his election illegal.

That should make things interesting.

Like they said in the 60s, " burn baby burn".

 

[Confucamus]

You guys really don't think there will be a fallout from this? Hillary got fucked when Comey announced he was re-opening the email server investigation.

I would be surprised if there was, honestly. There wasn't really any convincing evidence that the 2016 election was effected by Comey's announcement either. People were already pissed that she was getting off scot free from everything. That's not the case here.