Do you think older TJ samples should be reexamined?

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  1. Randlewand

    Randlewand Blue Belt

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    Cody may not be a pillar of philosophy and logic, but requesting TJ's old samples be re-examined for EPO is reasonable imo. What about the samples from the Barao fights? What happens if more positives turn up with more targeted testing? If so, I am ok with a lifetime ban.
     
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    phatron Black Belt

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    Where do you stop?

    You want all the fights to be cancelled for the whole year? They're all on gear
     
  3. YOLOGOGOPLATA

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    why not? I don't want an increase in his suspension, but I'd like to know if he had an advantage in the Garbrandt fights. If he did they should be changed to a NC IMO.
     
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    accolyte1022 Fighting Giants

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    First time hearing about this.
     
  5. Mr Fahrenheit

    Mr Fahrenheit Blue Belt

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    Totally reasonable. The testers are always playing catch-up. The best deterrent to the abuse of banned substances is the knowledge that it might not be enough to be able to beat a test today.
     
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    rorschach51 Johnny Walker Blue Belt

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    Same with Barao, I'm sure he was doing this shit for those fights now.
     
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  7. Randlewand

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    Hey man not everyone can pulse.
     
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    if they have the technology to test prior samples (and as long as those samples are guaranteed to not be contaminated), then they should test everything with modern day technology... I used to be a fan, but I'm starting to think a large portion of TJ's career is a lie. SMH.
     
  9. EVIL WAR GOD

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    He's doing two years, that's good enough.
     
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    Soul On Ice Arguably Never Lost

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    Only if he gets further penalties based on them
    If not it seems like a waste of time
     
  11. Croton

    Croton Green Belt

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    Is there a point? Would this increase his sentence if he pops for multiple fights?
    Are we only doing TJ's or are we doing everyone who has popped? Cause If you get busted all of a sudden it's highly likely you've juiced in the past too.
     
  12. rorschach51

    rorschach51 Johnny Walker Blue Belt

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    Same here bro ..... [​IMG]
     
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    SpedDaddyV GOAT

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    Yes

    Machida should sample the urine
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    BJ Penn will sample the blood
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    TJ didn't need EPO to put away Cody. The fights didn't go very long. He smoked Garbrandt pretty quickly both times.

    USADA needs to kick rocks IMO.
     
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    Not if it takes 2 TKO loses off both Barao & Cody's records, I think that's worth it. Effectively erases TJ's legacy, if he was juicing this shit for those fights change them to No Contests.
     
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  16. Randlewand

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    His old samples now have a reason for more scrutinized analysis. And yes, if he comes back with two more positives, he should be banned for life. He might well have fucked multiple fighters out of their livelihoods and ability to support their families.
     
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  17. Randlewand

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    I'm all for USADA going away. It's all about a level playing field (as much as possible).

    But I'm not ok with doped vs clean athletes being represented as fair fights.
     
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    They can easily check to see if his original A samples were tested for EPO. If they weren’t I think it’s a reasonable expectation for Cody to want the B samples tested.

    Whether they do it, or not is not up to me. But, yeah I think the situation. Especially previous public accusations of EPO use specifically. Warrant further investigation. I think it’s fair.

    If he was juiced for those fights. Cody doesn’t deserve those two losses, and should have them changed into NC.
     
  19. Fluffernutter

    Fluffernutter Red Belt

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    Yup.

    And GSP too.

    And Hendricks, too

    Oh, and Randy the natural Couture too.
     
  20. Soul On Ice

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    I'm not specifically talking about suspensions
    Taking away a W would be a penalty
     
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