Do you think Glover should be held accountable for giving Pereira a black belt? And is there anything the BJJ community can do about it?

[Objectively Correct]

You make WAY TOO MANY threads,
and they always fuckin' suck.

You need to be banned for a while.

And you're here in his thread crying about it like a child. Bad look.

 

[CasualBot]

And you're here in his thread crying about it like a child. Bad look.

"Bad Look"


Found another of JustMark's burners.

Fuckin' kook

 

[markg171]

Brendan Schaub has a black belt, that belt now has as much meaning as the WWE championship

If you want it to mean something again you need like some governing body to keep track of all the black belts. Each year have a bunch of 10 men tournaments where the bottom 5 finishers lose their black belt.

Schaub began training MMA in 2007 and didn't get his black belt until 2021. It's now 2024. What exactly is so absurd at having a BB after 17 years of training?

I get it's Schaub, but your neighbour Joe who works in IT and goes to the local BJJ class a few times a week would have a BB by that point too. And Schaub has definitely put in way more hours, with better instructors and partners, than them.

 

[NoSmilez]

Respectfully. I don't think Alex is black belt level. I don't think it matters as much since he doesn't teach.

 

[ferrisjso]

Going back many years its been common knowledge that BJJ belts and possibly other sorts of belts are handed out to people who achieve success in MMA who otherwise wouldn't deserve them. Its a status thingy. If the BJJ people decided that only people who deserve belts can get belts you'd need to do a very deep cleaning of past belt recepients.


You know like how in European aristocracy nobles and minor royalty usually get to become a knight because they got married. Yeah you didn't slay the dragon but it is what it is. Or "doctorates of letters" given to celebrities or notable people who didn't earn any sort of doctorate. This whole concept is pretty well established.

I don't like Pereira btw this is just obvious.

 

[NoSmilez]

Just for the record:

Poatan made his MMA debut in 2015, losing a thriller against a pretty good LHW. His ground game was notably raw but he had some decent defensive technique and used his strength well to initiate scrambles. He had two more MMA fights in a year, both of which he won against limited comp. He didn't fight MMA for another 4 years and looked like a monster on the international kickboxing scene, making several thousand dollars in the process.

I mention these facts because he has been training grappling for almost a decade now. He didn't just start in 2020, he's been doing this for quite some time, and it shows in his ability to defend himself on the ground. No, he is not an Oliveira or Ortega-level BJJ blackbelt and quite frankly I don't think he deserves a BB based off of what I've seen from him (or rather what I haven't seen) but Glover disagrees with me, for various reasons, and he's given him a black belt. So no, there's nothing the BJJ community can do about it.

Remember when Roger Gracie gave Rashad Evans a BJJ Black Belt? Yeah, the guy with like 30 UFC fights and literally zero sub attempts! It's not like this type of thing is unheard of.

It's Rolles. There was actually an uproar over that. The official statement was Rashad is a nogi black belt.

 

[gracie_barra_samurai]

Never question a brazilian phofessor on how he gives out his beltchs.

 

[Conan the K-9]

Respectfully. I don't think Alex is black belt level. I don't think it matters as much since he doesn't teach.

…Or compete in BJJ.
It’s more like a honorary degree in this case.

 

[StonedLemur]

I think JustMark should go down to Brazil or wherever Glover's school is, and try to hold him accountable. Roll with Alex while you're at it.

Let us know how that goes for ya.

He should be made to wear a Tshirt that says "Poatan sucks" lol.

 

[Clark Rogers]

He should be made to wear a Tshirt that says "Poatan sucks" lol.

Bro will be on the next jamahal hill podcast like "I got submitted and KTFO both at the same time, but Alex had to use some questionable tactics to get it done."

 

[StonedLemur]

Bro will be on the next jamahal hill podcast like "I got submitted and KTFO both at the same time, but Alex had to use some questionable tactics to get it done."

He'll say,

"Glover is a biased ref and he let Poatan break my arm....and when I got off the mat he let Poatan break my face"

And then Hill will pat his shoulder, and say ...
"I can definitely sympathize kid" lmao