Do you think an MMA fighter can ever get a 50-0 record?

[Daniel Henry]

I'm 48 and 0 in the streets. Any of yall sherdogs wanna catch these hands and give me my 50

 

[Necrocrawler]

Even if you fought cans it's still very hard to go 50-0. Like I said before there so many variables especially in MMA fighting.

If it was something that possible, than we would've seen it already.

Ik
Take satoko shinashi for example
From time to time she would lose to some can
Minowa was basically the same thing: he would face cans just for people see him subbing guys (i still remember when he broke that kickboxer leg that was 0-0). He would lose his last fights even against cans.
This is a tough Sport since we have the possibility of having a finish at any time.

I also had this weird fiction in my mind where a fighter gets “protected” by some shady people, who would secure he wouldnt lose, which would help that build.

In any other words… getting 50-0 with legit ways is virtually impossible

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Ik
Take satoko shinashi for example
From time to time she would lose to some can
Minowa was basically the same thing: he would face cans just for people see him subbing guys (i still remember when he broke that kickboxer leg that was 0-0). He would lose his last fights even against cans.
This is a tough Sport since we have the possibility of having a finish at any time.

I also had this weird fiction in my mind where a fighter gets “protected” by some shady people, who would secure he wouldnt lose, which would help that build.

In any other words… getting 50-0 with legit ways is virtually impossible

I agree totally. It's virtually impossible. But I'd love to be wrong though. It would be amazing to see someone go 50-0 and fight top competition. He'd be the GOAT no doubt.

 

[theincognito]

It could be done. Mokaev is for all intents and purposes 37-0 right now. Not much difference between amateur and regional pro. And only 24 years old. He could definitely win 13 more.

 

[El Fernas]

Not even boxers are reaching that point this days, those times are long gone, MMA never had the chance, once you reach certain level on the regionals you make the move to the UFC and then its a matter of time for you to lose, retire undefeated? So far we have seen 1, 29-0 but only 13 out of those were at the "highest level" of the sport, the only example remotely close to that is Jon Jones who has a DQ loss, he does have 24 UFC fights and most of them are actually high level fights, from there its almost like only Topuria is left undefeated at the highest level, but he is only 15-0, will he fight 15 more times to surpass Khabib record? Doubt it, will he WIN 15 more times? Not a chance, but keep in mind that Khabib only had 3 title defenses, 29-0 and only a few fights were at the highest level.

Short answer: No, not even boxers do that this days.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Not even boxers are reaching that point this days, those times are long gone, MMA never had the chance, once you reach certain level on the regionals you make the move to the UFC and then its a matter of time for you to lose, retire undefeated? So far we have seen 1, 29-0 but only 13 out of those were at the "highest level" of the sport, the only example remotely close to that is Jon Jones who has a DQ loss, he does have 24 UFC fights and most of them are actually high level fights, from there its almost like only Topuria is left undefeated at the highest level, but he is only 15-0, will he fight 15 more times to surpass Khabib record? Doubt it, will he WIN 15 more times? Not a chance, but keep in mind that Khabib only had 3 title defenses, 29-0 and only a few fights were at the highest level.

Short answer: No, not even boxers do that this days.

Thanks for breaking it down. Very well said.

If it's possible for a guy to go 50-0 fighting at least 20 top 5 fighters and without losing than that's the GOAT right there.

I really hope it happens, but I highly doubt it.

 

[Söze Aldo]

Just fight bums like they do in boxing

Or like Khabib did his first 16 fights.

 

[Fioretti]

Travis Fulton I knew he'd be brought up. But you are talking about win streak after he had losses early in his career. Same Igor who had a couple loses in his early part of his career. I'm talking about a complete unblemish record from the start all the way to 40 wins. That's never happen and most likely will never happen.

Having 40 wins in between losses is moot point. I'm sure he gained experienced along the way to garner that kind of streak and also have fought cans like you say, but that's not what I'm talking about when comes to a 50-0 record or 40-0 record.

I'm talking about guys who never lost at all.

Travis had streaks of 30+ wins three times throughout his career.

It's not very feasible in MMA unless you're fighting cans 1-3 times a week for a while.

 

[El Fernas]

Thanks for breaking it down. Very well said.

If it's possible for a guy to go 50-0 fighting at least 20 top 5 fighters and without losing than that's the GOAT right there.

I really hope it happens, but I highly doubt it.

MMA works fast when it comes to records, Bo Nickal is still undefeated, but his path to elite opponents will be pretty short from now on, 10-12 fights or something like that and he would be fighting for the title, from there is nothing but elite opponents, if he reaches 20-0 it would be like a miracle, specially cause you can see he still needs work, his striking is pretty ugly, RDR might actually stop his undefeated run, im sure outside of the UFC there must be some guy that has 10-15 fights undefeated, once that guy crosses over to the big league its a matter of time for them to lose unless you get another Khabib/Jones and even then, at the highest level your time at the top is very limited, Jones is running on expired time if you ask me, if he fights Aspinall he will lose, and i like Jones, that would be his 30th fight.

Chimaev, still undefeated, but he will be lucky if he reaches 20-0.

 

[HHJ]

It's pretty doubtful with the variables and the way the sport works. If you actually make it to the top of the sport, maybe champion at 20 - 0, I doubt you stick around to 50, if you never lose.

It's too much wear and tear on the body to fight at the highest levels, for that many fights.

Just the training alone would eventually take a toll.

You would eventually take the GSP route.

 

[HHJ]

Travis had streaks of 30+ wins three times throughout his career.

It's not very feasible in MMA unless you're fighting cans 1-3 times a week for a while.

I mean do we really count a bum fighting no hopers? Why should we waste time w that?

 

[HHJ]

Easily if they do it outside UFC or UFC starts switching to boxing matchmaking. You already see if UFC likes some fighters they can guarantee a win streak almost.

Only Anderson Silva has 16 wins in a row in UFC. So that's the real stat to break. Once you get top 10 level the fights start to slow down, UFC has to hype and build up fights, then you have to do longer training camps for harder opponents. The only guys who can get frequent fights are guys like Cowboy or Holland, so you have to be ranked in the middle.

Cowboy made it farther than Holland. He beat better competition and earned a title shot.

Your point stands though.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Not possible unless you go out of your way to avoid any sort of org with decent opponents, which includes feeder leagues like Fury FC, CFFC, LFA, CW, etc.

Closest you could get is some of the guys in the brazilian circuit, particularly from the Aspera team, but even they have moved on from padding records like that.

It just doesn't make any sense to do that since you already get a bunch of opportunities within your first 10 fights if you're undefeated and getting finishes, you'd have to forego any aspirations of fighting at a high level to accomplish the 50-0 goal, let alone anything beyond that.

You'd end up blacklisted from how many times you'd turn down orgs and how shitty your resume would be lol.

It's still somewhat alive and well lol

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Though I would imagine these guys will try and make the UFC jump well before they get to 50-0

 

[HHJ]

Most of the guys who have a lot of fights outside the UFC wind up not having great careers in the UFC. Esp if they are young. Guys like Melvin gulliard or Stefan struve were like 20 something yrs old and already had 20 something fights before joining the UFC. That is kinda ridiculous.

 

[Fioretti]

I mean do we really count a bum fighting no hopers? Why should we waste time w that?

It's really the only way for it to be possible in MMA. Just like the first 60% or so of Khabibi's career.

 

[Neck&Neck]

El Toppydor and Bo Nickals

 

[HHJ]

It's really the only way for it to be possible in MMA. Just like the first 60% or so of Khabibi's career.

4 years on the regionals isn't 60 pct of his career.

Look at Conor's first 10 - 15 opponents and tell me how different it is.

Khabib only stands out because he never lost and retired early. Other wise it really isn't standing out as being an abnormal career start.

 

[El Fernas]

El Toppydor and Bo Nickals

Both wont reach 20-0, guaranteed.

 

[Neck&Neck]

Dakota Ditcheva

 

[Pierced7681]

Jon Jones is what, 28-1-1? If he hadn’t had that dq loss to Matt Hammill and the drug testing issues he probably could’ve continued to fight and win at 205 as long as he wanted to. Or maybe it was the steroids that made him so good? Who knows.